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There would also be a golden opportunity to call another Sharks prospect Shakira, that's a good friend of Askarov... Hmm
yea but....
Shakira Sharkira........
There would also be a golden opportunity to call another Sharks prospect Shakira, that's a good friend of Askarov... Hmm
Dammit you beat me to ityea but....
Shakira Sharkira........
If Sharkira isn't good enough to beat out our stable of goaltenders by the end of the 2026-27 season, he'll have busted. If we had better goalies to beat out, then maybe there'd be a justifiable reason for him to still be a backup or AHL goalie, but not with this squad.Getting past my apprehension of trading a 1st for goalie due to past experience, I don't like the 2yr term.
It's as if Askarov is telling GMMG he must be the starter before the end of the contract. Otherwise he'll take his pads and go somewhere else.
I don't know how you came to this conclusion.Getting past my apprehension of trading a 1st for goalie due to past experience, I don't like the 2yr term.
It's as if Askarov is telling GMMG he must be the starter before the end of the contract. Otherwise he'll take his pads and go somewhere else.
He likely would have gotten a similar contract offer from someone else just on perceived potential. I think the extension is more meant to show good faith and that they're committed to him after feeling like he got the rug pulled out from under in him with Nashville.The extension was intended to give Askarov financial security in case he doesn't end up playing enough NHL games this season to earn that kind of a raise.
It also can help put him at ease about playing in the AHL this year knowing he already has his 1way NHL deal. He can room with Muk and play on the Cuda together for most of the year.He likely would have gotten a similar contract offer from someone else just on perceived potential. I think the extension is more meant to show good faith and that they're committed to him after feeling like he got the rug pulled out from under in him with Nashville.
Muk should beyond playing full time AHL this year, if not he is close to being out of the league. This is going to be his 5th pro season since he was drafted, having a handful of NHL games only under his belt by now is already a bad sign.It also can help put him at ease about playing in the AHL this year knowing he already has his 1way NHL deal. He can room with Muk and play on the Cuda together for most of the year.
If he doesn't stick in the lineup by the end of the season, I'll agree with you. A certain amount of late blooming is totally fine, but if he doesn't build on the great AHL showing last season and show he can hang at least post-TDL, it'll be time to be concerned.Muk should beyond playing full time AHL this year, if not he is close to being out of the league. This is going to be his 5th pro season since he was drafted, having a handful of NHL games only under his belt by now is already a bad sign.
Once again though, the same thing that applies to Sharkira applies to Mukhamadullin. There is almost no real competition for your spot. If you're anything at all, you should be in the NHL this year on this team. Win a spot and prove you're worth investing in.If he doesn't stick in the lineup by the end of the season, I'll agree with you. A certain amount of late blooming is totally fine, but if he doesn't build on the great AHL showing last season and show he can hang at least post-TDL, it'll be time to be concerned.
I think we're saying the same thing.Once again though, the same thing that applies to Sharkira applies to Mukhamadullin. There is almost no real competition for your spot. If you're anything at all, you should be in the NHL this year on this team. Win a spot and prove you're worth investing in.
If Sharkira isn't good enough to beat out our stable of goaltenders by the end of the 2026-27 season, he'll have busted. If we had better goalies to beat out, then maybe there'd be a justifiable reason for him to still be a backup or AHL goalie, but not with this squad.
Once again though, the same thing that applies to Sharkira applies to Mukhamadullin. There is almost no real competition for your spot. If you're anything at all, you should be in the NHL this year on this team. Win a spot and prove you're worth investing in.
Things that make you say,”Hmm.”I've hated the way this narrative has come about, because it was pretty predictable. This board was convinced that stuffing the Sharks roster with marginal NHLers so that the young guys could develop in the AHL/not be affected by losing culture/whatever. Now naturally it's a couple years later and people are going "Wow, they didn't get into any NHL games, that's very concerning." Is it?
How was Muk supposed to get into games last season? We started off with I think eight defensemen in the NHL and then just continued adding, if anything. The guy is 22 and has been in North America for one full season. He did very well. Then meanwhile the forward group had guys like Labanc, Barabanov, Hoffman, who contributed mostly nothing but we had to keep playing them, for what, potential trade value? I saw no indication whatsoever that the front office had any interest in playing our youth last season. I'm hoping that changes this year with the arrival of Celebrini/Smith.
Because he's a much funnier character than we've ever had beforeMukhamadullin is the key to all of this
if they can just get him working...
This is a fair take, I'm only saying that if he doesn't look as good or better than last year in the AHL, it's a stagnation that starts to haircut his likely upside. And I still think that we'd really prefer to see him step into the big club post TDL and play regular minutes -- and if he's doing that (which given his short stint last year I think he's quite capable of and won't get caved in on the 3rd pairing), then, great, he's still on track for middle pair.Mukhamadullin turns 23 years old in January, this is by no means a make-or-break season, I'm not overly concerned if he isn't full time in the NHL this year
There's a case to be made it's better for his long term development for him to play 23 minutes a night in the AHL rather than getting crushed on the bottom pair of a terrible defensive team that will be in the basement of the NHL
I won't be worried about him unless he isn't establishing himself as a regular by the end of the 2025-26 season
I basically agree with all of thisThis is a fair take, I'm only saying that if he doesn't look as good or better than last year in the AHL, it's a stagnation that starts to haircut his likely upside. And I still think that we'd really prefer to see him step into the big club post TDL and play regular minutes -- and if he's doing that (which given his short stint last year I think he's quite capable of and won't get caved in on the 3rd pairing), then, great, he's still on track for middle pair.
If he regresses and/or completely shits the bed in limited time on NHL ice, it's time to start pruning his tree of potential outcomes. Not to say he's washed, but some sort of breakout will be far less likely.
I'm talking about this year, not last year. Him playing in the AHL was fine last year. Now it's time to take on a tougher challenge and show you're up to it.I've hated the way this narrative has come about, because it was pretty predictable. This board was convinced that stuffing the Sharks roster with marginal NHLers so that the young guys could develop in the AHL/not be affected by losing culture/whatever. Now naturally it's a couple years later and people are going "Wow, they didn't get into any NHL games, that's very concerning." Is it?
How was Muk supposed to get into games last season? We started off with I think eight defensemen in the NHL and then just continued adding, if anything. The guy is 22 and has been in North America for one full season. He did very well. Then meanwhile the forward group had guys like Labanc, Barabanov, Hoffman, who contributed mostly nothing but we had to keep playing them, for what, potential trade value? I saw no indication whatsoever that the front office had any interest in playing our youth last season. I'm hoping that changes this year with the arrival of Celebrini/Smith.
My expectations are competent NHL defenseman. He doesn't have enough offensive skill to be more than that. If everything works out perfectly for him, maybe he's a second pairing defensive defenseman in the NHL, but I'm just looking for a guy who's competent, effective defensively, not shy about using his body when needed, and responsible in his own zone with the puck. Expecting more than that seems foolhardy - he doesn't have the track record of a guy who is capable of more than that.I basically agree with all of this
I'll be honest that I'm not particularly high on Mukhamadullin as a prospect so I probably don't have the same expectations that some on this board seem to have, he's not a no-doubt NHLer in my eyes, so I'm more than willing to play the long game with him, he's still a work-in-progress
I kind of disagree with this assessment given what I/we know about the kid. He's a 6'4" noodle with some offensive capabilities. It's more like he's a PP2 guy, potentially... rangy and skates well for his size but doesn't necessarily use his size as much as he could... like a nerfed Dickinson. I wouldn't say he's profiling as a defensive D, more like a sort of solid middle pair 2-way D or a really solid 3rd pairing 2-way D who can play PP2 in a pinch.My expectations are competent NHL defenseman. He doesn't have enough offensive skill to be more than that. If everything works out perfectly for him, maybe he's a second pairing defensive defenseman in the NHL, but I'm just looking for a guy who's competent, effective defensively, not shy about using his body when needed, and responsible in his own zone with the puck. Expecting more than that seems foolhardy - he doesn't have the track record of a guy who is capable of more than that.