Post-Game Talk: Slip slippin' away Jets get clobbered

[robertocarlos]

I have a feeling Vegas is going to have a rough night at the hands of the 3rd line tomorrow night.

The players have instructions to stay out of the casinos.

 

[SensibleGuy]

I have a feeling Vegas is going to have a rough night at the hands of the 3rd line tomorrow night.

I had a feeling the Jets were gonna come out and lay a beat-down on the Avs last night.


...yeah...

 

[Evil Little]

Are the warnings from fancystats beginning to mean anything yet?

About as much as Paul Postma's superstardom.

But congrats on your sample size of one game to finally have your point proven.

 

[Channelcat]

Well, the stats and "watching hockey" told the same story this year.

 

[leer2006]

and that's the ol' million dollar question.

which parts are not performing and why? how does one make the players accountable? a late-season firing rarely solves any problems. do you let them figure it out on their own?

Unless your the Pittsburgh Penguins. Then you win the cup.

 

[leer2006]

Myers is a enigma wrapped up in a riddle , have you ever seen a player that can look so good one shift and then soooooooooo bad the next ?

Wheeler?

 

[Jack722]

I am always confused by those kinds of posts. What is the actual point? That playing bad is good because bad teams have won?

No one ever references the giant list of teams that played bad and then crashed out of the playoffs, heh.

 

[Atoyot]

Bag skate them until they put in an effort.

 

[Mbraunm]

Bag skate them until they put in an effort.

Yes, I agree. Just as important, Is there a way that Maurice can bag skate himself?

 

[Neuf]

I think Maurice needs to be a little more involved. He's a player's friend type of coach so I don't think they have tuned him out. Just needs to be a little tougher on them.

Like time on ice decisions, or even linemates.

The Avs had the hottest line in the NHL, started losing, separated all of them onto different lines, and then kicked the crap out of the Jets .

 

[AKAChip]

About as much as Paul Postma's superstardom.

But congrats on your sample size of one game to finally have your point proven.

One game lol

 

[ffh]

One game lol

did the eye test over the same 60 games reach a different conclusion. cause that's what he was suggesting.

 

[raideralex99]

I think Maurice needs to be a little more involved. He's a player's friend type of coach so I don't think they have tuned him out. Just needs to be a little tougher on them.

Like time on ice decisions, or even linemates.

The Avs had the hottest line in the NHL, started losing, separated all of them onto different lines, and then kicked the crap out of the Jets .

According to former players they say Maurice runs intense practices.

As for the Avs breaking up the big line ... if you listened to the interview they broke up that line so they played defense first and then waited for their scoring chances.

This is the biggest problem right now ... team defense The big line cheats, D jumps up to quick ... they got offence offence on the brain.

 

[AlphaLackey]

I am always confused by those kinds of posts. What is the actual point? That playing bad is good because bad teams have won?

The idea is to point out that being the best team in the league is a very small advantage in a high variance event such as a single elimination tournament.

Once you get to the dance anything can happen, but...

I would rather be a team playing good going into the playoffs with a 1 in 16 chance of winning it all ….over a team that is playing like crap that limps into the playoffs only because their record in the first half of the season saved them.

There is something to be said about the teams that show that they're firing on all cylinders. If last night's game came at game 82, I'd be a LOT more worried than I am now. There's still a lot of time and still the trade deadline to come and go.

 

[Jack722]

About as much as Paul Postma's superstardom.

But congrats on your sample size of one game to finally have your point proven.

Careful, the idea of "sample sizes" is getting dangerously fancy.

 

[raideralex99]

Maybe this ass kicking is what the Jets needed to get them going.
Remember the Flames were a .500 team when the Pens beat them 9-1 in Calgary even though they lost the next game in OT they went on a tear after that and never looked back.

 

[Channelcat]

I didn't even think the Avs looked good last night.

 

[Jets2point0]

Based on the post game presser, I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a rift between Maurice and Wheeler, especially given Wheelers play and effort the last few weeks.

Unfortunately, our captain has responded by sulking on and off the ice. Give the C to someone who can manage effort expectations over the course of an entire season

 

[GNP]

We're really missing Ehler's speed, and puck possession in the offensive zone, and his zone entries, and also Buff in the defensive zone.

It's not the entire reason why we lost, but we are missing them bigtime. The Jet's need to pull up their socks and play with some intensity, and "stop" taking penalties.

 

[Farmboy Patty]

here's a voice of reason.
in the past 20something years, how often have Stanley Cup champions looked like Stanley Cup champions during the regular season?
since 1985-86 (33 years?) only 8 of the trophy winners won the cup. i.e. 24% chance. Odds of reaching the Cup finals and winning the trophy? not much better. 33%. so having the best record increases your odds of winning the Cup, but it assures nothing.
in the past 10 seasons:

2008–09	San Jose Sharks	117	Lost Conference Quarterfinals (ANA)
2009–10	Washington Capitals	121	Lost Conference Quarterfinals (MTL)
2010–11	Vancouver Canucks	117	Lost Stanley Cup Finals (BOS)
2011–12	Vancouver Canucks	111	Lost Conference Quarterfinals (LAK)
2012–13	Chicago Blackhawks	77[nb 3]	Won Stanley Cup (BOS)
2013–14	Boston Bruins	117	Lost Second Round (MTL)
2014–15	New York Rangers	113	Lost Conference Finals (TBL)
2015–16	Washington Capitals	120	Lost Second Round (PIT)
2016–17	Washington Capitals	118	Lost Second Round (PIT)
2017–18	Nashville Predators	117	Lost Second Round (WPG)

[TBODY] [/TBODY]

It would be interesting to see the results if you widened the scope to a "top-5" team instead of the no 1 team. I'd guess that the winner is more often than not a top 5 team.

 

[surixon]

Anyone know when the team is practicing today as I am curious to see what if any changes have been incorporated.

 

[thegr8one66]

I have a feeling Vegas is going to have a rough night at the hands of the 3rd line tomorrow night.

I don't think Ryan Reaves is afraid of our 3rd line........

 

[raideralex99]

We're really missing Ehler's speed, and puck possession in the offensive zone, and his zone entries, and also Buff in the defensive zone.

It's not the entire reason why we lost, but we are missing them bigtime. The Jet's need to pull up their socks and play with some intensity, and "stop" taking penalties.

That's the key intensity ... playoff hockey.

 

[Hobble]

The players have instructions to stay out of the casinos.

Maurice should ground them all until they start playing up to their level.

 

[Channelcat]

We're really missing Ehler's speed, and puck possession in the offensive zone, and his zone entries, and also Buff in the defensive zone.

It's not the entire reason why we lost, but we are missing them bigtime. The Jet's need to pull up their socks and play with some intensity, and "stop" taking penalties.

Ehlers might be our only good zone entry guy. With so many teams standing at the blue line, you need to be shifty and fast to gain the line. Wheeler and Morrissey are ok at it, but Ehlers is better.