weinsink
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You will find out why again this year why you need a player of his calibre..0 toughness on your team whatsoever other then middleweight martin if he dresses,leafs will get pummeled by the bigger teams.
Value of: Simmonds to TOR
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Magic Man
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Kapanen is an excellent defensive player. His speed makes only a short few uncatchable on the back check and he's a risk to score every time he's out on the PK. Give him a couple years and put him in a position to succeed and he could be a 70 point player who's your team's best defensive/PK forward.
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therealkoho
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Nylander is not an NHL centre anymore then Galchenyuk or Drouin or even Freddie Goats...so please just perish the thought
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Nylander has already taken over 500 face offs this year and anytime a center has missed time he has moved into the middle and done quite well. 49.6% for someone who isn't there full time yet is respectable.
Maybe the fact that Drouin's faceoff percentage has lowered every season since he got to the NHL to the point he is 40.7% on the draw this year. Galchenyuk same thing, last time he took as many draws as Nylander has he was winning at a rate of 42.7%.
If you don't think Nylander will be a great center you don't watch him play, simple as that. Just because Montreal has two guys that couldn't make the transition doesn't mean all players are doomed to that fate. Starting centers on the wing has been very common in the NHL I don't know why suddenly everyone immediately assumes they won't be able to translate over.
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Starat327
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Seconded. Im probably in the minority here, but I prefer the 19 first, over the 18.
Absolutely silly that the Leafs would give up so much for one year of Simmons. When he's a UFA in 2019, ya the thinking might be different, but even then the Leafs have "lots" of wingers. RHD and centre are needs and that's where money will be spent and if necessary assets will be traded for those positions.
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Who is going to get the puck to Matthews?
You built a top line of three grinders.
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therealkoho
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"don't watch him play" is probably the most over used nonsense on this site, the league is littered with players who the fans thought could play centre at that level, there is more to the position then just winning draws. Willie is a great RW and a mediocre centre, he just doesn't have the will to play low in his own end.
An NHL centre has to be a snarling dog in their own end and Willie just isn't that guy, the only NHL centre i can recall not being that way was Gretzky and Willie sure ain't no Gretzky. Anyone who wants to break up what he and Auston do for each other doesn't really get hockey...fans are fans because they are, not because they're experts but simply because they love the game, if you think you know something that NHL coaches don't then you should go get your certies and start the long climb into the big chair.
Marv Levy once said when you start listening to the people in the seats you'll soon end up joining them.
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I don't see Simmonds going for much more than a mid-1st and a B-prospect at the draft. It should be obvious to any GM that his ES play has taken a hit this year.
Yeah, I'd love that.
Kapanen + 2019 1st
Simmonds + 2020 4th
Yeah, I'd love that.
Starat327
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Agreed. If oilers are competitive next year, and don't make any other moves, I could see him going there.
Liferleafer
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Not sure how this makes any sense for Toronto?
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Nah, pretty sure you haven’t watched as he was just getting praised last week for covering his man in front of the net and playing low, like a centre should. This isn’t a Galchenyuk situation whatsoever, he’s played C internationally, in the AHL and the NHL, and hasn’t looked out of place doing it. Furthermore Babcock has already stated he’s being transitioned, and until a spot opens up he’ll act as fill in.
Like you said, fans are fans, and it isn’t the fans transitioning Nylander to C. It is you, a fan, who is disagreeing with the experts however and inaccurately describing how he’s played the position.
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That's insane for a guy that hasn't surpassed 60 points in his career....huge pass from the Leafs
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Letting JVR walk and then trading Kapanen + 1st for Simmonds is the epitome of stupid.
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Figure out a way to keep JVR if you want to waste money on another winger.
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