Should Kinkaid start Monday night in Toronto?

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NJDevs26

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How many of those saying Devils should start Kinkaid (not a single minute of NHL experience) used to say Hedberg should start over Brodeur?

End of discussion...no.
 

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I voted yes.

He's done well in Albany and deserves a start in the bigs.

Plus, if Marty is not ready for Tuesday do we want Moose playing in back to back nights and 3 games in 4 days?
 

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Tom Gulitti ‏@TGfireandice
How many of those saying Devils should start Kinkaid (not a single minute of NHL experience) used to say Hedberg should start over Brodeur?

End of discussion...no.

Your opinion is end of discussion?
 

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Tom Gulitti ‏@TGfireandice
How many of those saying Devils should start Kinkaid (not a single minute of NHL experience) used to say Hedberg should start over Brodeur?

End of discussion...no.

Haha! Ain't that the truth. I still have been dying to hear the ''Hedberg and Marty should split starts'' crew, but they've all kept quiet.

Not saying you DD because I don't remember you particularly ever wanting Hedberg in over Marty. Though I do find it funny that after people wanted Hedberg to start over Brodeur, that people now want Keith Kinkaid to start over Hedberg.:laugh::laugh:
 

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**** it, why not. Lets see what the kid has. Moose will need a break at some point if Marty is not ready to come back yet.
 

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I mean yeah, if this Marty thing goes beyond Monday eventually Kinkaid will have to get a start, because they can't run another 39-year old goalie into the ground but I don't think Marty'll be out much longer so no point to it now. Just chain Moose to the crease, that's all I want to see.
 

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100% yes. He needs to play an NHL game at some point. Do it right now. Get the nerves out of the way, and see if he has a shining moment for one game where maybe next year he can go 20-30+.
 

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Honestly, why not? If the organization believes that he can be our future goaltender, why don't give it a shot? I'm with Cowbell here.
 

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I'd like to see him play but I don't know if this is the right time. He would be under some serious pressure. Could also be the perfect time since he might respond really well to that pressure and play the game of his life and prove that he can play in the NHL. He's gotta play some time so we can see if he's up to the task when the old guard retires.

As I said though, it's a big gamble.
 

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Hell yes this team needs a kick in the butt. a rookie goalie might actually make them decide to play some hockey
 

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He needs to play at least a game or two this season.

Why does he have to play a game this year? At earliest he's not going to be a regular on the Devils for another two years anyway, and no cameo appearance now is going to be indiciative of what happens in two years. You can always give him a game next year when Marty/Moose are hurt during an 82-game schedule. 48 games it's a little trickier to be getting cute.

100% yes. He needs to play an NHL game at some point. Do it right now. Get the nerves out of the way, and see if he has a shining moment for one game where maybe next year he can go 20-30+.

You do realize Moose is signed for a second year as well? Where is Kinkaid getting '20-30' starts next year, unless you're just assuming Marty/Moose will both break down for an extended period at the same time?
 

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I voted no, but changed by mind when I saw we play 3 in 4 days. It can't hurt to see what he's got.
 

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Why does he have to play a game this year? At earliest he's not going to be a regular on the Devils for another two years anyway, and no cameo appearance now is going to be indiciative of what happens in two years. You can always give him a game next year when Marty/Moose are hurt during an 82-game schedule. 48 games it's a little trickier to be getting cute.

Pretty much

We've got 2 goalies locked up for another year and a half so unless Moose gets bought out, traded - which is unlikely, or gets hurt long term, and unless Marty gets hurt long term - whether KK or any other rookie goalie gets a start here because of the need to get reps in isn't going to mean a thing because they won't be sniffing time until 2 seasons from now

That being said, would it hurt to give KK a start Monday? I don't believe so
 

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I'd love and hope for him to get a chance before he is brought up for good. However we can't afford to do it right now. It's like a high risk/high reward thing. It's too high of a risk to take right now though. However if Marty has a herniated disc (With how secretive our medical staff is who the hell knows?:laugh:) then we're gonna need some Kinkaid for some games.
 

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I voted no, but changed by mind when I saw we play 3 in 4 days. It can't hurt to see what he's got.

If Marty really is coming back soon Moose'll have plenty of time to rest up the rest of the month with only two more likely starts (back-to-back games).
 

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Start....Kinky...NOW. :rant:

I said it awhile back and I'll say it again. For whatever reason, Moose has lost his Mojo.


We need a spark and Kinkaid could provide it but only if he's given the opportunity to do so. You listening, Pete?
 

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ive said before but ive watched him a lot in albany, he has the ability to stand on his head when the team in front of him is actually playing hard, he makes those big saves to keep them going.

but when the team is playing like ****, he lets in a lot of really ****** goals. so basically he has the ability to be amazing or just "Kincave" over the course of the game.

still better then, "eyes shut save" Frazee
 

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Why does he have to play a game this year? At earliest he's not going to be a regular on the Devils for another two years anyway, and no cameo appearance now is going to be indiciative of what happens in two years. You can always give him a game next year when Marty/Moose are hurt during an 82-game schedule. 48 games it's a little trickier to be getting cute.

Because you need them to get their feet wet as early as possible. Just give him a taste. Evaluate where he's at and reward him for working his ass off to get here. Make him hungry.

No one is suggesting him to be the starter or anything ridiculous. Just play one game. But this is the perfect opportunity. What's the worst that can happen, we lose ANOTHER game? Oh ****. Who knows, maybe he stand on his head and boosts the teams morale.

It WAS they were locked up for two years. Now it's a year and a half. In a six weeks, it'll be just one year. He's already called up, already on the team, already sitting on the bench, Moose is playing poorly, and Marty isn't coming back any time soon

There's no risk, at all. If he sucks, who cares? It's his first NHL game, write it off. If he's great, it'll do give a huge boost to both his own confidence as he continues to grown, as well as the Big Boy Devils to spark them out of their slump.

Seriously, give me a valid reason NOT to start him. Because he's an unknown? So were Henrique, Larsson, Fayne, Clarkson, etc. This team is loaded with guys that came out of nowhere and established themselves. Because we might lose? We're comfortably in the top-8 with games in hand on both the teams ahead of and below us.

If we miss the playoffs because Keith Kinkaid plays one game, then we have bigger issues than Keith Kinkaid.
 

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Why does he have to play a game this year? At earliest he's not going to be a regular on the Devils for another two years anyway, and no cameo appearance now is going to be indiciative of what happens in two years. You can always give him a game next year when Marty/Moose are hurt during an 82-game schedule. 48 games it's a little trickier to be getting cute.



You do realize Moose is signed for a second year as well? Where is Kinkaid getting '20-30' starts next year, unless you're just assuming Marty/Moose will both break down for an extended period at the same time?

That is the unfortunate reality I think we're looking at...
 

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Seriously, give me a valid reason NOT to start him. Because he's an unknown? So were Henrique, Larsson, Fayne, Clarkson, etc. This team is loaded with guys that came out of nowhere and established themselves. Because we might lose? We're comfortably in the top-8 with games in hand on both the teams ahead of and below us.

If we miss the playoffs because Keith Kinkaid plays one game, then we have bigger issues than Keith Kinkaid.

I don't disagree with the second point...but the reality is you can't philosophically get too cute in a 48-game season. Yes we're still in a good position 'now' but that doesn't mean it'll stay that way the last twenty-five games. The cutoff line for the playoffs (in terms of points needed) always goes up in the second half.

It WAS they were locked up for two years. Now it's a year and a half. In a six weeks, it'll be just one year. He's already called up, already on the team, already sitting on the bench, Moose is playing poorly, and Marty isn't coming back any time soon

Right now that's a matter of opinion and if that's the case Kinkaid's playing at some point anyway. Moose isn't going to play twenty in a row. All the Devils have said is Marty's not playing Monday when he's eligible to come off IR. Odds are he wasn't playing both ends of a back-to-back anyway. I don't even see why there's a rush to play Kinkaid on Monday per se, if Marty isn't available Tuesday and it looks like he'll be out another couple weeks you can always play Kinkaid then at home for crying out loud.
 
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Wingman77

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Because you need them to get their feet wet as early as possible. Just give him a taste. Evaluate where he's at and reward him for working his ass off to get here. Make him hungry.

No one is suggesting him to be the starter or anything ridiculous. Just play one game. But this is the perfect opportunity. What's the worst that can happen, we lose ANOTHER game? Oh ****. Who knows, maybe he stand on his head and boosts the teams morale.

It WAS they were locked up for two years. Now it's a year and a half. In a six weeks, it'll be just one year. He's already called up, already on the team, already sitting on the bench, Moose is playing poorly, and Marty isn't coming back any time soon

There's no risk, at all. If he sucks, who cares? It's his first NHL game, write it off. If he's great, it'll do give a huge boost to both his own confidence as he continues to grown, as well as the Big Boy Devils to spark them out of their slump.

Seriously, give me a valid reason NOT to start him. Because he's an unknown? So were Henrique, Larsson, Fayne, Clarkson, etc. This team is loaded with guys that came out of nowhere and established themselves. Because we might lose? We're comfortably in the top-8 with games in hand on both the teams ahead of and below us.

If we miss the playoffs because Keith Kinkaid plays one game, then we have bigger issues than Keith Kinkaid.

Goalies are on the ice the entire game and are far more of a liability than a guy who is going to break in at 10 minutes or less a game regardless of how big of a prospect he may or may not be

Due to a combo of injuries at a position where we lack depth and poor play we've hit a slump which unless you are the Blackhawks can't be afforded during this short season due to more parity and we aren't sitting very comfortable right now - while we are 2 points from being tied for the division, 5 points separate teams 7-11 with us at 7 and 2 of those teams from 8-11 are in our division

With the logic of getting a rookie goalie a handful of ice time who won't see any significant time for another year and a half at least, we're more concerned with a rookie's development or hunger than we are stopping a skid that could harm our chances at the playoffs - there isn't any time to dick around, yes, 1 game is that important

I don't oppose him starting but there is just as big of a chance that he'll flunk that there is that he'll do well in that start and for the teams sake, another flunk isn't easily affordable right now especially if we lose tomorrow
 

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ive said before but ive watched him a lot in albany, he has the ability to stand on his head when the team in front of him is actually playing hard, he makes those big saves to keep them going.

but when the team is playing like ****, he lets in a lot of really ****** goals. so basically he has the ability to be amazing or just "Kincave" over the course of the game.

still better then, "eyes shut save" Frazee

Anyone but Frazee.. Not even sure why that guy is still a pro hockey player.. Every time I see him play he sucks
 
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