GDT: Sens vs habs

[Xspyrit]

Sens have 5 shutouts this season... not bad for a team struggling defensively

This man gets it. Our PK is atrocious this year and has been one of the main reasons we are where we are. The PP is not much better. It's on the coaches. There is no reason this team should be last in PK and near last PP.

Indeed, that was a very good post. And it's exactly what I am thinking. I got fooled by Cameron since he had the results in his first 82 games with the team but I think it's more his players that made him look good.

Special units let us down. That's definitely the conclusion of this season. And with the personnel in place, there's no reason why we shouldn't have success in those departments.

Agreed, Karlsson was excellent defensively tonight, and a great example that he can play Norris caliber defense.

I think that's what Borowiecki is talking about. Karlsson has to play defensively first and then think about the offense. Sometimes it looks like he is trying to break offensive records too much.

THE PROBLEM, is that the team is playing from behind WAY TOO MUCH.

I agree in todays NHL is all about special teams and goaltending, if you have a great powerplay and a goaltender that can shut the door on the PK you'r in business.

Exact. Sens special units have been super inefficient and goaltending has been decent but average. You need great goaltending in this league because many other teams get it.

Hopefully next year, O'Connor and/or Hogberg start knocking at the door and put some (sane) pressure on Andy and Hammond

Lol greening smith condra. Wow.

That was just a start... And the quality was low because it was the results of Muckler's dradting (except Smith) so you could add Gryba, O'Brien and whoever to that list. But then, Murray acquisitions (Turris, Anderson, Methot, Ryan, MacArthur, etc.) and prospects (Stone, Hoffman, Zibanejad, Pageau, Ceci, Silfverberg, Wiercioch, Borowiecki, etc) arrived...

Everything else is in place? For what? To squeak into the playoffs or challenge for a Stanley cup?

To be a consistent playoffs team and progress with their level of contention. What? Do you think teams are contenders overnight?

 

[DrEasy]

It's nice when the game is a blowout and Karlsson doesn't need to play 30 minutes. 26 minutes for him last night.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

I don't think they handled puempel properly. The up and down doesn't seem to have served him properly. Every player responds different to different methods. He's so petrified to make a play out there in fear of a benching or being sent back down

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I don't think they handled puempel properly. The up and down doesn't seem to have served him properly. Every player responds different to different methods. He's so petrified to make a play out there in fear of a benching or being sent back down

Seemed to have worked for Prince

 

[bonehead]

I don't think they handled puempel properly. The up and down doesn't seem to have served him properly. Every player responds different to different methods. He's so petrified to make a play out there in fear of a benching or being sent back down

I bet if they played him with Stone & Pageau for a season he'd score 20 goals, and I don't even like Puempel! But those are the types of players he needs to be with to show his skill (finishing). We have far too few possession forwards who make others better (Stone, Pageau, Turris, Hoffman, Macarthur, Dzingle? Paul?) and far too many "north-south" skaters who need others to make them useful (Puempel, Ryan, Mika, Smith, Lazar, Chiasson, Neil).

Btw, why is Scott Gomez still playing? One assist in 9 games is quite the production!

 

[HonestSenator]

I bet if they played him with Stone & Pageau for a season he'd score 20 goals, and I don't even like Puempel! But those are the types of players he needs to be with to show his skill (finishing). We have far too few possession forwards who make others better (Stone, Pageau, Turris, Hoffman, Macarthur, Dzingle? Paul?) and far too many "north-south" skaters who need others to make them useful (Puempel, Ryan, Mika, Smith, Lazar, Chiasson, Neil).

Btw, why is Scott Gomez still playing? One assist in 9 games is quite the production!

I agree with you on this. I think this up and down probably has a huge impact on the confidence of players. I'm not so sure the senators development system as great as some bloggers feel it is. Guys like puemple and Prince were playing very well in the ahl while a guy like lazar was probably put into the league too early.

Now we have what we have. Prince traded for 3Rd round pick. By all accounts we were all loved him at the start of the yeart except for the coaching staff.

 

[topshelf15]

I bet if they played him with Stone & Pageau for a season he'd score 20 goals, and I don't even like Puempel! But those are the types of players he needs to be with to show his skill (finishing). We have far too few possession forwards who make others better (Stone, Pageau, Turris, Hoffman, Macarthur, Dzingle? Paul?) and far too many "north-south" skaters who need others to make them useful (Puempel, Ryan, Mika, Smith, Lazar, Chiasson, Neil).

Btw, why is Scott Gomez still playing? One assist in 9 games is quite the production!

Because he is a center ,not a LW

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Because he is a center ,not a LW

Because of this Gomez should be playing?

 

[topshelf15]

Because of this Gomez should be playing?

Considering Puemple is and has always been a LW yes ,they seem to want Paul playing lw/center with Lazar ,so that leaves one real LW slot open and that would be Dzingle,s.So again i dont understand the half you posters that dont seem to get this

 

[DrEasy]

Considering Puemple is and has always been a LW yes ,they seem to want Paul playing lw/center with Lazar ,so that leaves one real LW slot open and that would be Dzingle,s.So again i dont understand the half you posters that dont seem to get this

Put Puempel at Smith's current spot (LW), put Smith at Gomez' spot (C). Problem solved.

 

[Sensinitis]

Put Puempel at Smith's current spot (LW), put Smith at Gomez' spot (C). Problem solved.

Except Smith is excelling on the wing

Why not keep him there and see how long he can play well and responsibly?

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Agreed

Smith looks much more comfortable now that he doesn't have to deal with being the C: he's all over the ice which is good for such a big body, and one that likes to hit.

 

[DylanSensFan]

Because of this Gomez should be playing?

Everyone complains when we rush players like Lazar. Then everyone complains when we don't bring players up fast enough like Hoffman and Puempel. Then everyone asks why we have a veteran playing center.

How about showing some patience all around? Is that difficult?

I understand quantum physics has made all of our technology move at light speed, but the fact is, these players are just human beings and they all need to be treated differently, as well as developed differently. Obviously we kept Peumpel because the scouting staff and everyone else in management sees potential in him. Give it time.

 

[DylanSensFan]

Is this actually the PGT lol. EK is pretty good in person too tn Idk how he is on tv

Also I hate how clutch Pageau is against the habs, he should negotiate a clause that will give him a bonus everytime he scores against the habs. Insane, he was put on earth solely to play against the habs.

I also got a free upgrade from the sens section for having a habs Jersey on and a habs sweater underneath and then a habs t-shirt so I couldn't take off any more layers of clothes. They stuck me in the 200s, new found respect for the CTC.

Consider it punishment for the Habs not drafting Pageau earlier.

 

[DylanSensFan]

They are people at the end of the day... and they have a powerful union to back them so they can get that free time.

If I was earning millions to play a game, you better believe I would be training with Gary Roberts every summer.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

If I was earning millions to play a game, you better believe I would be training with Gary Roberts every summer.

Amen!

I really think a lot of these guys have no idea just how lucky they are. Yeah, it sucks in your youth to say no to a lot of parties and drinking and fun times to dedicate yourself to the sport....but to be set for life for a couple of generations by the time you're 30? They have no idea what an amazing gift that is.

 

[Flamingo]

Some of them really don't understand how lucky they are. They've succeeded on exceptional talent and years of conditioning. Success can breed complacency. It doesn't have to be chronic, though. Approaching 30 years old, youd hope a player assesses himself and his career.

I don't know if bobby has taken his foot off the pedal lately, he might just be trying to play the game in a way he never had to. He might just have to train to add some dimensions to his game.

 

[Mingus Dew]

Not to mention that a summer of working out all day sounds pretty awesome.

But I guess it's kind of impossible to put yourself in a pro athlete's shoes and adopt their perspective. These guys live in a different world.

 

[DrEasy]

Except Smith is excelling on the wing

Why not keep him there and see how long he can play well and responsibly?

I think we've already established that Smith can be great playing on Stone's line. He's under contract for next year, there's not much else we need to see from him the rest of the season. We can put him back on Stone's line next year if we want to.

Now I want to give Puempel a chance to show what he can do, and playing with Pageau and Stone would be a great opportunity.

And maybe Smith' confidence would carry over playing C on a line with Dzingel and Ryan? My suspicion is that Smith is looking better than he really is on Stone's line, and that he wasn't as bad as he looked on Neil's (or Greening's) line.

There's not much we can learn by playing Gomez instead of Puempel.

 

[MiscBrah]

Not to mention that a summer of working out all day sounds pretty awesome.

But I guess it's kind of impossible to put yourself in a pro athlete's shoes and adopt their perspective. These guys live in a different world.

I don't know why they can't go on a vacation and just workout while they are there. Go spend a month in Fiji and bring a personal trainer with you and stay at a place with a great gym.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Not to mention that a summer of working out all day sounds pretty awesome.

But I guess it's kind of impossible to put yourself in a pro athlete's shoes and adopt their perspective. These guys live in a different world.

Often forgotten are the sacrifices and ton of work that goes into it.

Easy for us to say "you guys don't know how good you have it" but the reality of it is that they put in an unbelievable amount of hard work to have it that good.

 

[bert]

I don't think they handled puempel properly. The up and down doesn't seem to have served him properly. Every player responds different to different methods. He's so petrified to make a play out there in fear of a benching or being sent back down

Camerons handling of non veterans this year has been pathetic. The double standards are the biggest reason this team is so bad. Different rules for different players so no one is playing the same style or system.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Camerons handling of non veterans this year has been pathetic. The double standards are the biggest reason this team is so bad. Different rules for different players so no one is playing the same style or system.

Veteran players are not rookies.

They shouldn't have the same standards and/or expectations place on them as rookies.

 

[Big Papi]

Camerons handling of non veterans this year has been pathetic. The double standards are the biggest reason this team is so bad. Different rules for different players so no one is playing the same style or system.

lol, wasn't this the same complainant about Pauly?

 

[Mingus Dew]

lol, wasn't this the same complainant about Pauly?

It's the same complaint made by every fanbase in the NHL.