If this season continues on this path do we go full rebuild in the offseason?

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If this season ends like last season do you support a full rebuild?


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Dubi Doo

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I'm over this core. I believe the stank runs too deep. Of course, there's time to turn it around, and if that happens, then great! Prove me wrong! Feed me crow! I don't think my appetite is going to be filled, though.

It's becoming more and more apparent that the stank has rubbed off on a bunch of our leadership core. Theyre too nonchalant in key moments of games, they still rely too much on skill, and theyre approaching damage beyond repair in this 'culture'.

If this year goes like last year, then Im down for a complete rebuild. Dahlin, Cozens, Tuch, etc...they can bring back quite the haul. They'll go onto greener pastures, and excell in their new roles, but it aint happening here.

We desperately need a new GM and new leadership in the lockerroom. We have assets teams value, and we have young players who can still be saved from this mess.

I'd be fine with keeping Ruff around to implement a system and have these boys playing the right way. Everything else, though? Peace.

I dont have much trust in Pegula making a smart GM hire, but what we know with what we have now just aint cutting it, so the unknown is more enticing.
 

Fjordy

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No and we don't need it. The problem is not the players, we have good players, mostly all of them are still young, a smart GM can build a good team with these players with the addition of quality coaches and 3-4 good players (not necessarily elite or expensive), just the right parts that Adams hasn't taken care of this years.
 
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Dreakon13

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Adams bet on this group. When I say this group, I mean Thompson, Cozens, Dahlin, Power, Samuelsson... the kids who got their big deals and didn't get moved out. Cap space is reserved to re-sign Peterka, Quinn, maybe Byram, maybe Greenway, maybe Tuch, maybe Benson, etc. He bet on all these guys staying at or around 22-23 form or improving. He knew they lacked speed, physicality and intensity and tried to address that via the bottom 6. He knew they lacked structure and tried to address that with Ruff.

It's all been a big swing. If that plan fails, and it's looking more likely than not, I couldn't say if they need to rebuild or not. The hole has just gotten too deep and too complicated.

What I can say is it's time to finally bring in a GM and people around them with experience and a track record of success. If they do that, as a fan I'll go along with their plan. If they don't, rebuild or not I guess it doesn't really matter what they do since it probably won't work.
 
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SabresFan26

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No we fire Kevyn Adams and let someone come in and build a team the right way. Not just collecting talent, it's about building a team. Someone with experience. Get rid of Adams, Forton, and any other proxies who are unqualified (Appert, Wilford, and Bales).
 

57special

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Tearing down a team that is rebuilding is not the way to go. Something is off in BUF, for sure, but i think it's more about the off ice personnel. I was against the Ruff hire, thought the Skinner buyout was stupid and reactionary(as was the original contract awarded to him)... KA is not impressing me.

BUF has enough "talent", but need to build a team culture. Rewarding tough, defensive, resilient play needs to be part of it, but it starts with competence in management. I'm not sure that it is there, right now.

I think the NHL is weak right now. There is no reason that the Sabres can't get into the playoffs right now, and even win a round, if they can avoid playing FLA.

If the Sabres are going to do any "tearing down", it needs to be in the coaching or GM ranks. I mean, how much can it hurt the on ice product? If anything, it might briefly give them a kick in the ass, or some hope, but just firing people(or players) without a plan will get them nowhere.
 
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Fjordy

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Tearing down a team that is rebuilding is not the way to go. Something is off in BUF, for sure, but i think it's more about the off ice personnel. I was against the Ruff hire, thought the Skinner buyout was stupid and reactionary(as was the original contract awarded to him)... KA is not impressing me.

BUF has enough "talent", but need to build a team culture. Rewarding tough, defensive, resilient play needs to be part of it, but it starts with competence in management. I'm not sure that it is there, right now.

I think the NHL is weak right now. There is no reason that the Sabres can't get into the playoffs right now, and even win a round, if they can avoid playing FLA.

If the Sabres are going to do any "tearing down", it needs to be in the coaching or GM ranks. I mean, how much can it hurt the on ice product? If anything, it might briefly give them a kick in the ass, or some hope, but just firing people(or players) without a plan will get them nowhere.
Even a non-Buffalo fan understands this. Our GM is incompetent, our coach doesn't seem to be allowed to bring his own people to the coaching staff, our special teams are some of the worst in the league, and our roster is full of holes and unbalance, and that's not the players' fault.

We don’t need another (eternal) rebuilding or even any serious re-equipment.
 

OkimLom

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I lean towards a re-tooling of sorts, with cutting some financial fat off the roster, unless they take a pay cut for the FA's-to be, and accept a demotion in their role on the roster. But if a new GM decides this roster needs a rebuild, then so be it. I don't think the current roster has the Hockey-DNA I want out of them that will lead them to be successful, or they haven't shown it yet.

A rebuild isn't my 1st option, but I'm not closed-off from accepting one if they would want one.
 

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