Sidney Crosby Top 5 player of all time

[Dakine879]

He passed those guys. This is a 31 team league now. His entire body of work is far more impressive.

He's better than Gretzky???

WHAT COLOR IS THE SKY IN YOUR WORLD DUDE????????

 

[1967th Heaven]

Um no he's not AINEC.

Can you provide one reason why Sakic/ Yzerman are better than Crosby?

 

[Peat]

He's not even 2/3rds through his career, no way you can call it.

I mean... nights like this help him in the conversation, sure.

 

[Hictor Vedman*]

He'll pass Lemieux at this rate.

 

[Pick87your71Poison]

I'd be curious as to what you think Sakic and Yzerman did to earn a spot above Crosby on the all-time list.

It's a very simple answer. They retired and put some time since their careers.

That's literally it.

 

[The Grim Reaper]

He's better than Gretzky???

WHAT COLOR IS THE SKY IN YOUR WORLD DUDE????????

He was referring to passing these guys, not that difficult to understand.

He might slide into that 5 slot, but it's not clear cut. He's competing with guys like Hull, Beliveau, Richard, Harvey, Shore, etc.

 

[Riptide]

Gretzky
Orr
Howe
Lemieux

are all still solidly above him.

He might slide into that 5 slot, but it's not clear cut. He's competing with guys like Hull, Beliveau, Richard, Harvey, Shore, etc.

And I don't think there's a single (rational) Pens fan who would question those 4 - because you're right, they all are solidly above him.

 

[Neil Hamburger]

He passed those guys. This is a 31 team league now. His entire body of work is far more impressive.

You could certainly make a case for him being top 5, but it's not "without question" as you say in the OP.

I think it's very likely he cements that top 5 spot during the rest of his career, but I don't think it's solidified at all right now.

 

[Killer Orcas]

They dominated when they played compared to Crosby and still won. Crosby is a great player but he doesn't outshine other players by large enough margins to be considered all time great.Those guys played alot longer as well and honestly I think they were more skilled. Everyone today wants to say this player is better then so and so but really just because your the best now doesn't make you the best ever. Iv'e read people claiming whose better Mario or Crosby? To even ask that is a joke Mario was twice the player Crosby ever was. People love to pump current players and thats fine but in my opinion Sakic and Yzerman were better players. I watched those two and they just dominated like Crosby to me has never done.

 

[WiLBoY]

Yzerman and Sakic better than Crosby, that's a good joke

 

[Neil Hamburger]

They dominated when they played compared to Crosby and still won. Crosby is a great player but he doesn't outshine other players by large enough margins to be considered all time great.Those guys played alot longer as well and honestly I think they were more skilled. Everyone today wants to say this player is better then so and so but really just because your the best now doesn't make you the best ever. Iv'e read people claiming whose better Mario or Crosby? To even ask that is a joke Mario was twice the player Crosby ever was. People love to pump current players and thats fine but in my opinion Sakic and Yzerman were better players. I watched those two and they just dominated like Crosby to me has never done.

Sakic's my favourite player of all time, but he and Yzerman were clearly a level below Crosby.

 

[chunkylover53]

Crosby is like top 10 already. When he's career is over he'll have a good case for top 5.

 

[Dakine879]

He was referring to passing these guys, not that difficult to understand.

when crosby wins 5 cups against messier's 6 cups you can tell me he is better.

not too hard to understand.

 

[The Panther]

Without question, Sid is now one of the Top 5 best players of all time...

It's nice that you believe this. However, 95% of hockey fans in the world don't.


Sid is clearly not in the top-10 now. I'd say he has about a 10-20% chance of breaking into the top-10 by the end of his career, if a lot of things go right. (Which they might -- the NHL is gifting him Conn Smythes, apparently, so who knows what else they'll do to sell him?)

 

[MVP of West Hollywd]

Beliveau is ahead, he has most of what Crosby has for going for him but for longer

 

[CHGoalie27]

Wtf messier?

wtf someone who thinks ("thinks") this is ok to post

 

[Stad]

Sakic and Yzerman better than Sid??? . Thanks for the laugh.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

I think the real question is has he almost caught Toews yet?

 

[1967th Heaven]

They dominated when they played compared to Crosby and still won. Crosby is a great player but he doesn't outshine other players by large enough margins to be considered all time great.Those guys played alot longer as well and honestly I think they were more skilled. Everyone today wants to say this player is better then so and so but really just because your the best now doesn't make you the best ever. Iv'e read people claiming whose better Mario or Crosby? To even ask that is a joke Mario was twice the player Crosby ever was. People love to pump current players and thats fine but in my opinion Sakic and Yzerman were better players. I watched those two and they just dominated like Crosby to me has never done.

Yzerman (in 22 Seasons)
3 Cups
1 Ted Lindsay
1 Conn Smythe
0 Hart
0 Art Ross
0 Richard
1 Selke
6 Top 10 goal finishes
6 Top 10 point finishes
16th in career points per game

Sakic (in 20 season)
2 Cups
1 Ted Lindsay
1 Conn Smythe
1 Hart
0 Art Ross
0 Richard
0 Selke
5 Top 10 goal finishes
10 Top 10 point finishes
12th career points per game

Crosby (in 12 season)
3 Cups
3 Ted Lindsay
2 Conn Smythe
2 Hart
2 Art Ross
2 Richard
0 Selke
4 Top 10 goal finishes
9 Top 10 point finishes
6th career points per game (yes I am aware this will go down once he hits the latter stages of his career)

Sid is already ahead of these guys in almost every way and has barely played half as long.

 

[Goldenshark]

when crosby wins 5 cups against messier's 6 cups you can tell me he is better.

not too hard to understand.

Lemieux won 2 Cups to Crosby's 3 and Lemieux is still way better than Crosby, so Cup wins is not always a good measuring stick.

 

[Hank Plank]

Very difficult to compare players from vastly different eras, but league parity now is a major factor to consider. And goaltending, go watch highlights from 30 years ago the goalies had tiny equipment and were generally laughable.

 

[Admiral Awesome]

(Which they might -- the NHL is gifting him Conn Smythes, apparently, so who knows what else they'll do to sell him?)

lol yeah pretty much

 

[Dakine879]

Lemieux won 2 Cups to Crosby's 3 and Lemieux is still way better than Crosby, so Cup wins is not always a good measuring stick.

alright. i give in .

Sidney Crosby is the greatest hockey player ever.

 

[nowhereman]

They dominated when they played compared to Crosby and still won. Crosby is a great player but he doesn't outshine other players by large enough margins to be considered all time great.Those guys played alot longer as well and honestly I think they were more skilled. Everyone today wants to say this player is better then so and so but really just because your the best now doesn't make you the best ever. Iv'e read people claiming whose better Mario or Crosby? To even ask that is a joke Mario was twice the player Crosby ever was. People love to pump current players and thats fine but in my opinion Sakic and Yzerman were better players. I watched those two and they just dominated like Crosby to me has never done.

Wow.

I dont even think we're watching the same sport....

 

[CHGoalie27]

alright. i give in .

Sidney Crosby is the greatest hockey player ever.

OK, great!

Now let's work on "The refs don't help teams win".