Weekes: Sens working to extend DeBrincat

[discostu]

Debrincat engaging in contract extension talks this early is a pretty positive sign of the mood and atmosphere of the team.

The initial trade was a shock to him. The other guys signing long term deals have had a chance to be with the org a long time. Their buy in of the long term plan is great, but not unanticipated. Eveb Giroux signing made sense with his local connection and likely being familiar with the change in mood around the team.

Debrincat on the other hand, likely hadn't spent much time even thinking about the Sens being part of his long term future.

I don't think Sens fans would even be that mad if he stayed for the one year and asked for a trade to somewhere where he'd be willing to sign long term.

 

[SensFactor]

Sens top 9 for years to come?

Tkachuk - Norris - Batherson
DeBrincat - Stutzle - Giroux
Greig - Pinto - Joseph/Formenton

Eye candy for a Sens fan. You can interchange players up and down each line to find the right chemistry

 

[TeamRenzo]

The Landeskog special. What's wrong with 7M x 8 years? Is he better than Landeskog?

Anyone thinking 9.5M avv for this guy is smoking the real good stuff

Yes, he is a better offensive player than GL and as others have mentioned he is younger so Sens are buying up UFA year (hopefully).

Personally, I don't see him signing before seeing how the team performs for at least half of the season.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

If Sens can get this guy locked up for 7M avv, the contract will look fine.

Yeah 7M AVV for a 2 time 40 goal scorer, Good luck with that. DeBrincats QO is $9,000,000 he's not taking less. If i;m DeBrincat signing with Ottawa and high Canadian taxes. I'm not taking any thing less then the Matthew Tkachuk deal in Florida 8 x $9,500,000.

 

[TheNewEra]

Sens top 9 for years to come?

Tkachuk - Norris - Batherson
DeBrincat - Stutzle - Giroux
Greig - Pinto - Joseph/Formenton

Eye candy for a Sens fan. You can interchange players up and down each line to find the right chemistry

I think joseph might end up becoming a cap casualty. It will really depend on what the extension is for ADC, if sens can get rid of zaistev and if ottawa can make the cap work for next year as the year after we have Murray/Ryan/Del Zotto off the books which will give ottawa another 4ish million in cap to work with

 

[KevinRedkey]

I still think he comes in somewhere between Brady (8.206) and Stutzle (8.350).
I wouldn't be surprised if it's 8.500 though

I'd bet money it not over 9.000 if it gets done.

Note: Yes I realize I'm on the optimistic side of the fence here.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

He was licking his chops when he saw how much Barzal got overpaid. He should definitely get more being the better player.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

The Landeskog special. What's wrong with 7M x 8 years? Is he better than Landeskog?

Anyone thinking 9.5M avv for this guy is smoking the real good stuff

Is this a joke? Is DeBrincat better than Landeskog, Let's do some research here. Landeskog best season goal wise is 30. Alex DeBrincat best season is 2 41 goal seasons. Look at DeBrincats numbers compared to Landeskog in his early years and DeBrincats are far better. You're definitely smoking something if you honestly believe that DeBrincats worth is closer to $7M then $9.5M he's worth far closer to the latter than the beginning. If Dorion only offered Cat $7,000,000 he'd laugh and walk out the door. More realistic comparison for Cat is 8 years $72,000,000 or a $9,000,000 per AAV basically his QO next season.

 

[NyQuil]

I still think he comes in somewhere between Brady (8.206) and Stutzle (8.350).
I wouldn't be surprised if it's 8.500 though

I'd bet money it not over 9.000 if it gets done.

Note: Yes I realize I'm on the optimistic side of the fence here.

He'd be leaving money on the table.

 

[23Monahan]

9.5 x 8

 

[74 others]

This is a really, really risky one. You sure you want to do that without seeing him away from Kane?

Well he was very good with Giroux against the Habs yesterday.

 

[jaric1862]

Could look like the Laine extension and just be 3/4 years instead of 8. Even if that's the case still a great trade by Ottawa.

This definitely makes the most sense if Ottawa wants to keep their internal cap around 8-8.5 mil for top players.

 

[BruinsBtn]

Well he was very good with Giroux against the Habs yesterday.

Read the bolded part again, and remember that it's preseason.

 

[NyQuil]

Read the bolded part again, and remember that it's preseason.

Waiting until he scores a whole bunch of goals for the Senators has its own risks.

 

[Boud]

Read the bolded part again, and remember that it's preseason.

Debrincat has been an elite scorer at every level, why would that change now? If you have one of the best shots in the game, the puck will go in the net. He's playing with 2 amazing playmakers. Patrick Kane is great, not a single doubt there but so is Debrincat. If Debrincat had typically been a low producing/scoring player and got a crazy boost from playing with Kane then for sure, but that's not the case if you look at him since his junior years.

People said the same thing about him in Erie when he was playing with McDavid, and then McDavid left and he was one of the best players in the OHL. His last year in the O he scored 17 goals more than anyone else (!)

 

[Hodge]

Why is it assumed he will be signing an eight year deal? It would make more sense to sign for 2-3 years and become a UFA when the cap is 90+ million.

 

[Kevin Musto]

I still think he comes in somewhere between Brady (8.206) and Stutzle (8.350).

That's delusional.

Ottawa will have to pay him more than Stutzle if they want to keep him around.

His qualifying offer is like 8M. There's nothing stopping him from taking his QO, going to free agency, and getting Panarin money.

Ottawa is looking at 10M.

 

[cg98]

"McDavid carried DeBrincat in Erie"

"Kane carried DeBrincat in Chicago"

I wonder whos carrying the Cat next? Cant be THAT easy to lug around a 5'7" person lol. Seriously tho, he'll be more than fine replacing Kane with Stutzle and Giroux.

 

[discostu]

Why is it assumed he will be signing an eight year deal? It would make more sense to sign for 2-3 years and become a UFA when the cap is 90+ million.

That's just what high vakye players in the NHL do. A top player will likely try to buck that trend soon and take shorter deals to maximize earnings, but, I'm guessing Debrincat isn't that guy.

The fact that he's engaging in contract discussions this early after being traded unexpectedly suggests he values the assurance of a long term contract.

 

[swiftwin]

Gotta think $8 mil per at minimum?
Ottawa is gonna lock into this core for long term, better hope it finds some success.

Might as well go all in at this point. It doesn't make any sense to only half-commit. If it fails, might as well fail spectacularly, but if it succeeds, they'll be in a fantastic position to be legitimate cup contenders in a few years as the cap goes up, and they can add more pieces to this core when they're in their absolute prime.

 

[Hodge]

That's just what high vakye players in the NHL do. A top player will likely try to buck that trend soon and take shorter deals to maximize earnings, but, I'm guessing Debrincat isn't that guy.

The fact that he's engaging in contract discussions this early after being traded unexpectedly suggests he values the assurance of a long term contract.

You could be right but at 24 years old there is low risk of DeBrincat’s skills or production significantly declining over the next 2-3 years. Since the cap is projected to jump by 10+ million over that span he would be leaving money on the table by signing for 8 years now instead of a 3 year extension followed by a 7 or 8 year UFA deal.

I understand most top players sign max length deals as soon as possible but this is a unique situation for a number of reasons.

 

[Silencio]

Debrincat has been an elite scorer at every level, why would that change now? If you have one of the best shots in the game, the puck will go in the net. He's playing with 2 amazing playmakers. Patrick Kane is great, not a single doubt there but so is Debrincat. If Debrincat had typically been a low producing/scoring player and got a crazy boost from playing with Kane then for sure, but that's not the case if you look at him since his junior years.

People said the same thing about him in Erie when he was playing with McDavid, and then McDavid left and he was one of the best players in the OHL. His last year in the O he scored 17 goals more than anyone else (!)

Thank you. People are acting like he's Cory Conacher playing with Stamkos.

 

[Golden_Jet]

"McDavid carried DeBrincat in Erie"

"Kane carried DeBrincat in Chicago"

I wonder whos carrying the Cat next? Cant be THAT easy to lug around a 5'7" person lol. Seriously tho, he'll be more than fine replacing Kane with Stutzle and Giroux.

Ya played 2 more seasons in Erie after McDavid left, still managed a 51 and a 67 goal season , and CHL player of the year.

 

[KevinRedkey]

That's delusional.

Ottawa will have to pay him more than Stutzle if they want to keep him around.

His qualifying offer is like 8M. There's nothing stopping him from taking his QO, going to free agency, and getting Panarin money.

Ottawa is looking at 10M.

I say 8.250
You say 10.000

I'll quit HF if you're closer. You quit if I'm closer. Let's see who's delusional.

 

[discostu]

You could be right but at 24 years old there is low risk of DeBrincat’s skills or production significantly declining over the next 2-3 years. Since the cap is projected to jump by 10+ million over that span he would be leaving money on the table by signing for 8 years now instead of a 3 year extension followed by a 7 or 8 year UFA deal.

I understand most top players sign max length deals as soon as possible but this is a unique situation for a number of reasons.

That's true for pretty much every 24 year old star player, yet the trend continues.

It's certainly a risk that he'll ask for a shorter term, and if I'm Ottawa, I'd take him for any length of time he wants to commit other than a 1 year deal.

If he was going to take that route of maximizing earnings though, it's not likely with Ottawa. If you're focused on dollars, you go to a low tax team, and somewhere where your can raise your media profile.