Sharks eliminate Avalanche

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mooncalf

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i'm thinking once he commits to the line change, the change rule applies and not the tag up rule. otherwise he would still be active on the ice and it would be too much man.
That may be how they interpreted it. I'm a lawyer and don't think that is how I would parse the rule, but it's fuzzy.
 

Grigowski

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First of all: Congrats to the San Jose Sharks.

Although some, at least, very "questionable" (I don´t want to start another disussion about wrong calls etc...) calls in this game we have to admit that we went 2 for 24 on our PP the whole series. That´s something we have to work on next season. I wouldn´t say the better team won, i would say the "smarter" team. The AVS still have to learn that.
 

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Obviously tough to lose in game 7 on a really controversial call but it’s hard to be mad as an Avs fan as the team was kind of playing with house money these playoffs. The team had 7 games to beat San Jose, one call didn’t make this series just like it didn’t make the Vegas series. Hoping Joe can finally get that ring.
 

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The Avs are such a great team. I love your coach, I love your players and, for the most part, the fans are awesome. You guys are going to be a pain in the ass moving on and I foresee a cup in your near future.

Great series. Fun series. Good hockey by both sides. Thanks for the good time.
 

Alwalys

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That may be how they interpreted it. I'm a lawyer and don't think that is how I would parse the rule, but it's fuzzy.
welp then they made the explanation above and that's in question now. the interesting line is the part about consulting with the linesman.

anyway questionable call or not, so be it. past sharks teams would give up the next goal anyway and it would be disgusting. this one may be different.
 

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It was a millimeter decision. Once there is room for discussion, there is a good chance that it was within the rule. Still disappointing for the team getting called.
 

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I think our fanbases mostly like and respect each other. This was a great series, super clean and high skill. And the Avs fans are being much more gracious about the controversial offside call than a lot of us probably would be lol :)

My opinion on it is that I would be upset if that happened to the Sharks. I think he was probably offside, but I don't think it was conclusive.
Neither the Sharks nor their fans made the call, so...
 

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Im hearing alot of rule bending going around here. People questioning whether or not he touched the blue line means f all. He needs to be on the other side of the line to clear the zone, not just touching it. The blue line is not in some super state where its two things here people. You're either over the line or you're not...and it works both ways, either entering or exiting the zone.

Thats how real hockey is played and I dont know where these false rules are coming from
 

Mighty Makar

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Im hearing alot of rule bending going around here. People questioning whether or not he touched the blue line means f all. He needs to be on the other side of the line to clear the zone, not just touching it. The blue line is not in some super state where its two things here people. You're either over the line or you're not...and it works both ways, either entering or exiting the zone.

Thats how real hockey is played and I dont know where these false rules are coming from
Yep! Rules are rules. I’m sure if it was the other way, Avs’ fans wouldn’t mind. Sad beers!
 

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Im hearing alot of rule bending going around here. People questioning whether or not he touched the blue line means f all. He needs to be on the other side of the line to clear the zone, not just touching it. The blue line is not in some super state where its two things here people. You're either over the line or you're not...and it works both ways, either entering or exiting the zone.

Thats how real hockey is played and I dont know where these false rules are coming from
Right?! People are making it sound like all you gotta do is touch the blue line then you can cherry pick towards the net before the puck actually enters the zone.
 

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Im hearing alot of rule bending going around here. People questioning whether or not he touched the blue line means f all. He needs to be on the other side of the line to clear the zone, not just touching it. The blue line is not in some super state where its two things here people. You're either over the line or you're not...and it works both ways, either entering or exiting the zone.

Thats how real hockey is played and I dont know where these false rules are coming from

Well.... they're getting it from the NHL rulebook.

Maybe if you understood the actual rulebook instead of telling the people posting the actual rule that it means f all.

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http://www.nhl.com/nhl/en/v3/ext/rules/2018-2019-NHL-rulebook.pdf

"All players of the offending team clear the zone at the same instant (skate contact with the blue line) permitting the attacking players to re-enter the attacking zone"

Skate contact with the blue line is enough to tag up in the NHL, according to their rule book. I don't know where your false rules are coming from though. Shoot me a link though, would love to see it.

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At this point it's whatever.

Don't agree with the call reversal personally. At least based on the evidence available / that has been shown, the league might have different or better quality shots that they haven't released. What I've seen hasn't been enough to overturn the on ice call (at least in my opinion).

There was time for Colorado to even the game afterwards, they didn't. It's an unfortunate ending to the season, but an enjoyable run. The call didn't decide the series (although it still stings)
 

Mighty Makar

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Just a lazy play by Landy and he knows it
Yep! In his defense, the top line played a ton of minutes. Someone on the bench could have opened the door for him. I play hockey myself and something similar happened to me. I skated to the bench after a whistle and I was tired as f*** and skated slow to the bench. Ref said nope, get back on the ice and line up. f*** sakes. Lol.
 
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Alwalys

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landeskog wasn't in that condition for no reason. the sharks just shelled them for a huge part of the game while fighting them every step of the way leading into game 7. guy was rightfully gassed and really didn't expect the puck to turn over like that given how good goodrow's possession was. i mean he was just about tripped to get that turnover, it was a really unlikely turnover.
 

HansonBro

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Well.... they're getting it from the NHL rulebook.

Maybe if you understood the actual rulebook instead of telling the people posting the actual rule that it means f all.

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http://www.nhl.com/nhl/en/v3/ext/rules/2018-2019-NHL-rulebook.pdf

"All players of the offending team clear the zone at the same instant (skate contact with the blue line) permitting the attacking players to re-enter the attacking zone"

Skate contact with the blue line is enough to tag up in the NHL, according to their rule book. I don't know where your false rules are coming from though. Shoot me a link though, would love to see it.

Edit:

At this point it's whatever.

Don't agree with the call reversal personally. At least based on the evidence available / that has been shown, the league might have different or better quality shots that they haven't released. What I've seen hasn't been enough to overturn the on ice call (at least in my opinion).

There was time for Colorado to even the game afterwards, they didn't. It's an unfortunate ending to the season, but an enjoyable run. The call didn't decide the series (although it still stings)
While I applaud your rule looking up abilities thats just not how hockey is played. Any real hockey player knows this and plays by the standard I outlined. Landeskog included
 

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landeskog wasn't in that condition for no reason. the sharks just shelled them for a huge part of the game while fighting them every step of the way leading into game 7. guy was rightfully gassed and really didn't expect the puck to turn over like that given how good goodrow's possession was. i mean he was just about tripped to get that turnover, it was a really unlikely turnover.
The whole Sharks team was gassed going into the final period. Colorado completely dominated the final 20 minutes. Once again, if Colorado had not made the mistake of screwing up the line change on what would have made it a 3-3 tie, the Avs probably would ahve finished the Sharks off in OT. I have no horse in the race either, as my team was knocked out.

Having said that, congrats to the Sharks and I look forward to the Western Conference Final.
 

JoeThorntonsRooster

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The whole Sharks team was gassed going into the final period. Colorado completely dominated the final 20 minutes. Once again, if Colorado had not made the mistake of screwing up the line change on what would have made it a 3-3 tie, the Avs probably would ahve finished the Sharks off in OT. I have no horse in the race either, as my team was knocked out.

Having said that, congrats to the Sharks and I look forward to the Western Conference Final.

The play on the line change would have made it a 2-2 tie. It was 2-1 after that play and the Sharks scored the next goal.

We also have no idea how the Sharks would have responded after that. We do know that the Sharks had previously blown a 2-0 lead in this series and then scored the game winning goal quickly after so it’s impossible and just frankly disingenuous to say that Colorado would probably have finished off the Sharks if the game was 2-2 at that point.
 
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bluesfan94

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Im hearing alot of rule bending going around here. People questioning whether or not he touched the blue line means f all. He needs to be on the other side of the line to clear the zone, not just touching it. The blue line is not in some super state where its two things here people. You're either over the line or you're not...and it works both ways, either entering or exiting the zone.

Thats how real hockey is played and I dont know where these false rules are coming from
The NHL rulebook primarily.
 

Danish Pastry

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Congrats to voth teams great close and even series... i dont k ow how many hige saves both goalies made but damn there werent too many softies... glad mackinnon came back would have been a terrible night if he couldnt play
 
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