Confirmed with Link: Shane Doan named Special Advisor to the General Manager

[Niagara Bill]

I agree 100% & will eat crow if he stays but I'm convinced theres more than 1 team out there that'll give him a huge, long term contract in the US of A ...where I am convinced he wants to return to. Look at what Dubas did with the Pens....you dont think that was ironed out months ago....heck for all I know Dubas may have already promised him the world (mere speculation)

June 22 is magic date. If his agent has not agreed to a number and term by then you MUST seek trades. The risk of losing him for nothing is too great.
Dubas had his deal from Pitt before being fired, he could have talked to AM, Dubas proved untrustworthy. This is on Tannenbaum, he is the guy who makes this decision. It is not only about hockey, it is about winning and control. He has not put this team on his back like Sid or Mario. It was already determined he could not be captain.
AM has too much control without accountability. Time for him the decide if winning or money is the goal. If being top paid is more important than Stanley...say good bye.
90M or 96M...in the bank, seriously!

 

[hullsy47]

June 22 is magic date. If his agent has not agreed to a number and term by then you MUST seek trades. The risk of losing him for nothing is too great.
Dubas had his deal from Pitt before being fired, he could have talked to AM, Dubas proved untrustworthy. This is on Tannenbaum, he is the guy who makes this decision. It is not only about hockey, it is about winning and control. He has not put this team on his back like Sid or Mario. It was already determined he could not be captain.
AM has too much control without accountability. Time for him the decide if winning or money is the goal. If being top paid is more important than Stanley...say good bye.
90M or 96M...in the bank, seriously!

Dubas mess .if he wanted to win here he could've stayed
Something tells me and few hockey people I know from the windsor that he knows more than he let on
Maybe the only 1 of the core 4 staying in the end is marner
The 1 he was rumored willing to deal
Fishy
But hey never a shortage of rumors in June lots of weddings graduations and got tourneys
Somebody will get the buzz going lol
All I heard is watch STEVE YZERMAN

 

[Budz]

You just proved me right.

Ok. I will bite. What do we have then?

 

[Leaf Fans]

June 22 is magic date. If his agent has not agreed to a number and term by then you MUST seek trades. The risk of losing him for nothing is too great.
Dubas had his deal from Pitt before being fired, he could have talked to AM, Dubas proved untrustworthy. This is on Tannenbaum, he is the guy who makes this decision. It is not only about hockey, it is about winning and control. He has not put this team on his back like Sid or Mario. It was already determined he could not be captain.
AM has too much control without accountability. Time for him the decide if winning or money is the goal. If being top paid is more important than Stanley...say good bye.
90M or 96M...in the bank, seriously!

You are just making up the bit about Dubas already having a deal.

 

[rumman]

It’s the sum of the parts. Look what changing teams with men having your back did for Eichel.
Matthews needs a new group. Less boys flanking him.

34, along with every other Leaf need to man up big time, no way they can compete with the teams that have made the semi‘s and finals for the last number of years, to win the cup you need to be committed to doing the tough things game in game out, the Leafs aren’t anywhere near that committed to winning, and that goes for pretty much the entire roster imo……….

We have the wrong core.
Eichel isn’t the Captain of Vegas, Stone is. There is a group of men there.

We’ve had Marleau, Tavares, Marner and Nylander as the most skilled backups. None of these guys are Batman. All Robin. And Shambles.

They can all change as far as I’m concerned.

Can we all agree without change, nothing changes, god I’m getting sick of hearing myself say this over and over and over again………

 

[therealkoho]

The Leafs aren't asking 34 who the coach can be or who his line mates have to be, and certainly not how much money to pay UFAs. The team will just negotiate and see if they can come to a deal.

The coach and linemates is a real thing my friend, so he may as well be negotiating contracts.

Who was it do you think went over the coach's head and complained to hi pal the GM that Sheldon was being too mean and said bad words.

I'll give you 3 guesses and a clue, that it wasn't Marner, it wasn't JT, it wasn't 88 or 44 and it was for damn sure not Justin Holl.

Do Crosby, Ovie, McJeebuzz and the like players get some consideration that maybe the AHL callup doesn't get, yes of course, but the coach almost in all cases remains the boss or at least first among equals.

The idiot owner in Buffalo bestowed that kind of power on Eichel and they're still digging their way out of the fallout that created and Eichel is long gone.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Ok. I will bite. What do we have then?

an MVP caliber player

 

[thewave]

Anyone else secretly hope Doan has the The Waterboy effect?

 

[DuklaNation]

Surprised Doan came to Toronto, must be looking grim in Arizona.

 

[ShaneFalco]

Whatever his faults, he's a legit high-end #1C all day long. That's very hard to replace

Oh for sure but his injuries have to be a bit concerning too. I hope Im wrong but he's probably going to ask for the moon. And then home-town boy will want the same. Tired of it

 

[Trapper]

Surprised Doan came to Toronto, must be looking grim in Arizona.

We have Matthews, we have Knies, maybe we trade with the Coyotes and Arizona is coming here.

 

[Boxscore]

The fact that 40 goals is considered a down year should tell you he's still that player

Matthews is still a high-end scorer for sure, assuming his wrists hold up. But that's pretty much where his game is right now, stagnating. He's not an elite passer (he's a good one), he's not physical, and he's not a defensive force. He's also not a leader like Tkachuk who can drag his club into the war. And, come playoff time, his game has historically regressed (that's a fact).

Matthews is still a high-end, exciting player who is an 82 game darling during the season. But he has no extra gear and, to date, has shown no hatred for losing. Leafs get bounced early and he's like, "Cool, where's the Biebs playing? And how about that dress code?"

 

[BertCorbeau]

Surprised Doan came to Toronto, must be looking grim in Arizona.

Doan says he wanted a role that was more involved ...

My guess is that he's getting a significant raise.

Plus I do imagine he has a soft spot for guys like Matthews and Knies, and he wants to help them achieve success.

 

[rumman]

Matthews is still a high-end scorer for sure, assuming his wrists hold up. But that's pretty much where his game is right now, stagnating. He's not an elite passer (he's a good one), he's not physical, and he's not a defensive force. He's also not a leader like Tkachuk who can drag his club into the war. And, come playoff time, his game has historically regressed (that's a fact).

Matthews is still a high-end, exciting player who is an 82 game darling during the season. But he has no extra gear and, to date, has shown no hatred for losing. Leafs get bounced early and he's like, "Cool, where's the Biebs playing? And how about that dress code?"

spot on assessment imo.............

 

[AvroArrow]

Simple -- hiring Doan is a blatant, over-the-top gesture by the Leafs that indicates their desperation to convince Matthews to sign. The Leafs are pretty much telling Matthews to name his price again. If Matthews says, "I am willing to go max 4 years x 14 million" what are the Leafs going to do? Trade him, after bringing in Doan, or cave to his demands once again? We know the answer.

The Leafs best play was to openly put their cards on the table and show Matthews their blueprint for success, which must include everyone sacrificing a bit to keep the core together while adding a better cast around them. The Leafs need to man up and be sincere but firm, then gauge if Matthews truly wants to be a Leaf or only wants to be a Leaf if they are willing to give him everything he wants. There's a huge difference.

Hiring Doan to persuade Matthews is practically begging him to stay. I still find it completely ludicrous that we seem to bend over for this kid, get on our hands and knees, and give him every bloody dollar he demands for him to love us back.

Hayes is 100% correct. Kucherov, Hedman, McDavid, Draisaitl, Crosby, Malkin, Kane, Toews, MacKinnon, Rantanen, Makar, Pastrnak, Tkachuk, Hughes, Gaugreau, Stutzle, and now Dahlin reportedly, all committed to their clubs and locked into 8-year deals. Why is it that we're the only team who's players don't want to commit? After everything we've done to spoil them. It's a disgrace. Ownership and management have no backbone.

OR , they brought Doan in for the opposite reason. A guy Matthews idolized and has a good relationship with who can influence Matthews to take a team friendly deal in order for team success.

 

[Boxscore]

OR , they brought Doan in for the opposite reason. A guy Matthews idolized and has a good relationship with who can influence Matthews to take a team friendly deal in order for team success.

Right, that's their hope. But it's telling Matthews: "This is for you."

Now, let's see what Matthews does. If he signs for $12.6 x 8 then hiring Doan is the greatest investment the Leafs made in recent history. If he signs for $13.5 x 4, it was utterly worthless from a "Matthews commitment" standpoint. The good news is, we'll know fairly soon.

 

[Mr Knies Guy]

OR , they brought Doan in for the opposite reason. A guy Matthews idolized and has a good relationship with who can influence Matthews to take a team friendly deal in order for team success.

No one is influencing Matthews but him or his agent. He seems to share the ideology of Marner and Nylander, to a lesser degree, of unadulterated self-interest above all else and little-to-no actual commitment to win the Cup, no chance they do anything team friendly.

 

[Buds17]

Right, that's their hope. But it's telling Matthews: "This is for you."

Now, let's see what Matthews does. If he signs for $12.6 x 8 then hiring Doan is the greatest investment the Leafs made in recent history. If he signs for $13.5 x 4, it was utterly worthless from a "Matthews commitment" standpoint. The good news is, we'll know fairly soon.

Doan has a tie or connection to Treliving and Knies as well. I think the connection to Treliving in particular serves as the most meaningful of all in terms of Doan now being employed by the Leafs.

 

[AvroArrow]

Right, that's their hope. But it's telling Matthews: "This is for you."

Now, let's see what Matthews does. If he signs for $12.6 x 8 then hiring Doan is the greatest investment the Leafs made in recent history. If he signs for $13.5 x 4, it was utterly worthless from a "Matthews commitment" standpoint. The good news is, we'll know fairly soon.

What if he signs for 4 and we win a cup ? It's way too early to speculate or tell if it's a potential good/bad signing. The guy just got on board lets see how it goes.

 

[Leaf Rocket]

It's not like Doan, a famed Coyote player/captain, had any contact with Coyotes' AGM from 2003-2014.

 

[Notsince67]

34, along with every other Leaf need to man up big time, no way they can compete with the teams that have made the semi‘s and finals for the last number of years, to win the cup you need to be committed to doing the tough things game in game out, the Leafs aren’t anywhere near that committed to winning, and that goes for pretty much the entire roster imo……….


Can we all agree without change, nothing changes, god I’m getting sick of hearing myself say this over and over and over again………

When a person says that it usually means changes that they want. Changes occur all the time.

 

[rumman]

When a person says that it usually means changes that they want. Changes occur all the time.

I don’t understand what your saying here?

 

[Notsince67]

I don’t understand what your saying here?

There have been roster changes galore for years. Some good some bad. Clearly you want specific changes.

 

[Leaf Fans]

The coach and linemates is a real thing my friend, so he may as well be negotiating contracts.

Who was it do you think went over the coach's head and complained to hi pal the GM that Sheldon was being too mean and said bad words.

I'll give you 3 guesses and a clue, that it wasn't Marner, it wasn't JT, it wasn't 88 or 44 and it was for damn sure not Justin Holl.

Do Crosby, Ovie, McJeebuzz and the like players get some consideration that maybe the AHL callup doesn't get, yes of course, but the coach almost in all cases remains the boss or at least first among equals.

The idiot owner in Buffalo bestowed that kind of power on Eichel and they're still digging their way out of the fallout that created and Eichel is long gone.

Lol

 

[rumman]

There have been roster changes galore for years. Some good some bad. Clearly you want specific changes.

Well, it would be productive to address the elephant in the room, and by that I mean half your cap going to 4 players. Pick two and move them, I don’t care which two, but move two of them and redistribute the cap throughout the line up making for a better team. Less flash, more crash………