Confirmed Trade: [SJS/NSH] Yaroslavl Askarov, Nolan Burke, 2025 COL 3rd round pick for David Edstrom, Magnus Chrona, 2025 SJS/VGK 1st round pick (top 10 conditional)

[ViD]

I love that Sharks are getting Askarov what a great fit for them.The way i see it he is likely to be something like Shesterkin in the future.

Nabokov

 

[Stewie Griffin]

What's up with Panthers fans ripping on Grier lately

When he was hired the Sharks were probably the worst looking organization in the league...now they have the best prospect pool and a ton of cap space. He can do whatever he wants.

 

[Patty Ice]

That's fair, but I wouldn't say Grier regularly overpays.

Is it though?

We know there was a market for him and Trotz didn't have to trade him right now. How often do talented young goaltenders become available?

The price Grier paid was one I easily accepted. The only way I see it becoming an overpay is if that Vegas 1st becomes a top 10 pick but at that point it's hindsight. Right now you have to value it as a late 1st.

 

[Grinner]

SJ still needs defense and wingers. They’ll still be in the tank for 2-3 more years getting those.

Yes a top line RW and RD is still a need.

Ceci, a player on the outs due to cap situation, overpays

Askarov a play refusing the report to the AHL, overpays (shouldn’t have needed the 1st)

Time will tell if his prospect pool pays off or not.

That's true of any prospect pool

 

[AtlantaWhaler]

Well, girlfriend wanted a commitment. Boy wasn’t ready to leave his other girlfriend.


Huh?

Boyfriend wanted to take it slow, especially after girlfriend …. Uhhhh…regressed all season an got benched in the playoffs (I got nothing) … but girlfriend wanted to get married too quick. In the meantime boyfriend wanted to marry someone else.

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

They didn’t get paid to take Ceci, they still had to give up a decent defensive prospect for him

They got a 3rd, wth you mean they didnt get paid. You also have extrmeley loose definitions of prospect and decent

 

[Sparkleton]

What's up with Panthers fans ripping on Grier lately

If you’re asking this honestly the answer is a lot of NFL Dolphin’s fans don’t like Chris Grier and are projecting like crazy.

 

[Sparkleton]

Is it though?

We know there was a market for him and Trotz didn't have to trade him right now. How often do talented young goaltenders become available?

The price Grier paid was one I easily accepted. The only way I see it becoming an overpay is if that Vegas 1st becomes a top 10 pick but at that point it's hindsight. Right now you have to value it as a late 1st.

So many people have this hilarious fake business fantasy where a player asset is distressed and they can swoop in and get that still great player for peanuts when time and time again it is shown the value is slightly devalued at most.

Rutger literally just got traded for Yaeger and while I value Rutger slightly higher it wasn’t a huge steal after months of bad headlines when Rutger could literally not sign in 2 seasons and the Jets would get nothing. It was fair.

Askarov was 11th overall and just got a 32nd and the Vegas pick (18-24ish?). Nothing crazy going on here.

 

[PredsV82]

Damn that's a pretty good return for Nashville. Burke and Chrona seem like mostly nothing pieces, so it's basically Edstrom and a 1st for Askarov and a 3rd.

Good deal for both sides, the Sharks gave up assets they could afford to give up and the Predators got good value for a guy who wanted out.

Don't underestimate what our goalie factory coaches can make out of a 6'6" Scandinavian goalie.

 

[KingsFan7824]

Is it though?

We know there was a market for him and Trotz didn't have to trade him right now. How often do talented young goaltenders become available?

The price Grier paid was one I easily accepted. The only way I see it becoming an overpay is if that Vegas 1st becomes a top 10 pick but at that point it's hindsight. Right now you have to value it as a late 1st.

It's late August. How many teams are in a position to trade for a entry level contract goalie who doesn't want to play in the AHL? SJ, with 2 UFA goalies at the end of this year, already signed him, with 3 NHL games, to guaranteed millions. How many teams were in that same position? Considering what Nashville got, was there a huge market?

 

[Patty Ice]

It's late August. How many teams are in a position to trade for a entry level contract goalie who doesn't want to play in the AHL? SJ, with 2 UFA goalies at the end of this year, already signed him, with 3 NHL games, to guaranteed millions. How many teams were in that same position? Considering what Nashville got, was there a huge market?

New Jersey, Montreal, and Chicago were mentioned as being in the market. That's enough to drive the price.

Also, Grier pointed out that Askarov is fine with starting in the AHL this season. Of course, the path is also very clear for him as you pointed out.

So again, what reason did Trotz have to rush this and what grounds did teams have to low-ball him?

 

[centipede2233]

So this is what happens when poile and Wilson are no longer GM’s, a good hockey trade. My god they were both horrible in the last years

 

[LeonDraisaitl]

Time will tell but I’ve been really impressed with most everything San Jose has done the last bit. A definite team to watch

 

[triggrman]

He got his money from San Jose earlier than he would have from Nashville and has a clean path, so he’s good now. Nashville got a good return so Nashville is happy. Sometimes it just works out.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

Sharks are a wagon.

 

[Czechboy]

Tremendous work from sharks. A team on the rise and sometimes goalies just need space and time to shine. I think askarov will do very well and will grow with SJ. Please trade vanecek for something useful.

 

[PredsV82]

So this is what happens when poile and Wilson are no longer GM’s, a good hockey trade. My god they were both horrible in the last years

Yes Poile famously horribly got a whole draft class from Tampa for Tanner Jeannot. Horrible.

 

[weastern bias]

They didn’t get paid to take Ceci, they still had to give up a decent defensive prospect for him

Ty Emberson needs to play 50 NHL games next season to remain a restricted free agent and avoid classifying as a Group 6 UFA

He has played 30 career NHL games because he couldn't stay healthy enough to play more last year

He looked admirable playing a small sample of games on one of the worst teams of all time last year, but it's pretty likely he would have been a UFA at season's end and walked for nothing, he was a warm body in the Ceci trade and was used as a contract slot to add a 3rd round pick to take on Ceci's cap hit, we didn't really pay value because that value was going to be lost for nothing

 

[centipede2233]

Yes Poile famously horribly got a whole draft class from Tampa for Tanner Jeannot. Horrible.

Its well known trotz was heavily influencing decisions in the last months of poile’s tenure.

 

[Petes2424]

FWIW I don't think he's being traded for the NHL roster immediately. I think he'll start in the AHL but there will be injuries and he'll get more than 5 starts, maybe 10. We had a bunch of our AHL prospects starting games last season with Blackwood and Kahkonen out as much as we did. It's "character building" but at least our D is slightly better than last year and our forward corps is MUCH deeper and more responsible.

But the path to being the starter is very clear. One year up-and-down (but the commute is across the hallway), one year of backup or platoon, and if he's doing well, he's the starter on an ascending team in 2026.

Have they announced this? His entire threat to go to the KHL was that he wouldn’t report to the AHL??

My guess is he will as well. It makes sense anyway. I’d also guess his threat was just to get him into a situation where he’d have a better opportunity sooner. Like I said though, they better be careful. Not only is he a wild card with his attitude, we’ve seen too many young goalies get ruined by letting them play in the league prior to being ready.

 

[Saskatoon]

Have they announced this? His entire threat to go to the KHL was that he wouldn’t report to the AHL??

My guess is he will as well. It makes sense anyway. I’d also guess his threat was just to get him into a situation where he’d have a better opportunity sooner. Like I said though, they better be careful. Not only is he a wild card with his attitude, we’ve seen too many young goalies get ruined by letting them play in the league prior to being ready.

I think it was the Saros contract more than anything.

 

[aircobra]

Have they announced this? His entire threat to go to the KHL was that he wouldn’t report to the AHL??

My guess is he will as well. It makes sense anyway. I’d also guess his threat was just to get him into a situation where he’d have a better opportunity sooner. Like I said though, they better be careful. Not only is he a wild card with his attitude, we’ve seen too many young goalies get ruined by letting them play in the league prior to being ready.

I think it had more to do with him wanting to be a #1 starter and he wasn't going to get that opportunity in Nashville because of Saros. I believe after the trade it was reported that he was fine going to the AHL to start the season. His path to being what he wants isn't blocked with the Sharks. I seriously doubt they traded for him just to rush him into the NHL, especially on a rebuilding team.

 

[JPT]

I think it had more to do with him wanting to be a #1 starter and he wasn't going to get that opportunity in Nashville because of Saros. I believe after the trade it was reported that he was fine going to the AHL to start the season. His path to being what he wants isn't blocked with the Sharks. I seriously doubt they traded for him just to rush him into the NHL, especially on a rebuilding team.

He could have just started in the AHL in Milwaukee and waited for the trade Trotz had already told him they were going to make instead of turning it into a quasi-spectacle like he did

 

[StreetHawk]

New Jersey, Montreal, and Chicago were mentioned as being in the market. That's enough to drive the price.

Also, Grier pointed out that Askarov is fine with starting in the AHL this season. Of course, the path is also very clear for him as you pointed out.

So again, what reason did Trotz have to rush this and what grounds did teams have to low-ball him?

SJ farm team in the same city as the NHL team. Vs with Nash and Milwaukee.

Other teams were in on Askarov. So, that ensured a good enough return for Nash.

Unfortunately, whenever the GM that drafts a goalie high leaves (before 4 years, which is about the earliest time for the goalie to make the NHL), plans can and do change over time.

In recent drats, Tallon drafted Knight and he is long gone. Poile drafted Askarov and he's since stepped down. Yzerman/Guerin still around after taking Cossa/Wallstedt.

 

[Cashville]

One of the better mutual-benefit trades in a while imo. Best of luck Sharks, you got a dope goalie prospect.