Rumor: Seravalli: Rangers been all over JT Miller

[Canucks LB]

Lots of new information breaking, figured it’s time to update the old thread, and make a new one.

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[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

As they should be, every contender should be

 

[EdJovanovski]

If they trade Kravtsov for Miller, at this point there is no doubt that Drury was hired for the sole purpose of pissing me off.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

So much for "been there, done that".

Makes complete sense.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Rangers right now:

 

[theVladiator]

Have they checked with JT Miller?

I think he had terrible time in NY, with NY giving up on him eventually. He did not play well, but that's besides the point. He may not be too happy going back, and would rather close that unpleasant chapter. His play could suffer as well. The fans would probably be quick to dig up that old hatchet if things do not start off well. Just seems like one of the worst destinations for him.

 

[Buresflyingelbow]

What I have been saying all along. They make excellent trading partners. If a deal gets done I’ll be excited to see the reactions from the fans on here. Expect to give up a lot!

 

[DudeWhereIsMakar]

Shouldn't have ever traded him

But under Gallant's system I think he'll be incredible and could work well on any of their lines. Still think Vancouver is too good a fit for him.

Could see maybe Strome going the other way or picks and prospects.

 

[Canucks LB]

Just wanted to drop this post, because of the absolute filthy no look pass the other night, lol

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Shouldn't have ever traded him

But under Gallant's system I think he'll be incredible and could work well on any of their lines. Still think Vancouver is too good a fit for him.

Could see maybe Strome going the other way or picks and prospects.

I'm not sure Vancouver has interest in Strome, who is a UFA after this season.

 

[Nucklehead Supreme]

Shouldn't have ever traded him

But under Gallant's system I think he'll be incredible and could work well on any of their lines. Still think Vancouver is too good a fit for him.

Could see maybe Strome going the other way or picks and prospects.

I assume you mean Strome ++ here right?

Either way, no chance that's who the Canucks trade for.

 

[Canucks LB]

Just an update for people that don’t know.

Canucks needs are as follows:

Major Need:
Top Prospect RHD

Minor Needs:

Picks
Decent Prospects

(Or player equivalent’s)

- JT Miller has been absolutely ridiculous for Vancouver, Basically point per game in the last three seasons in Vancouver, incredible on the face off, hard-working, gritty, Performed in the most recent playoffs, And has a cheap contract for another year.

 

[wintersej]

Feels like the Rangers are "going for it" too early in the re-build but good for them!

edit: I guess with the cap crunch incoming they have no choice

 

[Scorvat]

Just an update for people that don’t know.

Canucks needs are as follows:

Major Need:
Top Prospect RHD

Minor Needs:

Picks
Decent Prospects

(Or player equivalent’s)

- JT Miller has been absolutely ridiculous for Vancouver, Basically point per game in the last three seasons in Vancouver, incredible on the face off, hard-working, gritty, Performed in the most recent playoffs, And has a cheap contract for another year.

We need centers as well

Almost nobody in the system and past 2023 the only "centers" signed are Dickinson and Pettersson

 

[BWJM]

We need centers as well

Almost nobody in the system and past 2023 the only "centers" signed are Dickinson and Pettersson

Agreed. Would like a young C coming back in the deal if we trading with the Rangers.

 

[HockeyVirus]

With what cap space?

 

[Canucks LB]

With what cap space?

Yeah I’m not sure how that’s gonna work honestly

 

[egelband]

Agreed. Would like a young C coming back in the deal if we trading with the Rangers.

Rangers don’t have any of those, unfortunately. I could see Lundkvist going to Vancouver but would probably need more than one-plus season of JT Miller. Unless Vancouver retains. That could be a deal. JTM @50% plus a 3rd for Lundkvist?

 

[HockeyVirus]

Yeah I’m not sure how that’s gonna work honestly

Only thing that makes sense is if they offload Trouba onto you guys. But he would be pissed about it, and you would have like half your cap in RD lol

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Only thing that makes sense is if they offload Trouba onto you guys. But he would be pissed about it, and you would have like half your cap in RD lol

No he wouldn't. He has a NMC and can just prevent it from happening.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Miller @ 50% for Schneider, Chytil + 2022 1st

Miller @ 50% represents almost the same cap hit as Chytil.

 

[Nucker42]

Miller @ 50% for Schneider, Chytil + 2022 1st

Miller @ 50% represents almost the same cap hit as Chytil.

Add Kratsov

 

[Peter Griffin]

Just an update for people that don’t know.

Canucks needs are as follows:

Major Need:
Top Prospect RHD

Minor Needs:

Picks
Decent Prospects

(Or player equivalent’s)

- JT Miller has been absolutely ridiculous for Vancouver, Basically point per game in the last three seasons in Vancouver, incredible on the face off, hard-working, gritty, Performed in the most recent playoffs, And has a cheap contract for another year.

They’ll also need a future replacement for JT as well. Trading him will be about finding the best future value for this team and not necessarily just to recoup a RH’ed d-man.

 

[JKG33]

If they trade Kravtsov for Miller, at this point there is no doubt that Drury was hired for the sole purpose of pissing me off.

Rangers don’t have any of those, unfortunately. I could see Lundkvist going to Vancouver but would probably need more than one-plus season of JT Miller. Unless Vancouver retains. That could be a deal. JTM @50% plus a 3rd for Lundkvist?

This thread is hilarious. Lundkvist for Miller+? Kravstov being a non starter? Lmao so delusional

 

[smoneil]

Miller @ 50% for Schneider, Chytil + 2022 1st

Miller @ 50% represents almost the same cap hit as Chytil.

Way too much.

Putting aside the oddity of trading for a player we moved on from not THAT long ago because of how poorly he meshed with the team culture, the obvious parallel deal here is the Yandle to NY trade from a few years back. High end player at a key position, 50% retained with a season and a half left on his contract. Similar ages (Yandle was 28 when traded).

Yandle returned:
- 1st rounder
- 2nd rounder (the following year)
- a 3rd pair journeyman defender (John Moore)
- a well-regarded rookie (former 3rd round pick Anthony Duclair, who had put up 7 points in his first 18 games).

And that was considered a lot back then. None of those pieces was valued as highly as Schneider. I still don't think Miller is a fit for the Rangers ($$ and bad prior history), but the equivalent Rangers package would look more like:

-1st rounder
-2nd rounder
-Nemeth
-Zac Jones

There are variations to be made here, but none that involve Schneider going back. I wouldn't move Chytil in a Miller trade, either. You want to upgrade from Nemeth to Hajek? Fine--replace the 2nd rounder with a 4th rounder. You want to upgrade from Jones to Nils Lundkvist? Fine. Remove the 1st rounder.

You get a better offer than this from another team? Accept it, by all means.