Rumor: Shesterkin’s camp is aiming for a contract which would equate to a netminding record of $12.9M
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The Gr8 Dane
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Why should goalies who carry their teams take less?
Crease
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Igor deserves his bag, but if he wants that big of a bag he will likely be spending the rest of his career dragging a non-playoff team to 3rd or 4th place. And that’s if he’s earning his salary. Rangers went down this road with Lundqvist and they couldn’t get over the top because paying a goalie that much of the cap requires you to be perfect with every other contract, and that’s really hard to do.
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Daishi
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Can't pay him even 10m at that age and expect success in the near future.
So I fully expect Rangers to pay him 12.5 AAV until he's 42 or something.
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There's not a single goalie in this league I'd pay 10 million let alone 13 lmao.
The Gr8 Dane
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Dude your goalie just won a cup with a cap hit of basically 10 mill no? At least one of em
With a 92MM salary cap and a percentage of cap equal to Carey Price you land at 12.9MM. Price's deal ends after his 38 year old season. Everyone saying this ask is crazy should at least acknowledge this exact contract has been given out to an almost identical player in terms of age, position, and importance to his team.
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The issue is not whether a team has ever paid a goalie that much of the cap. The issue is whether it has ever worked out well for the team.
There is no way the Rangers should entertain this. I would hold at 9. If you can get more than that, go get your money. I don't have time for selfishness. Your life is no different at 12M than it is at 9M. Don't be a scumbag. If he insists at 12M+, then I hold at 4 years. No way you're getting that money for 8 years.
Why am I going to structure my team around what Carey Price got? The Habs didn't win anything. They didn't get any further than we did with Henrik. If anything, that's my argument as to why we don't give Igor that much money.
F Carey Price. I don't give a damn about how much money or what percentage he got. In the end it kept the Habs from winning and hurt the team. Giving Igor that will do the same thing here.
Teams have shown that you can win without a dominant goaltender if you have a roster that can put goals on the board.
The timelines don't work either. Igor is at the younger end of the roster. The rest of the core is at or over 30. You lock Igor up to that number for that long, you're gonna have a 12m goalie f***ing up your rebuild when you decide to start moving on from Bread, Zib, Kreider, etc.
The worst thing you can be in this league is mediocre. You either gotta be good or you gotta be bad. There is literally no reward for in between.
When Habs signed Carey Price to his huge contract - as habs fan I had absolutely no issue with it.
I had full faith Price would be great in playoffs when we needed him, and continue to be strong, reliable and consistent in the regular season.
Do Ranger fans feel as good about Shesterkin? From the outside looking in I'm thinking no, a lot riskier, but I don't watch him as closely.
I know with Price injuries happened - but you can't really predict those.
If this was Henrik during his prime - same idea, you do whatever it takes to tie him down.
I had full faith Price would be great in playoffs when we needed him, and continue to be strong, reliable and consistent in the regular season.
Do Ranger fans feel as good about Shesterkin? From the outside looking in I'm thinking no, a lot riskier, but I don't watch him as closely.
I know with Price injuries happened - but you can't really predict those.
If this was Henrik during his prime - same idea, you do whatever it takes to tie him down.
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Rangers being able to offer 8 years have an advantage here. 8 X $10.5 makes him $84,000,000. If he hits UFA a team would have to pay him 7 X $12 to make that money. If theyre dead set on $12.9, do we really think he’ll go to Utah for example for an extra $6 mill total? I think this gets done at 8 X $10.5
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The gulp may be even larger than you imagine with The Post having been told that Shesterkin’s camp is aiming for a contract under which the goaltender would start with 14 percent of the cap, which would equate to a netminding record of $12.9M under an expected $92M cap for 2025-26.
The cap hit would remain at $12.9M through the contract while the percentage would decline as the cap is expected to increase.
But that number seems untenable on a deal that would likely be seven or eight years and take Shesterkin — who has had two very uneven regular seasons following his 2021-22 Vezina — to age 36 or 37.
In fact, I’d suggest it would be untenable for the Rangers, GM Chris Drury and the hierarchy to enter the season with Shesterkin as a pending free agent.
This is something that needs to get done before the season.
If the goaltender’s camp is not amenable to that, the Rangers will have to investigate trade opportunities.
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Price and Lundqvist were 31 and 32 when their contracts kicked in. Shesterkin will 29/30. The over 30 retirement contracts are always a concern, but I feel like the risk goes up with goalies as they age out.
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Expected Jacob Trouba trade could have Patrick Kane ramifications
The Post has learned that Patrick Kane was still in talks Saturday with Detroit.
The gulp may be even larger than you imagine with The Post having been told that Shesterkin’s camp is aiming for a contract under which the goaltender would start with 14 percent of the cap, which would equate to a netminding record of $12.9M under an expected $92M cap for 2025-26.
The cap hit would remain at $12.9M through the contract while the percentage would decline as the cap is expected to increase.
But that number seems untenable on a deal that would likely be seven or eight years and take Shesterkin — who has had two very uneven regular seasons following his 2021-22 Vezina — to age 36 or 37.
In fact, I’d suggest it would be untenable for the Rangers, GM Chris Drury and the hierarchy to enter the season with Shesterkin as a pending free agent.
This is something that needs to get done before the season.
If the goaltender’s camp is not amenable to that, the Rangers will have to investigate trade opportunities.
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Looks like a player In a popular market on a contending (president trophy winning) team is looking for a contract at 14%
Wonder where he got that number?????
Now I don’t know that the goalie market supports that any more. But I guess NY isn’t a good market. Or they have bad leadership.
Saros is signing for 7.74.
Igor’s looking for 12.9.
Nothing to do with taxes. The Finnish guy just loves warm weather and country music
you wouldn't get what you expect. with the extension ask teams would treat him as a rental.lol if that's what his agent wants, let's trade him right f***ing now!
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The trade proposals made by Bern are going to be incredible.
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