Rumor: Shattenkirk for Krejci?

[Flames Fanatic]

St. Louis adds a bit, but I can understand the interest from both parties if Shattenkirk can work out a deal with Boston.

If Krecji plays like his usual self in the playoffs that is a HUGE boost to the Blues.

 

[WesMcCauley]

Agree Shattenkirk would've to sign long term with Boston. And probably St Louis would need to add another player or so. Even Krejci is worth more then a just a resigned Shattenkirk.

Dont think the market agrees with you on that. Look at what Edm had to pay up for a RH defensemen who isnt close to as good as Shatty.

 

[BruinDust]

Also doesn't make sense to pay 3 centers over 6 million each with Spooner's contract coming up next year either.

Well if Backes is in the middle, Spooner isn't. They aren't going to run Bergeron-Krejci-Backes-Spooner down the middle. If Backes is playing RW, Spooner likely takes his place in the middle.

I have no problem with Boston paying all three of Bergeron-Krejci-Backes big money to play center. How is it any different than Pittsburgh shelling out big money for Crosby-Malkin-Kessel to play on 3 separate lines? It's not.

 

[PatrikOverAuston]

Dont think the market agrees with you on that. Look at what Edm had to pay up for a RH defensemen who isnt close to as good as Shatty.

Yeah, I think a (signed) Shattenkirk for Krejci is about bang-on and helps both clubs significantly.

 

[Skinnyjimmy08]

I love it for both teams, but IMO Krejci's injuries situation needs to be considered... both hips have been worked on and its always been questioned if he will be the same. I know people say Blues need to add, but I think Bruins are the ones that may need to add. Blues are taking a risk by trading this big trade piece for Krejci

a 30 year old with 2 major hip surgery's and a past shoulder injury, knee injury and other ailments is a red flag. If he comes back healthy as ever and plays a few more years injury free then this is a steal for the Blues, if not, then its a disaster for Blues

 

[BruinDust]

Dont think the market agrees with you on that. Look at what Edm had to pay up for a RH defensemen who isnt close to as good as Shatty.

Who cares what Chiarelli paid to get Larsson. Larsson wasn't even available, and Edmonton basically made NJ an offer they couldn't refuse. That trade in no way set the marketplace.

And Larsson in some ways is the better D-man than Shattenkirk. And younger. And signed to a cheap long-term contract.

 

[BruinLVGA]

Dont think the market agrees with you on that. Look at what Edm had to pay up for a RH defensemen who isnt close to as good as Shatty.

The Chiarelli factor weighed HEAVILY in... And we Bruins fans do very well know what we are talking about, when that is concerned,,,

 

[xECK29x]

Buccigross is a weird source, definite ESPN and league connections, especially for College hockey. However is twitter is kinda weird, he tweets and hits up hot girls wearing his clothing line all the time.

 

[armani]

Great deal for STL if true.

 

[TheGroceryStick]

The + will only be a cond. pick (which wont be met) Boston will sign KS.

 

[Dbrownss]

Krejci isn't my ideal target, but I won't cry if a deal happens. I don't Shattenkirk++ for Krejci+

 

[Chojin]

Obviously, Shattenkirk would have to come with an extension, but even then there would be challenges. For one, Krejci has a full NMC, so he'd have to agree to any trade, but I'm not sure he has any reason to. He's in a pretty great spot in Boston, as he'll be deployed in an offensive role with Bergeron and Backes taking all the hard minutes, whereas in St. Louis, he'd be counted on to play harder minutes.

Then there's the salary problem. The Blues are right up against the cap this season, and Boston would have to fit in an extended Shattenkirk along with extensions for Marchand, Spooner, and Pastrnak next year. You can help things a bit by sending Boston a player with another year on his contract (probably Sobotka) so that they have more flexibility near year, but they'd still be in trouble.

Assuming Boston has some plan to get under the cap for 2017-18, I could see something like Shattenkirk and Sobotka for Krejci, give or take some picks. But I still think the chances of Krejci waiving his NMC to go to St. Louis are negligible.

 

[BruinDust]

Obviously, Shattenkirk would have to come with an extension, but even then there would be challenges. For one, Krejci has a full NMC, so he'd have to agree to any trade, but I'm not sure he has any reason to. He's in a pretty great spot in Boston, as he'll be deployed in an offensive role with Bergeron and Backes taking all the hard minutes, whereas in St. Louis, he'd be counted on to play harder minutes.

Then there's the salary problem. The Blues are right up against the cap this season, and Boston would have to fit in an extended Shattenkirk along with extensions for Marchand, Spooner, and Pastrnak next year. You can help things a bit by sending Boston a player with another year on his contract (probably Sobotka) so that they have more flexibility near year, but they'd still be in trouble.

Assuming Boston has some plan to get under the cap for 2017-18, I could see something like Shattenkirk and Sobotka for Krejci, give or take some picks. But I still think the chances of Krejci waiving his NMC to go to St. Louis are negligible.

You got no worries about Sobotka coming back to Boston. He'd probably bolt back to he KHL rather than play for the Bruins and Julien again.

 

[FLYLine27*]

A lot to give up for a player who will only play for a season with the team.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Dont think the market agrees with you on that. Look at what Edm had to pay up for a RH defensemen who isnt close to as good as Shatty.

Chiarelli isn't a typical GM either.

 

[Frenzy31]

My thoughts on this are pretty simple. First it would have to be a larger deal and involve either Berglund or Lehtera and Miller from the Bruins. Due to cap.

Having said that, Boston may just view Backes as a replacement winger for Loui.E. In which case no reason to move DK.

Armstong has also been adverse to long term contracts: he likes shorter deals. So DK's contract may be hard to swallow for him.

I could see a total future deal. Boston has tons of pieces that they could move without missing a beat.

 

[HockeyMomx2]

Buccigross is a tool.

But I'd like to see this trade happen.

Um no, he's really not and he has some pretty credible sources where he gets his info from. Not as discerning with its release with it as Dom is so he sometimes puts stuff out before it's really confirmed but for most part has it right more often than not.

 

[HockeyMomx2]

I love it for both teams, but IMO Krejci's injuries situation needs to be considered... both hips have been worked on and its always been questioned if he will be the same. I know people say Blues need to add, but I think Bruins are the ones that may need to add. Blues are taking a risk by trading this big trade piece for Krejci

a 30 year old with 2 major hip surgery's and a past shoulder injury, knee injury and other ailments is a red flag. If he comes back healthy as ever and plays a few more years injury free then this is a steal for the Blues, if not, then its a disaster for Blues

You didn't see much of him last season did you? He hasn't looked this good and skated as fast as he did since before the first hip injury, never mind the 2nd. He's got robo-hips now and they serve him very, very well. I would much rather have Spooner be the main Boston piece than Krejci, but they'd have to add a lot more if he's the main piece I think.

 

[Tim Vezina Thomas]

Krejci for a signed Shattenkirk I do any day of the week and twice on sundays.

My only worry is that would likely put a heavier burden on Spooner to play more PP minutes.

 

[SPV]

A few of us have figured that Sweeney is waiting for the Vesey situation to resolve, and then will be moving one of Krejci or Spooner for a defenseman.

My concern with moving Krejci, is that then either Spooner has to move up, or Backes plays the 2 center; but that leaves a hole on the right side; unless they DO sign Vesey and he or Vatrano can play the right side. I guess if Berglund or Lehtera come as a cap dump, they can play center and Backes can stay on right wing.


I'm fine with the value though; assuming there is some assurance that Shattenkirk will re-sign in Boston.

 

[bleedblue1223]

My guess is if Vesey signs, Boston trades Spooner+(+) for an extended Shattenkirk.

 

[Tim Vezina Thomas]

A few of us have figured that Sweeney is waiting for the Vesey situation to resolve, and then will be moving one of Krejci or Spooner for a defenseman.

My concern with moving Krejci, is that then either Spooner has to move up, or Backes plays the 2 center; but that leaves a hole on the right side; unless they DO sign Vesey and he or Vatrano can play the right side. I guess if Berglund or Lehtera come as a cap dump, they can play center and Backes can stay on right wing.


I'm fine with the value though; assuming there is some assurance that Shattenkirk will re-sign in Boston.

Logically that would make sense. I suspect that if this happens before then a little birdie has told Sweeney that Vesey is going to be a Bruin.

 

[Tim Vezina Thomas]

My guess is if Vesey signs, Boston trades Spooner+(+) for an extended Shattenkirk.

What would this + be? Just curious.

 

[bleedblue1223]

What would this + be? Just curious.

I'd think Army would want prospect+pick or defensive replacement+prospect/pick. I don't know your prospects values enough to make a good determination there though. I'd say Spooner is the Martin Jones equivalent to the Lucic trade, but still kind of hard to compare their values.

 

[Sens]

It makes sense if they plan to sign Vesey