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Proposal: Skinner to NYI

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Aho Mitakuye Oyasin said:
Come now... Canes fans have mocked every single Jeff Skinner thread that has been created over the past 2-3 years because they are all exactly the same. This isn't discriminatory.

Nobody wants to pay the real cost for a 24 year old 30 goal scorer. Everybody thinks they can low ball the Canes because he is "injury prone" (he isn't) and he "needs a change of scenery" (he doesn't). Skinner has played 93.5% of games over the past three seasons. That is 230 of 246 games. Skinner had arguably his best year as a Hurricane last year at 23 years old.

The narrative is just funny at this point.
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This^^ ...pretty much sums it up.
 
Killerlnstinct said:
So the OP makes a "bad trade" proposal. Not one other Islander fan agrees with OP. Every Cane fan makes a mockery out of the post. A simple no would have been fine, but I guess the childish remarks are the better route? :facepalm:
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When you have a drinking game thread dedicated to the outrageous Skinner proposals we receive - it starts to all make sense.

Also start to feel a bit looser too ;)
 
If you want an honest discussion of the proposal, I'll give an opinion. As an islander fan, I would decline. There is just too much risk with skinner. He's great, but the isles don't have enough helmets to protect him. I'd rather keep strome than worry about skinner. Grabo is a nullity as he is one concussion ahead of skinner and should be ltir.
 
FreshSeabass said:
It must be nice being a fan of a team that doesn't receive ridiculous trade proposals on this board on a weekly basis huh? :help:
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Well as someone who wasn't aware of all factors included how would I know about "bad Skinner proposals"? Like I said, ONE Islander fan proposed it and he was the only ONE who spoke about it again. I really feel bad for you guys, I'm sure your the only team who receives bad trade proposals. :facepalm:. Again, I have no idea what Skinner value is so I won't even bother trying.
 
Bossy Mike said:
If you want an honest discussion of the proposal, I'll give an opinion. As an islander fan, I would decline. There is just too much risk with skinner. He's great, but the isles don't have enough helmets to protect him. I'd rather keep strome than worry about skinner. Grabo is a nullity as he is one concussion ahead of skinner and should be ltir.
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It's not a good enough deal to land SKinner (understandable from the Canes perspective). Wow, summed up in 10 seconds instead of childish remarks...AMAZING!
 
Killerlnstinct said:
It's not a good enough deal to land SKinner (understandable from the Canes perspective). Wow, summed up in 10 seconds instead of childish remarks...AMAZING!
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I agree that it's value heavily favors the isles, but I am tired of watching for concussions. Skinner is clearly better than the op offer, but I don't want to watch for and wonder about the next big hit on Skinner.
 
Bossy Mike said:
I agree that it's value heavily favors the isles, but I am tired of watching for concussions. Skinner is clearly better than the op offer, but I don't want to watch for and wonder about the next big hit on Skinner.
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Apparently SOME fans can't have a debate without blowing some gaskets lol.

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Every player in the NHL has pros and cons to their game, and every fanbase is intent to post about how none of the cons remotely affect that player's value and we need to focus only on the pros to accurately judge their value.

Like it or not, Skinner is injury prone. As is Grabo, as is Halak, as was DiPietro, the list could go on and on and on. Asking another team to simply ignore those negative factors when making an offer is like a real estate agent asking prospective buyers to ignore the flooded basement when making their purchase.

Ditto for if a player has character concerns, if they're a pending UFA, if they're an RFA asking for a boatload of money, if a team has a lot of forwards but really needs a defenseman, if there's pending legal troubles, etc etc. Not a single one of those factors matters, only how many points they put up in their best season 6 years ago.
 
CodeE said:
Every player in the NHL has pros and cons to their game, and every fanbase is intent to post about how none of the cons remotely affect that player's value and we need to focus only on the pros to accurately judge their value.

Like it or not, Skinner is injury prone. As is Grabo, as is Halak, as was DiPietro, the list could go on and on and on. Asking another team to simply ignore those negative factors when making an offer is like a real estate agent asking prospective buyers to ignore the flooded basement when making their purchase.

Ditto for if a player has character concerns, if they're a pending UFA, if they're an RFA asking for a boatload of money, if a team has a lot of forwards but really needs a defenseman, if there's pending legal troubles, etc etc. Not a single one of those factors matters, only how many points they put up in their best season 6 years ago.
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If anyone wants some insight into why Canes fans have made a big joke out of Skinner proposals, give this post a nice long read. Soak it in. Contemplate it. Look at the facts. After a while one realizes that legitimately zero of what this person said is true. It's a silly narrative.

The Skinner ignorance on this site is hilarious. People can't help themselves. They probably haven't watched a game Skinner has played, like ever.

I seriously can't even tell if this guy is joking. That's how silly it is.
 
CodeE said:
Every player in the NHL has pros and cons to their game, and every fanbase is intent to post about how none of the cons remotely affect that player's value and we need to focus only on the pros to accurately judge their value.

Like it or not, Skinner is injury prone. As is Grabo, as is Halak, as was DiPietro, the list could go on and on and on. Asking another team to simply ignore those negative factors when making an offer is like a real estate agent asking prospective buyers to ignore the flooded basement when making their purchase.

Ditto for if a player has character concerns, if they're a pending UFA, if they're an RFA asking for a boatload of money, if a team has a lot of forwards but really needs a defenseman, if there's pending legal troubles, etc etc. Not a single one of those factors matters, only how many points they put up in their best season 6 years ago.
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The next beer is yours. Slainte
 
skinner is one hit away from being completely decapitated, with his brains scattered across the ice

skinner is the reason the nhl games are rated e10 for ages 10 and up
 
islandersbob said:
I'm fairly certain after the 2014-15 your response would have been the EXACT opposite. I would go on, but......:deadhorse
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Don't need to convince me, OP changed my mind on the first page of the thread. I'm all in, I just hope it's not too late to consummate this sweet, sweet trade.
 
i think we should cut jeff skinner into 30 pieces, and send one to each nhl team in exchange for a conditional 7th round pick, while keeping one to dangle in the expansion draft

he may be one hit away from retirement, but hes a brutal butchering away from making the carolina hurricanes be the entire 2019 7th round
 
CodeE said:
Like it or not, Skinner is injury prone. As is Grabo, as is Halak, as was DiPietro,
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Just for clarification, what criteria do you use to say a player in "injury prone"? Contrary to popular belief, Jeff Skinner has missed a grand total of 37 games due to injury over his 6 year NHL career. (he also missed 2 games for suspension and 1 for other non-injury reasons so he's missed 40 games total). Grabovski has missed significantly more than that in just the last 2 seasons alone. Dipietro has pretty much missed entire seasons.

the list could go on and on and on. Asking another team to simply ignore those negative factors when making an offer is like a real estate agent asking prospective buyers to ignore the flooded basement when making their purchase.
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The list could go on and on if you were using valid comparisons, but you aren't. Look, nobody is asking anyone to ignore Skinner's history, Canes fans are just asking people to get their facts straight and accurately represent the data rather just spouting off a popular narrative. Even your own characterization of Skinner's injury history is misleading at best. Let's stick with some facts:

Fact: Skinner has had 3 concussions early in his NHL career, nobody is debating that.
Fact: Skinner has played in ~92% of available games in his 6 year career. I don't want to spend time checking over all the data, but I bet that's better than average across all NHL players.
Fact: Skinner has missed only 37 games over 6 years due to injury.
Opinion and concern: (but not fact) is that because of those concussions, he's more susceptible to having a severe concussion than other players. That may or may not be true, but it is a valid concern.

But instead of sticking with facts, stating concerns, and portraying it accurately, what we constantly see in every trade proposal is that he is "injury prone" and "1 hit away from retirement" and "not the same since his concussions" (even though he's had a 33G and 28G season since) by fans of other teams.
 
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