Should Carey Price’s number be retired?
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I think he was good maybe a HOF but I not sure he should get is number retired…
Yes. He was the franchise AND he was the best player in the world as a Hab. No other Hab since Roy can boast that. He fell short of a cup but that's not really on him.
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I don't have the list but there are a bunch of Habs' Hall of Famers who don't have their number retired.
Just a few that come to mind, Toe Blake, Georges Vezina and Bill Durnan were named among the greatest players of all time by the NHL and have not been recognized by the Habs.
The business of retiring Habs numbers, if it's to be fair to the past as well as the present, should be reviewed and not just a PR exercise, in my opinion.
Just a few that come to mind, Toe Blake, Georges Vezina and Bill Durnan were named among the greatest players of all time by the NHL and have not been recognized by the Habs.
The business of retiring Habs numbers, if it's to be fair to the past as well as the present, should be reviewed and not just a PR exercise, in my opinion.
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0 hurry.
When your absurd franchise won 24 championships the question is closer to who's next?
Put his name on the pile and imma be waiting he's done earning 10.5m looking at birds in the sky.
When your absurd franchise won 24 championships the question is closer to who's next?
Put his name on the pile and imma be waiting he's done earning 10.5m looking at birds in the sky.
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Koivu already got his night. If they were going to do it, it would have been on that night.
As for price, I'm going to let it stew for a few years. I'd be too biased right now.
He's definitely getting honored at minimum.
Speaking of being honored, markov should get his night too.
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Absolutely not.
As we enter a winning era, you'll see how miserable the previous one really was.
We will win a Cup or several and our goalie in each of those campaigns will look terrific, as they always do when they win the Cup. Several of our players will look phenomenal and make the "star" players of the drought eras look less good in comparison.
Price lost too many years to injury and a bad team ahead of him. He was a genuine superstar but that's not enough. Winning is a team sport and so is losing. He, Koivu, and Markov didn't win enough and when the generation of players comes around that does win, they'll shine brighter than the ones that did not.
To me it doesn't matter one bit to be the fattest hog on the farm if you're all covered in shit -- only winners should get their number retired.
As we enter a winning era, you'll see how miserable the previous one really was.
We will win a Cup or several and our goalie in each of those campaigns will look terrific, as they always do when they win the Cup. Several of our players will look phenomenal and make the "star" players of the drought eras look less good in comparison.
Price lost too many years to injury and a bad team ahead of him. He was a genuine superstar but that's not enough. Winning is a team sport and so is losing. He, Koivu, and Markov didn't win enough and when the generation of players comes around that does win, they'll shine brighter than the ones that did not.
To me it doesn't matter one bit to be the fattest hog on the farm if you're all covered in shit -- only winners should get their number retired.
Said no.....because I'm sick of retiring numbers. I like the idea of honouring players and their numbers with banners and statues and whatever....but taking a number out of circulation should only be done for the absolute best of the best....99 or 66 as an example. Stop watering it down.
Anyone who is the best player on your team for a decade should have their number retired, regardless of team success. Not sure how this is up for debate.
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Yes.
Let's face it - there hasn't been a jersey retirement level player since Roy left the team back in the 90s.
Carey Price was not only the best player for this franchise over that stretch, he was unanimously the best, if not always in the top 3 of goalies during his established NHL seasons.
He deserves it and we may not see anyone else deserving of it for a long time, too. Depending on how this build goes with Gorton and how good the talent is we acquired.
Let's face it - there hasn't been a jersey retirement level player since Roy left the team back in the 90s.
Carey Price was not only the best player for this franchise over that stretch, he was unanimously the best, if not always in the top 3 of goalies during his established NHL seasons.
He deserves it and we may not see anyone else deserving of it for a long time, too. Depending on how this build goes with Gorton and how good the talent is we acquired.
I get it. You look up at the rafters and there's a direct correlation between those retired numbers and the Cups they've won. But consider all the other retired names played with other retired names or Hall of Famers, which is why they won Cups. A lot of those guys weren't better players than Price, they just had the good fortune to play together on the same team. Price had Markov and Subban for a short time, both of whom were very good, but the rest of the roster was a revolving door of mid-tier talent. Patrick Roy's 1993 roster looks like an all-star team compared to Price's rosters from 2011 to 2021.
Price was the best in class for about eight years, he was our de facto leader and brought us close a couple of times. The teams he played with certainly don't deserve to be honoured, but he does. IMO, #31 should forever be his.
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No he doesn’t unfortunately. There are already too many retired jerseys at the club in my opinion. It should really be reserved for the best of the best. But regardless of that, he doesn’t have the one trophy that is the bare minimum for getting a number retired here. It’s not his fault, but it’s just the way it is.
WeThreeKings
Demidov is a HAB
If we had a McDavid level talent and he never won a cup, you still wouldn't retire their number?
Using a cup as the barometer for having a jersey retired isn't realistic.
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Subban was the best player and Halak stole his spot
He had 1 year where he was truly above everyone else. Not enough to get a jersey retirement in mtl
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But it is realistic for this franchise. It’s the norm. You don’t have to like it, but that’s what it is.
You retire Price, then you essentially have to retire Koivu. Then you likely have to retire Suzuki in 20 years and whoever else breaks out. It’s just a slippery slope that this franchise can’t go down because of precedent.
They just shot themselves in the foot by retiring guys like Lach and Butch Bouchard. That’s pretty much only because of team success. They don’t know what they are doing.
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Hockey is a team sport and being the best players on the best team is something. He's one of the best goalie of his era, but retiring a number is not about potential, it's about achievements.
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He doesnt deserve a jersey retirement. No one does deserve it. Its an honour that is given to the players that helped raise le flambeau bien haut.
Where was the flambeau with Price? Forgoten...
Players who dont put the canadiens as priority and have the audacity to tell everyone to chill and then not deliver should be banned from any jersey retirement conversation
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Demidov is a HAB
It was realistic for the franchise - it's not anymore. It's a situation where you may not ever retire another number and that's just silly. The game has changed, the amount of teams has changed, in some circumstances, the number of rounds has changed.
You don't have to retire Koivu and you don't have to retire Suzuki either.
Price has a Hart.
He has a Lindsay.
He has a Vezina.
He has multiple records as goaltender for the Montreal Canadiens franchise.
Koivu doesn't have any best of hardware. He doesn't have any Montreal Canadiens records.
Suzuki will unlikely have any of that either.
Price is a first ballot hall of famer. He is the best player over a 30 year stretch and legitimately has things to prove he's an all-time goalie in Montreal Canadiens history.
The flambeau was extinguished by the worst general manager in franchise history.
Sounds like you are taking his comments personally because you were someone who was treating him like shit online.
Price delivered. He dragged this sorry ass team and franchise under Bergevin's regime to multiple playoff appearances they didn't deserve. He won them playoff series they didn't deserve to win. He took them to precipice of a cup final once before Kreider killed his knee. He took them to a cup finals, the first cup finals since 93 pretty much on his back.
He earned it. He deserves it. That honor is his. Arguments against him is to apply a standard that is outdated. That's it.
I'd say your description applies more to Koivu, whose achievements never reached his potential because of injury and illness. We love Koivu, not because he achieved greatness, but because he has a great story of greatness that could've been.
Price actually achieved greatness. The debate is whether he should be penalized because his teams never did.
