You guys act like we just traded away a Forsberg equivalent.. ffs this is a replacement level bottom 6 player who will probably have decent numbers for a year or two on a shit team like San Jose but was never gonna move the needle in Nashville. Jankowski or Sherwood will be just about the same effect
That's true, he might just be another Kamanev at worst, but all these unforced errors add up. If he just ends up turning into a gritty 15-20 goal scorer then we could have had him and Tolvanen scoring 35-40, add in a Tomasino when we trade him for crap and that's a potential 60 goals in three players gone. I'd rather take a chance with Egor than with Jankowski, we know who he is already.
There's nothing "unforced" about it. Egor absolutely "forced" Trotz to make this move with his threat.
After nearly six years with the organization I think it's a pretty valid concern of his. He should be getting NHL ice time, he should have gotten more before so that he'd be an NHL regular by now.
And rightly so. He did exactly what every single poster that craps on our youngsters says they need to do, earn their shot. He did that, and hasn't gotten it. If you are in his position are you going to just keep sitting around and hoping the staff that hasn't given you a shot, and through negotiations is showing no signs of giving it to you, or are you going to take what other options you have?
I mean I'd rather give him a shot than just keep floating guys like Sherwood, and Smith out there.
He's improved most years in the AHL, he should have been called up a few seasons ago.
Please stop with this made up narrative, no one is acting like we traded away Forsberg. What everyone is ticked off about is that a guy earned his shot and he basically had to try and strong arm our GM into giving it to him. It has nothing to do with him personally.
He got 17 games at the NHL level in 22-23 and did absolutely jack squat. Like all of us I was hoping hed get more games in the NHL this year, especially after we traded Trenin, but he didn't. Being good in the AHL should not guarantee you an NHL slot. He obviously wanted a one way contract. He didn't "earn" that. In my opinion he earned a spot on the roster on opening night next year but not a guaranteed spot for the whole season. If he had stayed he would have had a chance to prove he deserved it, and the way we are with waivers(most of the time) he would have probably stayed up and got what he wanted, but instead he forced Trotz hand.
Not necessarily if he was on a one way deal. That would have been bad cap management. And set bad precedent.
Unless you're paying him more than $1.15 million, you can bury an entire one-way contract in the AHL with zero cap hit. Maybe bad precedent, but it wouldn't affect the cap.
Preds on one way deals this year included Jordan Gross, Jaret Anderson-Dolan and Wade Allison.. I understand they have a bit more history in the NHL and all but the idea of hanging on to Egor with a one way isn't that outlandish to me. It also doesn't affect the cap necessarily since it's fully buriable.
And as far as precedents goes, while Afanaseyev may not have great upside, if it's even true that his agent demanded a 1-way deal or threatened to go back to Russia (I haven't seen that actually reported anywhere btw, just suggested by a poster here) then it's worth keeping in mind that his agent tends to handle a lot of the Russian prospects. And if Trotz were to have issues with that agent's approach, it could have repercussions beyond Afanaseyev, because if I'm not mistaken the same agent represents Askarov and Svechkov too. Who are much bigger hopefuls for the Preds.
It’s also plausible that they in fact did him a solid by giving him a much better chance to play in the NHL. Which is far better than playing in the AHL on a buried contract. We can’t know.
Oh ffs.... "big, big loss"???? Come on. I'll use the analogy again, this isn't like when Washington traded Forsberg.
I don’t think is a huge loss but it’s another disappointment that once again Nashville shows they can’t develop forwards well. Losing another drafted player. At this point I say trade all of our picks because more than 3/4 of our forwards are from trades or free agency. I would hate to get drafted by Nashville as a forward because no matter what you do you may or may not get a chance with preds.
Doesnt send a good message to the other prospects though... you have to force your way to getting NHL opportunities because this organization refuses to allow their prospects the chance. Tomasino is likely out the door as well because we refuse to let players into the NHL unless we have beaten the 2 way grinder mentality into them
I don’t think people think it’s a big loss like we thought he was gonna be some 60 point forward. I think what makes it a loss to me is he didn’t get a chance to prove what he can do. Yea last year he got 17 games but his development in one yea look like he was primed to play with us next year just to trade him for a player that truly look like a bust. This organization is really hard on their drafted forwards for some reason.
Yeah at the very least Afanasyev was a top AHL player and we've had no problem giving deals like that to strictly AHL guys. We don't really know what Afanasyev's ask so maybe it truly was unreasonable but guys aren't going to be happy continually making $70k in the AHL and not being given a shot.
