Post-Game Talk: Skinner with another spectacular Game 4 win

[Bobieque]

I did a full packer. Louisiana pellet grill from Costco a few years ago, I'm still learning, the "point" is more forgiving because of the fat content, the flat I find tough to get right.

Took it off this morning and I'm ok with it, but the flat seems like it was dryer. The pork shoulder is perfect, much more forgiving.

I've found for me that injecting prior is the biggest impact on how it turns out. I used to just have beef both, a bit of Worchester, and some bourbon but inject the hell out of it, especially the flat.

I now got some type of beef competition injection I bought at a specialty store, but the above works just as well.

Hope this helps! Congrats on the Pork, that can sometimes be just as tricky!

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

Meh. Not really. The stats had Skinner over him, and that last game he was beat several times but a post and his d bailed him out.

Bob was the better goalie in game 7. There wasn’t an inch out there and Skinner let in a softer goal late in the game and Bob didn’t.

I’m not someone who blames Skinner but he wasn’t the better goalie imo.

Dominated Dallas though that’s for sure.

 

[jesusbuiltmyhotrod]

Bob was the better goalie in game 7. There wasn’t an inch out there and Skinner let in a softer goal late in the game and Bob didn’t.

I’m not someone who blames Skinner but he wasn’t the better goalie imo.

Dominated Dallas though that’s for sure.

That Reinhardt goal was very weak and should have been stopped… but we scored 1 goal. Hard to win scoring 1

 

[Drivesaitl]

HDCF 20-19 for Edmonton. Stu was the difference, as was the fact we have game breakers on offense and they have one. Need a better effort in G4.

With due respect the Oilers finishing was the difference. Two ways to look at it.

The Oilers had sublime finish on most of their goals and they were on the rush, and counter to play. While Dallas in stints controls possession they were a fantastic disaster for giving up odd man rushes. Did it happen a dozen times yesterday. Dallas got caught so many times because of trying to come from behind. Indeed that scoring of first and 2nd and goals is what creates that dynamic. By the time Dallas settled into the game and mounted anything at all they were already down 2-0. Dallas spent most of the game chasing the game and abandoning their structure and game. Do that against the Oilers and its euthanasia time.

Ott is having to contend with all of McD, Drai, Nuge, Kane, Hyman, Booch etc and he's having to do it in outnumbered situations where so many plays are available and against players that are all world in the playoffs. You cannot give the Oilers these kinds of scoring chances and survive. The Dallas Stars players were trading chances with the Oilers and Dallas not finishing a thing. Thats a bad gambit for Dallas. Feeds right into Oilers hands.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Meh. Not really. The stats had Skinner over him, and that last game he was beat several times but a post and his d bailed him out.

It your entire ethos is just to be a nonsense contrarian, do it on twitter. This is getting f***ing dumb.

Stuart Skinner has been excellent the last 2 games, and very good in 4 of his last 5, but he's NOT above criticism. People have lost trust in him because his play was completely substandard for the better part of an entire season.

I do not care if you are personal friends with Stu or Stu Fam, that's irrelevant to anything. We do not OWE Stuart Skinner trust and praise.

THIS IS DIFFERENT that those on here who openly cheer for and pretend that McDavid is some how declining, while he continues to be the best play on the entire planet.

Get over yourself.

 

[Faelko]

That Reinhardt goal was very weak and should have been stopped… but we scored 1 goal. Hard to win scoring 1

If someone would’ve told me at the beginning of the year that the Oilers would be in game 7 of the SCF and only allow 2 goals, I’d take that every time.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

If someone would’ve told me at the beginning of the year that the Oilers would be in game 7 of the SCF and only allow 2 goals, I’d take that every time.

It's going to be game 4 of the WCF with the Oilers looking like an absolute wagon, even compared to last year. We don't need to re-litigate last year's final.

 

[1981 Oilers]

I did a full packer. Louisiana pellet grill from Costco a few years ago, I'm still learning, the "point" is more forgiving because of the fat content, the flat I find tough to get right.

Took it off this morning and I'm ok with it, but the flat seems like it was dryer. The pork shoulder is perfect, much more forgiving.

I go on Youtube for lots of info. They say to keep the fat trim to 1/4" and get the cuts on the point and flat. I wanna try one. Ive been doing ribs and salmon

 

[Section337]

Feel like Dallas played a game like we saw the Oilers play so many times during the season, especially in the 2nd period. Lots of zone play, lots of shots, "metrics" saying they had all types of high danger chances but got counter-attacked to death. Meanwhile their opponents kept a lot of stuff to the outside, blocked shots, clogged up the danger zone, made it hard to get clean passes, made it harder to get clear shots, got super solid goaltending and then counter-attacked the other team to death.

Nice to be on this side of a 6-1, particularly in playoffs, in this scenario.

 

[soothsayer]

I think that was the best game of Skinner's career. He looked like a completely different goalie. I honestly can't totally believe it. And don't tell me I told you so because he's never looked like that in the NHL, even during his big games against Dallas last year.

He won't sustain that level of play consistently--who could but the elite of the elite goaltenders? But if he plays 75-80% of that level, the Oilers are going to win the cup.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Since the 2021-2022 Hyman has 35 goals in the playoffs. Since 2021-2022, Marner, Matthews and Nylander have combined for 37 goals total.

This is the perfect springboard for my next post. That it takes balls to score goals in playoffs. Hyman has no lack of Balls. He's leading the entire playoffs in hits. Like I just said neither does Drai, McD, Nuge, Kane, Booch, etc. The Oilers have quietly through the years loaded the shopping cart with players that will go to the wall when hockey punishment is at its most extreme.

Conversely playoff jokes like Nylon, Matthews and Marnie will skate by the net when rebounds could be there. They don't want to stand around and take punishment. Theyr'e either unwilling or adverse to punishment. Even Rantanen yesterday. A few crosschecks later and Rants was unwilling to get in goal scoring areas at times. Was increasingly peripheral.

All one has to do to watch the contrast in these teams is note whether they are confident or not. Dallas I mentioned approach our blueline with trepidation. Reluctant to even take a hit to make a play. So that the Stars so often are stymied around blueline, or go offside, even on the PP because they are playing timid in some way. Like they're nervous. You see no such nerves in the Oilers about gaining zone or making plays, they're doing it for fun and profit. When the Oilers get a chance its pure sex to watch. Lethal precision. Plays so good the opponent bench hangs their head. Even when not scoring Oilers making plays so stupendous our opponents get nerves just watching it.

One sequence yesterday. Heiskanen, one of the best D in the world makes an out pass up the middle because it was there. Booch, a vastly underrated D reads the play, knew what would happen, and perfectly intercepts the pass like he's stealing candy. Then Booch sidesteps a Dallas player to walk right in slot and get a free chance on net firing a howitzer for scoring range. He didn't score but Heiskanen looked at that and just nodded his head. The message being is you're a great player making great plays.

Booch is one of the most unsung D in the league.

 

[fireantz]

McD, Hyman, and Nuge and many others say hi.

Maybe I don't get it but Stu just doing what a goalie is supposed to do. Make stops against a club that can't score any goals to save their lives. Dallas offense is lost in space.

The impressive thing in these games is the Oilers offense torching OTT everytime out. They're destroying him so far. In a 6-1 game I credit our offense and scoring quite a lot.

Skinner gets too much blame for losses and too much credit tonite! Six guys keeping the puck out of our net each shift and counterpunching with six puck moving d and twelve forwards making life hell in the oppositions zone. Don’t see Dallas with an answer.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Feel like Dallas played a game like we saw the Oilers play so many times during the season, especially in the 2nd period. Lots of zone play, lots of shots, "metrics" saying they had all types of high danger chances but got counter-attacked to death. Meanwhile their opponents kept a lot of stuff to the outside, blocked shots, clogged up the danger zone, made it hard to get clean passes, made it harder to get clear shots, got super solid goaltending and then counter-attacked the other team to death.

Nice to be on this side of a 6-1, particularly in playoffs, in this scenario.

It really is the difference in how well this team plays overall and defends. The despite struggles and even giveaways they fight to keep things out of the middle and make life simpler on Stu (who was excellent) and just out will their opponents.

They've been really great on this run, it's fun to watch.

People, though, will have to understand a team won't (and can't frankly) play this way for 82 games in a season.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

Skinner gets too much blame for losses and too much credit tonite! Six guys keeping the puck out of our net each shift and counterpunching with six puck moving d and twelve forwards making life hell in the oppositions zone. Don’t see Dallas with an answer.

Deboar will complain louder about that one missed call, because that's why they gave up 6, one missed call lol.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Couple interesting quotes from here:

“We’ve got to just win the next one,” forward Mikko Rantanen said. “That’s the mentality now. Get some rest. Reset. We should have a little bit longer rest since it was afternoon game"

“You’re without your No. 1 center,” DeBoer said. “I give our guys credit. They didn’t mail it in. They showed up and worked.”

Lot of focus there on rest and on just showing up. Dallas went through two seven game series against very good teams just to get here. I wonder if that is starting to catch up to them.

Dallas went 6 against Winnipeg. Its like this has become an internet meme, saying its 7. Not dumping on you its just funny that everybody says it went 7. It never did.

Being "tired" is never an excuse to me in playoffs. With adrenaline and the excitement theres lots of time to be "tired'' in offseason. Its about who wants it more and who will go to war to take it. Funny thing with Rantanen is he's not even in the topten of best players so far in this series. So he should probably shut up.

Lol "we're without our #1 Center" as if Hintz in this series had even been one. The guy has one dubious assist in his last 6 playoff games. he ain't doing squat. Dallas wasn't different with him in the lineup.

That said the short break between games was a bit nuts. The teams had just played two playoff games in 40hrs. Thats a lot. This ain't baseball or basketball lol.

 

[PositiveCashFlow]

It's going to be game 4 of the WCF with the Oilers looking like an absolute wagon, even compared to last year. We don't need to re-litigate last year's final.

without our #1D who's almost ready to come back

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

without our #1D who's almost ready to come back

??? The team's number 1 Defenseman has be in the line up the entire time. Like since game 1 against LA. He's also been the best defenseman in the entire playoffs by a WIDE margin.

His name is Evan Bouchard, Evan Bouchard is the team's #1D.

 

[mcdingdong]

What a time to be alive. Great win, opportunistic scoring and a very solid goaltending performance. Our 5v5 play was a definite tick down from what it has been the last few games but Stu had a good outing. Nuge was great, Hyman was great. Bouch had a whale of a game. A few passengers in the bottom 6 I thought.

It's funny to read that Skinner wasn't actually that good yesterday - Dallas just can't finish and Edmonton can. Dallas finished chances 10x better than us all season lmao. That's how brutal Skinner was all year, folks have a huge axe to grind with him and now absolutely refuse to acknowledge anything positive he does.
"he just did what a goalie is supposed to do"
"Dallas just can't finish"
"Remember that weak one in G7 of the Finals last year?"

He hasn't had a good season at all but holy hell people. We're up a game in the WCF and our best (or second best) 2 way D could be back soon.

Remember when Talbot was superhuman for a year and then had kids? Wonder if the same thing has happened here. Talbot went on to recover pretty nicely after a down season. He did it elsewhere of course, as is tradition after getting run out of Edmonton. We have some pretty mean fans sometimes haha. I for one am just gonna be happy and see where this run takes us, and hope Skinner and/or our leaky PK doesn't blow it all up.

 

[Drivesaitl]

Skinner gets too much blame for losses and too much credit tonite! Six guys keeping the puck out of our net each shift and counterpunching with six puck moving d and twelve forwards making life hell in the oppositions zone. Don’t see Dallas with an answer.

The Oilers executed a legend counter game again last night. It was some perfection. So many of our goals were backbreakers. But nothing defines the game more than Duchene failing to cash and then the Oilers going up ice and delivering another dagger. How demoralizing.

Players like Duchene are a joke to playoff hockey. He's -13 and has 1 goal all playoffs. he's a donkey. He's like the opposite of Corey Perry, no balls.

Indeed on that at end of game 1 Perry, always the gameplayer does the hiding head turtle gesture twice for effect. because Bishel did turtle, totally turtled and obviously not to draw a call as it was end of game. The basic guy world message there is "I Have balls and you don't. Our team plays with balls and you don't"

The Dallas fans were really angry about that. But the things one gets most angry about are true.

 

[McShogun99]

I never understood why media folks and even some Oiler fans were polishing Rantanen so much. He's been a ghost most of the time after his trade from Colorado outside of like 3-4 playoff games, some folks were acting as if he's McDrai level, it was crazy. Very good player of course who can still show up in a big way in this series but his play is highly inconsistent.

Didn't he have something like 14 points in a 4 game stretch from game 5 against Colorado to game 1 against Winnipeg. Take those away and he has 6 points in 12 games.

 

[Austerlitz]

Dallas went 6 against Winnipeg. Its like this has become an internet meme, saying its 7. Not dumping on you its just funny that everybody says it went 7. It never did.

You're right, of course. I don't know why, that just seemed like a seven game series.

 

[Drivesaitl]

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It's funny to read that Skinner wasn't actually that good yesterday - Dallas just can't finish and Edmonton can. Dallas finished chances 10x better than us all season lmao. That's how brutal Skinner was all year, folks have a huge axe to grind with him and now absolutely refuse to acknowledge anything positive he does.
"he just did what a goalie is supposed to do"
"Dallas just can't finish"
"Remember that weak one in G7 of the Finals last year?"

He hasn't had a good season at all but holy hell people. We're up a game in the WCF and our best (or second best) 2 way D could be back soon.

You recognize that there is a major difference in what players finish in postseason vs regular season? A lot of guys can score in regular season. A lot of the same players are not scoring to save their lives in playoffs. Its not just incidental that Duchene failed to cash yesterday he has only 1 goal all playoffs.

The Stars yesterday iced a forward lineup wherein only 4 of them have scored more than 1G this entire playoffs.

Its interesting that the Stars top two producers in playoffs are Rantanen and smallish Granlund. They have nobody going. They were mostly stone cold entering into this series. The only question was how long were these guys going to fail at scoring. Rantanen has 1 assist in this series. lol. He was responsible for a couple of our goals yesterday.

Dallas have a lot of trouble scoring in playoffs. They have to win low scoring games and for reasons that are obvious they haven't been able to do that against the high flying Oilers.

Obviously the Oilers can finish and the Stars can't. It was the story last spring and has turned out that way this spring so far.

Skinner played well, but Dallas can't score to save their playoff lives. Thats always been their story. Both things are true. Indeed Dallas got Rantanen at all due to their desperation trying to find a level of player that would be able to produce in playoffs.

 

[Jimmi McJenkins]

 

[Drivesaitl]

I never understood why media folks and even some Oiler fans were polishing Rantanen so much. He's been a ghost most of the time after his trade from Colorado outside of like 3-4 playoff games, some folks were acting as if he's McDrai level, it was crazy. Very good player of course who can still show up in a big way in this series but his play is highly inconsistent.

Mostly in his career I've kicked Rants in the nuts lots of times suggesting something lacking in his game.

After game 2 I mocked that Dallas ain't paying him 11M just to beat his Ex club. But that almost seems now what occurred. The guy has been mia in this series. been watching him. Sure he's making some plays but he has 1pt and he's been culprit on more GA than anything he's pushed. he's getting eaten against any of our top Centers.

Rants is back to what I figured he was most of career. A very good player but one that struggles to move offense consistently on his own. He's being paid as a superstar now but its night and day (of course) how much better McD and Drai are than rants. But RNH at HALF the pricetag is putting Rants to shame. Good for you Nugey!

 

[stewy04]

Wonder how many ignore lists you're on at this point. Clearly not enough.

He just got 1 more lol