Lmao. The bias that just drips off of these contrasting descriptions.
The McDavid play is just an example of the long established history of how the NHL allocates assists for scoring plays. They broke their established precedent when scoring the Marner play, that was less disrupted than the McDavid one in every way. Whether you wish to call it possession, or a deliberate/meaningful play on the puck, the NHL has not considered kicking at a puck like that as that. They messed up, and while not all that important, it sucks that they screwed over one of the league's biggest stars and prevented him from hitting an earned milestone.
Lmao. The bias that just drips off of these contrasting descriptions.
"An attempted kick that flubs the puck a few inches and lays there"? Funny how an "attempted kick" moved a stationary puck. Almost like it was a... kick.
We both know that it went more than a few inches, that small distances are pretty impactful when you're moving things out of the crease in a mad scramble, and that it didn't lay there - it was picked up by the opposing player and shot in the net, just like with the Matthews goal, but I'm not sure why distance travelled or what happened later has much relevance to whether the kick disrupts the scoring chain in the first place.
On the McDavid play, the player kicked a stationary puck out of the crease. On the Marner play, the player kicked a mid-air puck that was going to Matthews, onto Matthews' stick. Not only are you just pulling this "impact" stuff out of nowhere, there is zero argument that the McDavid play kick was less impactful than the one in the Marner play.
And that's not true. One of the countless other players would have picked it up, and even if they hadn't, there was so little force on it that it likely would have stopped moving on its own before it got over the blueline. And again, what you think hypothetically could have happened if what happened didn't happen doesn't break an assist chain.
Not really. Fact is, established precedent is that kicks like that do not erase assists.
The only "schtick" being done here is by you. You know full well there is no meaningful difference between these plays, and you know full well that there is no justifiable reason for the assist to be removed in the Marner play. You've brought zero substantiation for either claim and zero examples of this not being an assist. They messed up when scoring the play. Plain and simple.
Not really sure what you're even saying in 90% of this, but the only one talking about conspiracies is you. They just simply messed up.
Again, what are you talking about? Nobody talked about conspiracies other than you. Opponents kicking at pucks and pucks hitting skates before goals has never removed assists. To help show this, I provided an example of a similar play that goes even further than the Marner play, where an opponent kicked a stationary puck out of the crease with a distinct kicking motion, and the assist chain still wasn't disrupted. Nobody has been able to provide any example of an assist chain being disrupted by such an act.
Except they very obviously did mess up.
You do realize that in-game referees are not assigning assists on scoring plays, right? It's just some guy that works for the league, and they are not infallible.
In both plays, a player purposefully kicks at the puck in between the pass and the goal, causing the puck to change direction away from a dangerous area, and towards an opposing player that quickly picks up the puck and scores. Literally the only difference is that the McDavid one takes place in the crease, and with a puck that's stationary, but that only makes it worse if anything. They messed up, plain and simple.
The video of the play I am describing was provided on the prior page. It is the same situation, and the only ways it is different make the McDavid one worse.
