Post-Game Talk: Sens @ Rangers: The misadventures of the Hobbit and the Lorax

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Nash had a good game.

MSL and Richards ... ehh...

3 Stars - Zucc, Stralman, Hagelin. Brassard

I thought Richards played a pretty good game. he set MSL up with 3 good passes and won two faceoffs that lead to good shots on goal. It wasn't a world-beating performance by any stretch, but by far the biggest difference between 55 pt NYR Richards and 75 pt Dallas/Tampa Richards is that on any given night for when he was on the latter teams, one of those chances would have gone in.

Nash was good, Hagelin was good, Stepan was in and out of the game and the MZA line was good. Other actually putting the damn puck in the net you couldn't ask for too much more from the forward group. The lack of finish is just a killer
 
Rangers need to get a wee bit more serious about playing a full game. They been a-slipping lately.

Yeah last two games since their best player by a mile got hurt. I hope they back in cause I don't see them beating anyone without Mac in the lineup. Ottawa?? Really?
 
The margins (and referee decisions) were definitely not on our side

  • Pouliot's miss in the opening minutes after a pass from Zucc
  • Rangers somehow ending up shorthanded after Neill gooning it up
  • Ottawa's third goal - was it a good goal?
  • Not scoring on any of our breakaways (I can remember St Louis and Nash had one each)

These cost us at least one point tonight
 
Look at where Lundqvist stopped that shot. Top of the crease.

I start Lundqvist against Carolina and Talbot against Buffalo and at Montreal.
 
I thought Richards played a pretty good game. he set MSL up with 3 good passes and won two faceoffs that lead to good shots on goal. It wasn't a world-beating performance by any stretch, but by far the biggest difference between 55 pt NYR Richards and 75 pt Dallas/Tampa Richards is that on any given night for when he was on the latter teams, one of those chances would have gone in.

Nash was good, Hagelin was good, Stepan was in and out of the game and the MZA line was good. Other actually putting the damn puck in the net you couldn't ask for too much more from the forward group. The lack of finish is just a killer

Where was the 4th line? AV has screwed that pooch and Boyle in another role is utterly useless. Wake up and get someone in there to play top 9 so BB goes back to the 4th line where he belongs.
 
I wish we had Neil some of you are so used to non hitting games that when a big check is thrown you get thrown for a tizzy...Clean hit by Neil and props to Staal for sticking up for himself..Sorry folks Hockey is a contact sport and sometimes boarders on illegal hits..Deal with it.
 
Yeah last two games since their best player by a mile got hurt. I hope they back in cause I don't see them beating anyone without Mac in the lineup. Ottawa?? Really?

Actually, I know about McDonagh. I watch the games. They need to tighten it up. Sorry if you think absolutely everything revolves around McDonagh. It's a team, other players and all that stuff.
 
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I wish we had Neil some of you are so used to non hitting games that when a big check is thrown you get thrown for a tizzy...Clean hit by Neil and props to Staal for sticking up for himself..Sorry folks Hockey is a contact sport and sometimes boarders on illegal hits..Deal with it.

yeah yeah Rangers showed that fight back and basically ended the game with 2:47 to go instead of having that time to tie.
 
I'm surprised so many people think that Nash seemed dangerous tonight, for the physical tools he has he really makes some bad decisions sometimes.... too many times he forcing stupid passes that result in turnovers, when he is in the zone he has to realize that it would be better to hold on to the puck than give it away as many times as he did.

As far as St. Louis goes, I can understand a guy being "snakebitten", but where is his brain right now? he is also making some awful decisions with the puck. He put himself offside on what would have been a great odd man rush opportunity and also made an awful decision to rip a terrible angle shot that ended up leaving the offensive zone, he just doesn't seem like a smart player right now.

Too many nights we have to rely on Brass/zucc/pouliot to give us something, because our guys that should be our "gamebreakers" are invisible
 
Wow.

The best road team in the history of the franchise, and we get this.

it's pretty rough seeing your team pinging 40 shots off of a second string goalie behind a conference-worst defence.

if that doesn't frustrate you then there's something wrong with you.

granted, the post-game hyperbole is a bit much... but still.
 
Sure, but to completely dismiss his game as awful is foolish and incorrect.

Words like "awful" are arbitrary ratings that vary from fan to fan. He either got his job done or he didn't and yet again, he didn't. How many times this year is that now?
 
Can't believe the sky is falling crowd in here. The Rangers are going to make the playoffs. I'd bet my life on it.

Yeah. This is pretty much every single loss. The same people with the same hyperbole.

Team's missing a top 6 LW and one of the best d-man in the game. They just barely lost. It sucks. They should/could have won. Such is hockey.

Having said that, I do have some specific criticisms based on what we saw tonight.

1. JT Miller or Fast need a call up. Playing good 4th liners on the line with Richards and a struggling MSL is pretty much throwing away an entire scoring line in addition to ruining a good 4th line. I guess Richards is done with his patch of decent play for the year. MSL has more in him than he's shown IMO, he needs better line mates. A lot of his mistakes are on him, but you come to a new team and you get stuck with a buyout candidate and Carcillo/Dom Moore/Boyle as one of the league's top scorers. That's misusing an asset IMO.

2. Richards on the PP still puzzles me. When was the last time he was effective playing the point?

3. The d-pairs are puzzling as well. Staal - Girardi, Moore - Stralman, Diaz - Klein should be the lineup IMO, especially against teams that don't have a ton of depth.

4. That "fight" was so weird. Drop the gloves and start punching, or just let it go. All the "I don't like you" talking and hugging is silly. If you want to prove something, prove it. If you don't, move on.
 
I'm surprised so many people think that Nash seemed dangerous tonight, for the physical tools he has he really makes some bad decisions sometimes.... too many times he forcing stupid passes that result in turnovers, when he is in the zone he has to realize that it would be better to hold on to the puck than give it away as many times as he did.

As far as St. Louis goes, I can understand a guy being "snakebitten", but where is his brain right now? he is also making some awful decisions with the puck. He put himself offside on what would have been a great odd man rush opportunity and also made an awful decision to rip a terrible angle shot that ended up leaving the offensive zone, he just doesn't seem like a smart player right now.

Too many nights we have to rely on Brass/zucc/pouliot to give us something, because our guys that should be our "gamebreakers" are invisible

this is exactly what i would say if i were able to articulate my thoughts at all well.
 
When you pin a team's offense on Nash, Richards, and St. Louis, you're going to have a bad time.
 
Actually, I know about McDonagh. I watch the games. They need to tighten it up. Sorry if you think absolutely everything revolves around McDonagh. It's a team, other players and all that stuff.

They suck without him; it's obvious. It shouldn't be that way but it is. So, he needs to get healthy and if Brass could hit an open net we'd have a point against a terrible team.
 
Words like "awful" are arbitrary ratings that vary from fan to fan. He either got his job done or he didn't and yet again, he didn't. How many times this year is that now?

Awful is being a liability. Nash was far from that. You want to criticize him cause he didn't score, fine. To say he was awful makes 0 sense.
 
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