Proposal: Shattenkirk or Fowler to NJD

[tade]

After the Hall/Larsson trade and even with the Lovejoy signing the Devils still need help on the blueline. Badly.

Greene - Severson
Merrill - Lovejoy
Moore - Santini

I think Santini needs another year tops in the AHL, I'm not too trusting in Merrill's abilities and Moore was streaky last season. Not a fan of those lines as is. So, same proposal for both the Ducks and the Blues. Let me know how out to lunch I am.

2017 1st round pick
One of Reid Boucher/Joseph Blandisi

For either:
Kevin Shattenkirk or Cam Fowler

And for Shattenkirk I'd prefer if that came with an extension. Fowler I'm fairly certain has one year left after this upcoming season so that would give us something to work with.

Keep dreaming about that, lol.

 

[regulahbread]

What about Quenneville + 2017 1st? NJ would still probably have to add, but he's got more upside than either Boucher or Blandisi, IMO. Having Zacha and McLeod softens the blow of dealing JQ.

EDIT: Completely missed the post where someone asked the same exact question. Disregard my post.

 

[Eric Sachs]

Zacha for an extended Shattenkirk would be interesting. Not sure I'd do that from a Devils prospective but it would definitely be something to consider. The value is absolutely there, it's more about the general team direction, etc. I don't think we're at the point yet where we can trade kids for vets.

 

[Celtic Note]

The Blues are trying to compete, and the only reason they would take futures for a premium asset like Shattenkirk would be to get a future 1C. Otherwise, it's smarter to just keep Shatty for another run.

It really isn't smarter. But I agree that the return isn't enough to land him.

 

[5 14 6 1]

What about a deal around Hall for Larsson?

 

[Eric Sachs]

What about a deal around Hall for Larsson?

You're nuts.. Edmonton will have to add at least a 1st and decent prospect.

 

[SeidoN]

Zacha for an extended Shattenkirk would be interesting. Not sure I'd do that from a Devils prospective but it would definitely be something to consider. The value is absolutely there, it's more about the general team direction, etc. I don't think we're at the point yet where we can trade kids for vets.

Id love to bring in Shattenkirk but theres no way id give up Zacha

 

[Ducks in a row]

After the Hall/Larsson trade and even with the Lovejoy signing the Devils still need help on the blueline. Badly.

Greene - Severson
Merrill - Lovejoy
Moore - Santini

I think Santini needs another year tops in the AHL, I'm not too trusting in Merrill's abilities and Moore was streaky last season. Not a fan of those lines as is. So, same proposal for both the Ducks and the Blues. Let me know how out to lunch I am.

2017 1st round pick
One of Reid Boucher/Joseph Blandisi

For either:
Kevin Shattenkirk or Cam Fowler

And for Shattenkirk I'd prefer if that came with an extension. Fowler I'm fairly certain has one year left after this upcoming season so that would give us something to work with.

Where is the good win now piece coming to the Ducks for Fowler? No good win now piece no Fowler trade.

 

[FlipFlopPavelski]

Cam fowler is way too valuable for Anaheim to give up. They should give up Lindholm or someone else instead. Same with Shattenkirk, I'd rather that Shats over Pietrangelo or Parakyo

 

[JTRAIN1966]

Cam fowler is way too valuable for Anaheim to give up. They should give up Lindholm or someone else instead. Same with Shattenkirk, I'd rather that Shats over Pietrangelo or Parakyo

YEAH ! That Pietrangelo, & Parayko are definitely more expendable than, Shattenkirk . PLEASE Armstrong........don't make that mistake !

 

[2020 Cup Champions]

Hall should land a RHD

plus plus

 

[ChaseANA]

Cam fowler is way too valuable for Anaheim to give up. They should give up Lindholm or someone else instead. Same with Shattenkirk, I'd rather that Shats over Pietrangelo or Parakyo

Huh.

 

[Andre Palot]

Where is the good win now piece coming to the Ducks for Fowler? No good win now piece no Fowler trade.

I'll throw in a gently used Stephen Gionta & a 7th rounder.

 

[TopShelfWaterBottle]

Cam fowler is way too valuable for Anaheim to give up. They should give up Lindholm or someone else instead. Same with Shattenkirk, I'd rather that Shats over Pietrangelo or Parakyo

Lol is this a serious post?

 

[Ranksu]

I think NJ can go next off-season bidding war with entire league of Shattery. Then he's going to get big money.

 

[Baemon Severson*]

No interest in Fowler for what he's gonna cost.

 

[Group Chat Legend*]

No interest in Fowler for what he's gonna cost.

What if we take Stoner

 

[lindholmie]

What if we take Stoner

Then that lowers his value so nah

 

[Nocashstyle]

Not really an indictment, but Devil fans LOVE their own players.

Go back and look at the pre-trade Larsson threads. The general consensus was that he was worth more than Hall.

They don't like to talk about moving top prospects.

Thank goodness for them, their GM does not subscribe to the same philosophy.

I fully expect the Devils to be THE major destination for Shatt, and yes, one of their top prospects and a 1st or handful of top picks will be going the other way.

Devils will be setting themselves up to be a very good team.

I would love to see even one post that somehow equated that a "general consensus amongst Devils fans" is Larsson = Hall +.

Take your time. I know you'll be looking for a while.

 

[Eric Sachs]

I would love to see even one post that somehow equated that a "general consensus amongst Devils fans" is Larsson = Hall +.

Take your time. I know you'll be looking for a while.

I don't doubt it. Section32 is the world-renowned expert on Devils fans.. he spends most of his day reading about us and thinking about us.

If he says it happened, it probably did. The guy knows everything there is to know about Devils fans. A true legend.

 

[ghdi]

What about a deal around Hall for Larsson?

Sorry, no trade backs

 

[Stephen Gionta]

I think NJ can go next off-season bidding war with entire league of Shattery. Then he's going to get big money.

And NJ can outbid pretty much anyone with their insane cap space.

 

[Edmonton East]

Hate to break it to you, But none of those pieces are going to land you either one of Fowler or Shattenkirk tons of teams could beat this offer for either one.

Oh yes, because UFAs get maximum value. Okay.

Specifically Shattenkirk: Fine let him walk to FA and the Devils can get him for free. The overwhelming majority of teams won't have the cap to outbid the Devils. So, good luck.

 

[Edmonton East]

If the Blues are in the thick of the playoffs come deadline time, I doubt they have the balls to move him. So assuming that is the case, he either moves before the season starts or hits free agency next summer.

Now, if the Blues suck (which I don't see happening at all), then he will 100% be traded during the season.

 

[SpeakingOfTheDevils]

Quenneville + 2017 1st is the highest I'd go for Shattenkirk. Q is coming off a tremendous season, and projects to have a ceiling of a Henrique clone. I'm a huge fan, but McLeod immediately replaces his spot in the prospect depth chart.

If the Blues would rather do a one-for-one with Shattenkirk, we don't have anything to offer.