I'm not sure if the asking for 1.8M part is actually true, or if that's what the Oilers were offering, and Broberg's camp was sitting on that offer hoping for more.
If there are multiple teams willing to pay 4.5M for a player, then that is the market value to contract that player.
Okay, where was this logic before the Ceci trade? When almost every Oiler fan said they preferred to let Broberg walk but keep Holloway?
This is how you argue, Oilers Peeps! Learn from this and be better, please. It will make our discussions much better.
and this
It still is absolutely crazy...doesn't mean I didn't wanna keep him
don't lump all Oilers fans the same....I said they should keep Broberg and let Holloway go
I'd keep Broberg and let Holloway walk, we are deep on the wings and Holloway doesn't have the offensive pedigree to crack the top 6
but I think they do the opposite
What do the Oilers do with the Blues' offersheets?
For me (and I suspect most) it's match Holloway and let Broberg walk. Can't have a 3rd pairing dman on your roster make that much. It's smart for the Blues, limited risk and relatively cheap, and not like they have much in the pipeline to worry about Edmonton matching.forums.hfboards.com
It's a salt mine in here and I'm enjoying it.
It's bad the first year. I think he'll be worth it the 2nd, especially if playing as a LHD.
It was around as well. There's a lot of moving parts here, and a lot of discussions with shifting opinions have taken place. Trying to paint it as a black and white discussion shows a lack of depth. Many Oiler fans have posted different options and scenarios we could see, or would prefer.
The one you first mentioned was the tweets from Bruce Curlock. He's a great analyst and is much respected in the Oiler circles for his analysis on up and coming players:
It might be okay the first year too. It isn't bad because he has no chance of getting to the level where he is earning that money, its bad because he hasn't proven it yet, and because it's more than what we would have had to pay had the offer sheet not come in. If Broberg plays like he did in the playoffs, he probably earns that contract in year one. It's just the uncertainty of it that makes it questionable.
You're right, I didn't intend to lump them all together, but rather highlight how quickly the consensus changed.
But didn't you say you didn't want him back?
It was not the consensus argument, and specifically, not the argument made by the poster I originally quoted.
We have no way of knowing what he would have made as a UFA. But we do know that a team was willing to pay 4.5Mx2 for him, which is what sets the market rate for him. That's how markets work.
Then we trade him. Someone will want him. The hope is that he gets the chances he was looking for, becomes a bigger part of the team's success, and enjoys his growth here.
Are you incapable of understanding the context that makes the situation better than it was a week ago?
Taking The Hockey News at any value is your first mistake. Although the article you posted referred to the waiver claim as "one of GM Grier's most underrated moves", and the player as "one of the Sharks' most effective defensemen". There's a lot of unknown's about this player for Oiler fans, but there are analysts out there who actually follow these players for a living.
That's at best a simplistic evaluation of how markets work, and at worst, a blatant misrepresentation of how they work. Anyone who knows how markets truly work knows that you're looking at a full spectrum in black and white here.
Now it’s switched to how awful a gm Grier is because he didn’t get a first.
Not really. I still don't like Broberg at 4.5m but he's a bigger organizational need. I'd prefer to keep both guys but with the Pod and Savoie trades I can understand the management's decision. Also thought we'd have to attach more to dump Ceci. Circumstances change.
Yes I did, because I was pissed off that he signed the offer sheet. I know he will be at the least a good top 4 D (playing on the left side), so it stung to think we'd lose him for a 2nd only. The kid has talent, and only finally seemed to be clicking in the playoffs. Oiler fans have seen flashes of what he can be, and by all accounts heard whispers of how he is one of the best on ice in practices and scrimmages. Frustration man...but Stan pulled some moves. I would rather keep him than lose him for a paltry pick. He needs opportunity, and faith shown to him by the org. Looks like they're doing just that.
True... accepting rumour as fact is unwise, but i seem to recall that the source was ok.
