Post-Game Talk: Sens win Late

[surixon]

It feels like Huddy is intentionally trying to wreck Morrissey. He and Trouba have been bad since the have been split up. Josh keeps getting #6-7 D men to play with in the top 4??

Morrissey was the top dmen in XGF% today, he was pretty solid. But yeah his offensive confidence seems to be low at the moment. Him and Poolman are ok together, just let that pair stabilize a bit and hopefully JoMo can get a puck to go in for him offensively.

 

[AlphaLackey]

The Jets had won 6 straight games against the Sens before this lost. If this lost against the Sens is on Maurice then is the 6 straight wins against the Sens also on Maurice? Why is the coach always the problem when we lose but never the reason when we win? How about this is the NHL and you can never win every game against a NHL team no matter how bad they are? The Habs and Leafs both have lost to the Sens. Is it their coaches fault or is it that when you play enough games against the same team you WILL lose a game sooner or later?

Given that I'm the resident champion of the "Any Given Sunday factor in the NHL = 3:1, and we're still either 5&1 or 4&1 against the Sens" in this thread, SURELY "Is it their coaches fault or is it that when you play enough games against the same team you WILL lose a game sooner or later?" must be a case of you angrily agreeing with me.

 

[razorsedge]

We were due to lose to Ottawa. And with 8.2 seconds left? Sure why not.

 

[garret9]

I'm not even mad at Beaulieu. He has given coaches ample opportunity to see that he's not a good defenseman and shouldn't be a regular D-man in the NHL.

I'm not mad... just curious as to if he pulls it off.

I don't even think his true talent level is that low; just what the results have been with him.

 

[PaulD]

Nice time for a giveaway Helle..

Connor "this ones on me guys" Hellebuyck

 

[surixon]

Oh boy are you gonna be mad when you see what Maurice has done with Stanley's ice time over the past 3 games.

Its in the toilet due to that silly 7 d system.

 

[Hulide]

Sounds like CSW is back together again next game

 

[Romang67]

Its in the toilet due to that silly 7 d system.

Maybe. Stanley played <10 minutes the last game we played with 6 D-men too.

 

[LowLefty]

I think its time to take Beau out of the lineup, Stanley has won that spot imo.

I actually liked how the pairings functioned today for the most part.

Both Forbert/Pionk and Morrissey/Poolman had solid outings. Lets get back to the DeMelo/Stanley pairing for our third.

Morrissey and Poolman have actually made a pretty good pairing this year (Small sample):

56.67 CF% 53.14 XGF%

I really like Stanley's game - he's a big part of what we have been missing - a dman that is primarily a dman.
I'm not a Pionk fan- I don't think he has a clue how to play defense in his own end and he spends way too much time trying to make up for it by being a forward.
Poolman looks pretty good considering how long he has been out - and he should help settle Morrissey down a bit.
Still need a top pairing addition - but we'll likely have to work without one for now.

 

[garret9]

I really like Stanley's game - he's a big part of what we have been missing - a dman that is primarily a dman.
I'm not a Pionk fan- I don't think he has a clue how to play defense in his own end and he spends way too much time trying to make up for it by being a forward.
Poolman looks pretty good considering how long he has been out - and he should help settle Morrissey down a bit.
Still need a top pairing addition - but we'll likely have to work without one for now.

Pionk is 2nd on the Jets in 5v5 goal differential relative to ice time, and 1st in xGoal and Corsi, when you adjust for usage using RAPM methods. He's also the only guy in the positives for the latter two metrics.

He's probably been the best performer, even if that's a low bar.

 

[Romang67]

Sounds like CSW is back together again next game

I take it I shouldn't listen to Maurice's post game media availability?

 

[ps241]

Yup, I like Maurice more than most, but his usual blind spots are getting old......3 years ago.

I agree he bothers me less than he bothers others here but he is pretty stubborn. Usually I am less salty after losses but have 3 losses in the last two minutes/dying seconds is an 82 game seasons worth.

 

[PhilJets]

Well at least its not game 5 of a 2-2 playoff series dying seconds with CSW out there.

 

[kanadalainen]

I'm not going to stay on this forum long, because it's not going to be a happy place today, and that has little to do with the weather.

I'll share these observations.

This team has a mental fragility right now, which is compounded with each close game loss. That's 3 points at least we've lost this year in the final 90 seconds, 2nd in the final 10 seconds. I think those things get into your head, and would have been a lot different had Lowry's line scored late. Curiously, and I'll let the coach explain this one, Connor-Scheifele-Wheeler took the last shift, which is not the guys you would think to put out, based on statistical information, in the late stages of a tie game.

Tucker Poolman is a breath of fresh air, really enjoy watching him play, he's becoming a very complete defenseman. It's his d-partner, supposedly our best d-man, who is quite often out of position, leading to dangerous counterattacks.

Neal Pionk is an offensive gift, I'm still not sold on Forbort, he's getting beat regularly in the defensive zone. If there's room for Samberg, that's the spot I would have in mind, if only we could rely on Josh defensively again.

I like Stanley-De Melo as a d-pairing and would like to see more, even at BooBoo's expense.

Our forwards maybe don't have the speed that they should, having 4 over 30 forwards out there. The onus is on the wingers. The only line that stood out to me was Lowry's line, every game he puts in a good game.

Thought Lewis had a lot of good 4th line shifts too.

I knew we were going to lose to Ottawa sooner or later, it's not as though we are overwhelmingly more talented, probably not the better skating team either. It's a tough loss, but this is a resilient team, hopefully they bring a better effort on the Western front.

Really enjoy these posts my friend, keep them coming.

 

[sipowicz]

Is that a new NHL rule for this year, some wins get taken away? Odd.

yeah it’s like university during Covid, take away the two courses with the worst overall score to prop up your GPA!

 

[antiqueslivers]

forbort... league minimum on a 1 year contract and we chose him over 2 Dmen brimming with potential. Why invest in this pylon instead of building chemistry with our D that will be here next year? I mean from what I'm seeing we are not playing to be competitive this year. The old posts from carolina when maurice coached there gives me chills. This isn't new, this is by design.. a design from a coach who has lost more games than any other coach in NHL history. I swear to god Maurice wants old vets because he is a lazy coach who wants to watch a game instead of coach it. He certainly doesn't hold any of them to account. But will bench or pressbox a rookie if he sniffs the wrong way or god forbid is young!? you can't say he has to get bigger physically when you ice pionk nightly, Ville can physically handle himself as well as pionk... and you can't tell me samberg is too small. Pomo's post game presser was infuriating. F this guy. Oh and you just know Thompson is bumping one of our young guys because vet.

If I were chevy I"d be pissed at how my coach is using all these tools I'm providing and if I'm chipman I'm livid watching all this potential walk out the door because my coach has a love affair with waiver wire pickups. Its bonkers.

 

[Royale With Cheese]

Worst team in pro sports.

 

[bustamente]

The only way Maurice is not coaching this team next year is if the Jets don't make the playoffs and even then I not so certain.

 

[libertarian]

a) it was a Hellebuyck error
b) Maurice also has to go

Why does Maurice have to go?

Is it Maurice's fault for our 5 loses or is it Maurice's fault for our 8 wins?

Try a experiment and go to the other 30 teams in the NHL on their local HF boards site and you will find one common thyme, WHEN THE TEAM LOSES IT IS ALWAYS THE COACHES FAULT. This is true for every team in the league no matter how good that team is.

If the Jets don't make it past the first round of the PO's this season then it is time to change things up and see if another coach can do better with the Jets current core of players. Blaming Maurice for one single lost against a team they will play 10 times is silly.

 

[tbcwpg]

Worst team in pro sports.

They aren't aren't the worst team in pro sports with the Jets nickname. Let's maybe slow the hot takes here.

 

[jetsforever]

we were without our best forward this afternoon but Copp isn’t anywhere near the skill level for top 6. Top 9 on the Jets yes, ideally should be on the third line.

It was a joke but yeah Copp is best as a 3rd liner, unless we want to go with the 3 balanced lines again.

 

[puck stoppa]

What did I miss in the presser?

 

[johnnyonthspot]

Connor "this ones on me guys" Hellebuyck

Yea but how many games has he bailed them out.
Brutal way to lose.
Goalie is not one of the problem areas.

 

[jetsforever]

Why does Maurice have to go?

Is it Maurice's fault for our 5 loses or is it Maurice's fault for our 8 wins?

Try a experiment and go to the other 30 teams in the NHL on their local HF boards site and you will find one common thyme, WHEN THE TEAM LOSES IT IS ALWAYS THE COACHES FAULT. This is true for every team in the league no matter how good that team is.

If the Jets don't make it past the first round of the PO's this season then it is time to change things up and see if another coach can do better with the Jets current core of players. Blaming Maurice for one single lost against a team they will play 10 times is silly.

You might be responding to the wrong person but I'm not putting this loss on Maurice, just saying in general that he's long overdue to leave
He's the second-longest tenured coach in the league, behind some guy who won the Stanley Cup.
There's numerous problems with Maurice in general, such as overreliance on Scheif/Wheels, underplaying Ehlers, arguably forcing Laine out, etc.
A fresh face could definitely add a spark to the team.

 

[LowLefty]

Pionk is 2nd on the Jets in 5v5 goal differential relative to ice time, and 1st in xGoal and Corsi, when you adjust for usage using RAPM methods. He's also the only guy in the positives for the latter two metrics.

He's probably been the best performer, even if that's a low bar.

So why does he always appear to be struggling with one on one coverage, especially along the walls, behind or in front of the net?

Anyway, looks like the numbers tell a different story - I'll look harder for what the numbers see and I don't.

And stop replying to my posts with Stat's - you know I don't like it when you do that