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Slafkovski reminds me of Pulju

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Kudo Shinichi said:
I'm pretty sure most habs fans are disappointed with the production considering where he was picked. However, at the same, it's not like the players drafted after him are doing great.

If you look at the other top 5 picks:
Nemec still hasn't made the nhl in his d+2 year.
Cooley has 3 even-strength points in 18 nhl games.
Wright is being bounced between the ahl and nhl, and has not produced well in the nhl.
Gauthier is still in the ncaa and is producing barely above ppg.

None of them are doing what you would've typically expected from a 1st overall pick in their d+2 year.
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I’m not dunking on the Habs for selecting him first overall, I’m just talking about his performance overall as a first overall draft pick or player in general.

What the players do that were drafted after him has nothing to do with how I view him as a player, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th overall could all be the second coming of Nail Yakupov and that still wouldn’t ease my concerns with him.

Big player with a great tool set, I hope he becomes something special. Would never wish downfall on a 19 year old kid just trying to live out his dream for the sake of being right, but I just think it’s dishonest for Habs fans to pretend this is all part of the plan and par for the course.
 
Craft Beer Maven said:
It must be devastating to realize that with the #1 player in the entire draft, your hometown heroes selected a low-IQ middle six winger in Slafkofsky, over a burgeoning star in Cooley.
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I’m fine with it actually, because you’re clearly a stat watcher who doesn’t watch games.

cave troll said:
That was only one game. Dach got injured in 2nd game, 1st period.
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And pre season as well.
 
I was talking about competitve games. Not about some preseason friendlies with half rosters consisting of AHL players and played at 50%.
 
It's not unreasonable for Montreal fans to want to give Slafkosky more time.

I'm a big proponent of people learning in different ways. Sometimes it's the topic, sometimes it's the teacher.

There's a reason, for example, Jack Campbell looked like a potential starter after being traded to LA. The further he got from Dusty Imoo, the more his focus and confidence left.

Other times, teams have a "curriculum." LA often slow boils their players, so someone like Byfield looks questionable at first. Other teams, like Anaheim, know when to apropriately challenge a player like Carlsson.

I haven't watched enough of Slafkosky to form my own opinion, but anyone who has, good or bad, would best be flexible. He still has a long road ahead with the demands of a first overall pick.
 
Number 57 said:
Guys how many points Lafreniere, Byfield and Stutzle had in their first 57 games? Calm the F down
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Number 57 said:
Guys how many points Lafreniere, Byfield and Stutzle had in their first 57 games? Calm the F down
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Using Laf as an example doesn't exactly help your point lol. Excluding Slaf, he's probably the worst #1 pick since Yakupov. Also Stutzle !? LOL Stutzle was 100x better than what Slaf is. How on earth are you trying to compare those guys at all ?
 
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normally young players that are learning have parts of their game that at least hint to their potential and Slaf has none of that. is he going to all of a sudden learn to skate faster?, process the the game faster? develop a better scoring instinct?
If I were the habs I would trade him now while his value is maybe a 2nd
 
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Craft Beer Maven said:
It must be devastating to realize that with the #1 player in the entire draft, your hometown heroes selected a low-IQ middle six winger in Slafkofsky, over a burgeoning star in Cooley.
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If you think missing out on a player like Cooley is devastating you're not very familiar with habs fans. We've been missing out on star players for 30 years. Logan Cooley is small potatoes and wouldn't change the trajectory of this sorry franchise.

And when you look at the current and past front offices, what else do you expect but failure. A bunch of old boys from Quebec.
 
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nbwingsfan said:
Slav has 1pt on the PP because he’s horrible offensively so far.

Giving him 2 extra mins is not going to make his PP production go up by like 800% lol.
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What a terrible argument.
Playing 4 min with Suzuki and Caufield on the top pp would help his point production way more than playing 2 min on the 2nd unit with Gallagher and Pearson.

Math is clearly not something you're good at if you think it would require an 800% points increase for Slaf to come close to Cooley's numbers.

Craft Beer Maven said:
must be devastating to realize that with the #1 player in the entire draft, your hometown heroes selected a low-IQ middle six winger in Slafkofsky, over a burgeoning star in Cooley.
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There must be a ton of burgeoning stars in the NHL if being on pace for 13 EV points in 82 games makes you one.
 
He does have a similar vibe ngl. Idc tho we don't need a saviour, just need guys to chip in opportunistically.
 
Kudo Shinichi said:
What a terrible argument.
Playing 4 min with Suzuki and Caufield on the top pp would help his point production way more than playing 2 min on the 2nd unit with Gallagher and Pearson.

Math is clearly not something you're good at if you think it would require an 800% points increase for Slaf to come close to Cooley's numbers.
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At the same time, putting him 4 mins with Suzuki and Caufield on PP could drop Suzuki and Caufield's numbers.You never thought about that?
Nobody in Habs roster was switched between lines and positions like Newhook and kid still delivers.
How come Slaf can't?
Sla has all the tools to succeed and yet he's underperforming big time. He needs to get his shit together and start to act like a 1OA player brought here to do great stuff. It's him who needs to take shots, it's him who needs to make decisive plays, it's him who needs to rush the net. This is the mentality he needs to have to succeed and he needs to clear his head. Kid is shy on the ice. It can be seen form Mars.
TBH, team management and coaches don't help him with there "all is good, don't worry, it just takes time" mentality.
 
AvroArrow said:
Using Laf as an example doesn't exactly help your point lol. Excluding Slaf, he's probably the worst #1 pick since Yakupov. Also Stutzle !? LOL Stutzle was 100x better than what Slaf is. How on earth are you trying to compare those guys at all ?
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Since you completely missed the point of his post. I will explain for you....

It is foolish to judge a kid at 19 and after 57 games in the league. Its not about comparing those players to Slaf its pointing out that kids get better as they age and get more experience in the league.
 
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General Fanager said:
Since you completely missed the point of his post. I will explain for you....

It is foolish to judge a kid at 19 and after 57 games in the league. Its not about comparing those players to Slaf its pointing out that kids get better as they age and get more experience in the league.
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A ton of those young players that get better have obvious skills to start with. Slaf has........size?
IMO the top of this draft was crap, having to pick from Wright or Slaf is horror bad for options.
Yak, Pulj etc all at least had some skills that warranted the high pick.
 
Deadly Dogma said:
A ton of those young players that get better have obvious skills to start with. Slaf has........size?
IMO the top of this draft was crap, having to pick from Wright or Slaf is horror bad for options.
Yak, Pulj etc all at least had some skills that warranted the high pick.
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He obviously has/had the skill needed to be a top end pick in the draft or he wouldnt have been ranked at #1. Whether he turns out to be a top line winger remains to be seen. I think most Habs fans point is that its silly to have a thread slamming the kid when he is 19 and has 57 games experience. we are at least 2 years away from any kind of clarity one way or another.....
 
General Fanager said:
He obviously has/had the skill needed to be a top end pick in the draft or he wouldnt have been ranked at #1. Whether he turns out to be a top line winger remains to be seen. I think most Habs fans point is that its silly to have a thread slamming the kid when he is 19 and has 57 games experience.
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I dunno, I watched Slaf and Wright pre draft and always felt like I was missing what everyone else seemed to be seeing.
 
General Fanager said:
Since you completely missed the point of his post. I will explain for you....

It is foolish to judge a kid at 19 and after 57 games in the league. Its not about comparing those players to Slaf its pointing out that kids get better as they age and get more experience in the league.
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I think you might've missed the part where the other #1 picks were lighting the league on fire, and the ones that weren't ? Well they were busts.
 
cave troll said:
At the same time, putting him 4 mins with Suzuki and Caufield on PP could drop Suzuki and Caufield's numbers.You never thought about that?
Nobody in Habs roster was switched between lines and positions like Newhook and kid still delivers.
How come Slaf can't?
Sla has all the tools to succeed and yet he's underperforming big time. He needs to get his shit together and start to act like a 1OA player brought here to do great stuff. It's him who needs to take shots, it's him who needs to make decisive plays, it's him who needs to rush the net. This is the mentality he needs to have to succeed and he needs to clear his head. Kid is shy on the ice. It can be seen form Mars.
TBH, team management and coaches don't help him with there "all is good, don't worry, it just takes time" mentality.
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Your points have nothing to do with what I was discussing.
 
I really think the organization needs to do what is best for him and get him a ton of minutes in the AHL or else I don't think you're going to get the best version of the player.
 
Kudo Shinichi said:
Your points have nothing to do with what I was discussing.
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You were saying that Slaf would have more points if he played 4 mins PP per game with Suzuki and CC.
That is just an assumption, not a certainity.
Slafkosky has only 3 PP points in 59 games.
Tanner Pearson has 2 in 19 games. 3rd escaped him for 1 second last night.
 
cave troll said:
You were saying that Slaf would have more points if he played 4 mins PP per game with Suzuki and CC.
That is just an assumption, not a certainity.
Slafkosky has only 3 PP points in 59 games.
Tanner Pearson has 2 in 19 games. 3rd escaped him for 1 second last night.
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did you delete ur comment to me or something?
 
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