Confirmed with Link: Sharks acquire Timothy Liljegren from Maple Leafs for Matt Benning, conditional 3rd and 6th

[themelkman]

Thanks Matt Benning. You were the Luke Kunin of Sharks defensemen. Have a blast in Toronto.

No need to insult Benning like that, he actually could play at one point

 

[Ciao]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1852125796003127773

The Sharks made a good deal for Liljegren.

He's a good player with substantial upside. You will like his play.

I have a lot more confidence in Liljegren than I do in Treliving or Berube.

 

[Juxtaposer]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1852939943259369878

Didn't see this posted yet, but Liljegren with extremely strong underlying numbers in his first game. Always a good sign when a guy who was a healthy scratch on another team comes in and is immediately your best defenseman.

 

[Lebanezer]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1852939943259369878

Didn't see this posted yet, but Liljegren with extremely strong underlying numbers in his first game. Always a good sign when a guy who was a healthy scratch on another team comes in and is immediately your best defenseman.

Post in thread 'Game 13: Sharks vs. Canucks 7:00pm NBCSCA'
GDT: - Game 13: Sharks vs. Canucks 7:00pm NBCSCA

 

[Juxtaposer]

Post in thread 'Game 13: Sharks vs. Canucks 7:00pm NBCSCA'
GDT: - Game 13: Sharks vs. Canucks 7:00pm NBCSCA

I don't go into GDTs post-game if I'm mad about how the game ended.

 

[landshark]

I don't go into GDTs post-game if I'm mad about how the game ended.

I always do. It's fun!

 

[tiburon12]

I asked my swedish buddy and he thinks it's this: Lil-ye-GREN, with (critically) a distinct-but-super-soft J sound on the second syllable and a rolling R sound at the end.

 

[Barrie22]

I asked my swedish buddy and he thinks it's this: Lil-ye-GREN, with (critically) a distinct-but-super-soft J sound on the second syllable and a rolling R sound at the end.

How is this still a ongoing debate? The swedish player that owns the name, has stated how it is pronounced a week ago when he first joined the sharks.

 

[Cas]

How is this still a ongoing debate? The swedish player that owns the name, has stated how it is pronounced a week ago when he first joined the sharks.

This is America, where we tell foreigners how to spell and pronounce their names.

Sincerely, a descendent of immigrants from Europe whose name got butchered at Ellis Island (and who regularly gets his other family name misspelled, despite being one of some prominence in American history).

 

[tiburon12]

How is this still a ongoing debate? The swedish player that owns the name, has stated how it is pronounced a week ago when he first joined the sharks.

From what I understand from my swedish friends is that Swedes often give "americanized" versions of their names to make it easier to pronounce. For example, I have a friend named Anders. To non-swedes, he'll say his name is "AEN-ders" or "AHN-ders", but to swedes they know it's "AN-Daers".

Tons of people do this. Here is Pasta saying his name like an American to an American:

and here is him saying that he says it differently to Americans vs how to say it correctly:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1847659890644271106

 

[Barrie22]

From what I understand from my swedish friends is that Swedes often give "americanized" versions of their names to make it easier to pronounce. For example, I have a friend named Anders. To non-swedes, he'll say his name is "AEN-ders" or "AHN-ders", but to swedes they know it's "AN-Daers".

Tons of people do this. Here is Pasta saying his name like an American to an American:

and here is him saying that he says it differently to Americans vs how to say it correctly:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1847659890644271106

But this isn’t him saying it for the first time, the media for the past 7 years have been saying it wrong and he is just now correcting it to the way he wants it said.

 

[tiburon12]

But this isn’t him saying it for the first time, the media for the past 7 years have been saying it wrong and he is just now correcting it to the way he wants it said.

https://x.com/i/web/status/1852523708524716141

are you referencing this video? He says his first name like an American would, not like a swede would.



^This is an actual swede pronouncing it in Swedish to him.

I get what you're saying but I know first hand so many Euros who "americanize" their names to be easier to pronounce.

 

[hotcabbagesoup]

From what I understand from my swedish friends is that Swedes often give "americanized" versions of their names to make it easier to pronounce. For example, I have a friend named Anders. To non-swedes, he'll say his name is "AEN-ders" or "AHN-ders", but to swedes they know it's "AN-Daers".

Tons of people do this. Here is Pasta saying his name like an American to an American:

and here is him saying that he says it differently to Americans vs how to say it correctly:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1847659890644271106

TOE_MASHHHH-HAIR_TALLLLLLL

We've been pronouncing it wrong this whole time.

Also:

FAWWBIAN SETTERLOONED

 

[Barrie22]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1852523708524716141

are you referencing this video? He says his first name like an American would, not like a swede would.



^This is an actual swede pronouncing it in Swedish to him.

I get what you're saying but I know first hand so many Euros who "americanize" their names to be easier to pronounce.

They say it the exact same way. Just one says it with a heavier accent. But the way he introduces himself in that video is not how the media had been pronouncing it for the past 7 years.

And the swedish journalist didn't actually use his full first name, he said timo.

 

[DG93]

From what I understand from my swedish friends is that Swedes often give "americanized" versions of their names to make it easier to pronounce. For example, I have a friend named Anders. To non-swedes, he'll say his name is "AEN-ders" or "AHN-ders", but to swedes they know it's "AN-Daers".

Tons of people do this. Here is Pasta saying his name like an American to an American:

and here is him saying that he says it differently to Americans vs how to say it correctly:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1847659890644271106

Some Russians should be on this list...the Kovalchuk butchering for years was cringe. For example, Askarov is not "ASS-ka-rov"

 

[tiburon12]

They say it the exact same way. Just one says it with a heavier accent. But the way he introduces himself in that video is not how the media had been pronouncing it for the past 7 years.

And the swedish journalist didn't actually use his full first name, he said timo.

Nah he clearly says Timothy. Move it to 0.75 speed, it's easier to hear.

And accent is actually the difference we are talking about here, and is what makes something correct or not. One is saying the name in an American accent and the other is saying it in the native accent.

 

[Sandisfan]

I fully understand wanting to hear these names as Americanized and it is easier on the ears for me. As and example I watch many, many days of Road race cycling Grand tours (tour de France Giro d Italia and Vueulta a Espania) shorter stage races and One Day races and while listening there is a Female commentator who speaks perfect Flandrian and I appreciate how she says names and place names as the Natives do... But after a while when she talks using that almost clearing of the throat in many names it becomes annoying though she speaks properly. When others who host and comment use Anglicized/Americanized pronunciations it is easier to listen to. I say that You should say each persons name as they want but that doesn't mean the listener would prefer that pronunciation.

 

[tiburon12]

I fully understand wanting to hear these names as Americanized and it is easier on the ears for me. As and example I watch many, many days of Road race cycling Grand tours (tour de France Giro d Italia and Vueulta a Espania) shorter stage races and One Day races and while listening there is a Female commentator who speaks perfect Flandrian and I appreciate how she says names and place names as the Natives do... But after a while when she talks using that almost clearing of the throat in many names it becomes annoying though she speaks properly. When others who host and comment use Anglicized/Americanized pronunciations it is easier to listen to. I say that You should say each persons name as they want but that doesn't mean the listener would prefer that pronunciation.

I think this idea speaks to how a lot of foreigners feel when they are in a country with a language different from their own. Thais pronounce my name wrong all the time and have even given me a nickname because my name is 3 syllables and that's too many for them lol. My buddy Kevin is called Kewin because there is no V sound, so he introduces himself as Kewin.

Without trying to sound pretentious, I like to pronounce people's names correctly. It's not hard for me to say "Fah-be-an" instead of "Fay-be-in" for Zetterlund's first name, and I'm sure he'd appreciate when said correctly too. Your name is all you got!

 

[DG93]

I think this idea speaks to how a lot of foreigners feel when they are in a country with a language different from their own. Thais pronounce my name wrong all the time and have even given me a nickname because my name is 3 syllables and that's too many for them lol. My buddy Kevin is called Kewin because there is no V sound, so he introduces himself as Kewin.

Without trying to sound pretentious, I like to pronounce people's names correctly. It's not hard for me to say "Fah-be-an" instead of "Fay-be-in" for Zetterlund's first name, and I'm sure he'd appreciate when said correctly too. Your name is all you got!

I agree with this

 

[CanadienShark]

How is this still a ongoing debate? The swedish player that owns the name, has stated how it is pronounced a week ago when he first joined the sharks.

Well I have a common Scandinavian last name and the way my family pronounces it is different than people from that/those countries. He might just be pronouncing it the way that most North Americans would, as opposed to how he would at home.

 

[OrrNumber4]

When the French use the words "Facebook" and "McDonald's" then don't say "Face-book" and "Mic-dawnald's". They say "Face-uh-buk" and "Macah-downald-suh". Just like Americans say "cap-rea-see" and "wahd-ka".

 

[67 others]

How is this still a ongoing debate? The swedish player that owns the name, has stated how it is pronounced a week ago when he first joined the sharks.

To this day, I still correct people when they pronounce mafia family names wrong.

Nobody ever seems to understand how to pronounce Genovese and Lucchese

.....for the record, It's: JEN OH VAY SEE and LUKE CASEY