Shea Theodore Out Until Playoffs

[Blueline Bomber]

If every team is allowed to do it, and they are then Vegas isn't breaking any rules.

Even if they were who cares it works.

But since every team is allowed to do it they aren't.

I'm surprised they haven't been defering money when doing contract extensions.

That would be a Vegas thing to do but Carolina did it first, then Toronto did it with McCabe.

So far Vegas hasn't done it which surprises me.

Technically, Arizona did it first for one of the Doan contracts. No one remembers though because it was in 2016.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Technically, Arizona did it first for one of the Doan contracts. No one remembers though because it was in 2016.

I certainly didn't remember it.

 

[K1984]

You can't LTIR just for the sake of doing so. The league has to sign off on it. If there were actually rule breaking and the league discovered that the team is misusing it the league will punish the team. So you can't say the league just will ignore it.

What’s more likely?

Every Vegas player that goes on LTIR every year is coincidentally healthy for Game 1 of the playoffs, not a day sooner or later, or that they have players that are healthy and eligible to play, but are instead burning the rest of the year off on LTIR?

If every team is allowed to do it, and they are then Vegas isn't breaking any rules.

Even if they were who cares it works.

But since every team is allowed to do it they aren't.

I'm surprised they haven't been defering money when doing contract extensions.

That would be a Vegas thing to do but Carolina did it first, then Toronto did it with McCabe.

So far Vegas hasn't done it which surprises me.

They’re pretty clearly breaking rules, but the league doesn’t care and isn’t willing to enforce them.

 

[PlayMakers]

What’s more likely?

Every Vegas player that goes on LTIR every year is coincidentally healthy for Game 1 of the playoffs, not a day sooner or later, or that they have players that are healthy and eligible to play, but are instead burning the rest of the year off on LTIR?

Ding ding ding we have a winner.

 

[Star Platinum]

If they exploit the loophole constantly, close the f***ing loophole.

 

[gstommylee]

What’s more likely?

Every Vegas player that goes on LTIR every year is coincidentally healthy for Game 1 of the playoffs, not a day sooner or later, or that they have players that are healthy and eligible to play, but are instead burning the rest of the year off on LTIR?



They’re pretty clearly breaking rules, but the league doesn’t care and isn’t willing to enforce them.

First of all the NHL won't let teams use LTIR just for the sake of using it. Second of all there has been ZERO rule breaking. What is actually rule breaking is putting a healthy guy on LTIR. No doctor would risk his medical lisence by making up an injury and lying to the league about it.

Ever consider that time line of injuries do happen to sometimes lineup to where the player is cleared to play when the playoffs happen. There is nothing against the rules of what vegas is doing. Injuries happen and the rules do ALLOW for a team to put a player on LTIR when they can't afford to replace the hurt player which AGAIN the NHL has to sign off on it and use that cap space to replace said player or add additional players to the roster to the max of that cap hit.


If NHL actually ingored abuse of LTIR and it comes back to find out that there being some legit case of medical forgery and made up reports just so teams can LTIR someone, there can be some very very huge legal immplications both against the league, team and the doctors. Medical fraud is very much ILLEGAL.

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

 

[MetalheadPenguinsFan]

 

[TheBeard]

What is actually rule breaking is putting a healthy guy on LTIR. No doctor would risk his medical lisence by making up an injury and lying to the league about it.

And no way the NHL would come out and insist a player come off LTIR if the club and their “doctors” deem it too early. The NHLPA would have a field day and the publicity would be awful.

 

[hangman005]

First of all the NHL won't let teams use LTIR just for the sake of using it. Second of all there has been ZERO rule breaking. What is actually rule breaking is putting a healthy guy on LTIR. No doctor would risk his medical lisence by making up an injury and lying to the league about it.

Ever consider that time line of injuries do happen to sometimes lineup to where the player is cleared to play when the playoffs happen. There is nothing against the rules of what vegas is doing. Injuries happen and the rules do ALLOW for a team to put a player on LTIR when they can't afford to replace the hurt player which AGAIN the NHL has to sign off on it and use that cap space to replace said player or add additional players to the roster to the max of that cap hit.


If NHL actually ingored abuse of LTIR and it comes back to find out that there being some legit case of medical forgery and made up reports just so teams can LTIR someone, there can be some very very huge legal immplications both against the league, team and the doctors. Medical fraud is very much ILLEGAL.

And notice the narative is always that the player stays "injured" until the end of the regular seasons, and not the player has returned early because playoffs.

 

[Bruce Granville]

And again the neutral fans are on the Oilers, Kings, Nucks and Flames bandwagon…

 

[Sergei Shirokov]

Only took 1 day for a Vegas injury to go from 'week-to-week' to out until playoffs. Someone must've slipped up with the initial report.

Good on them for continuing to exploit this loophole its just sad the league keeps playing favourites with them.

 

[12ozPapa]

No dog in this fight but it is getting quite silly how these Vegas players keep having injuries that keep them out until game 1 of the playoffs

 

[izzy]

This is getting to be a bit out of hand..

 

[wunderpanda]

everyone needs to stop being jealous of vegas and accept their business model best exploits the established system. be mad at your gm being too stupid to do the same thing. be mad you don't have the depth to pressbox a top player for months and not fall off. don't be mad at vegas for highlighting the incompetence you cheer for.

 

[LuGBuG]

Welcome to Vegas, Trevor Zegras

Not only are they not going to trade him. They certainly aren’t going to trade him in the division.

 

[ijuka]

What a coincidence that he will be all ready to go for the first playoff game.

everyone needs to stop being jealous of vegas and accept their business model best exploits the established system. be mad at your gm being too stupid to do the same thing. be mad you don't have the depth to pressbox a top player for months and not fall off. don't be mad at vegas for highlighting the incompetence you cheer for.

"breaking the rules through loopholes is fine because you could break them too"

 

[Random schmoe]

And notice the narative is always that the player stays "injured" until the end of the regular seasons, and not the player has returned early because playoffs.

I think the fundamental complaint is that if a player is healthy enough to play in the playoffs, they are also healthy enough to play in the regular season.

I hate that Vegas does this year after year, I think it's against the spirit of the rules. But, not the letter. They're likely* not breaking any of the rules. (*Assuming there are legitimate injuries and they're following the internal NHL protocols, which I'm sure is accurate.)

But I do believe personally that the rules should be changed to one of the countless options that have been proposed around here over the years. Not that my opinion means a damn thing.

 

[Blueline Bomber]

The thing is, they are legitimate injuries that put them on LTIR. That’s not the issue. The issue is that they likely stay on LTIR to exploit that loophole, even when the players have become healthy enough to play.

“But team doctors won’t risk medical license!” First, no one is taking a doctors medical license for exaggerating an injury for a professional team. Second, the doctors can get by the questionable ethics of it by stating the obvious: It’s late in the NHL season. It’s likely 85-90% of players are nursing SOME kind of injury by this point. So while the player may hit LTIR because of a serious injury, they can stay on LTIR because they’re not “healthy”, just like 85-90% of the league.