OT: Sens Lounge LXXVIII | The Big Bang Theory Is Objectively Terrible Edition

[PoutineSp00nZ]

He's been a member of Parliament for 6 years. How much experience are you looking for? Time to move away from the old boys club in Canadian parliament if you ask me. I mean that quite literally.

If I voted I'd vote for Trudeau just so i wouldn't have to see Harper's ugly mug popping up at every hockey related function that doesn't involve him actually playing hockey.

 

[CanadianHockey]

Trudeau's inexperience is really worrisome, he may be able to steal some votes because of his family name but it will take more than a name to run a country. I really hope Canada doesn't do the whole 'trendy voting' thing that the US did with Obama. Obama promised 'change' and what did he do, just more of the same stuff the previous administrations had done.

His 'inexperience' is being overstated by other parties. Moreover, he could always reverse the trend of growing PM powers and lean more heavily on more experienced MPs.

Anyway, Obama is a poor comparable, IMO, largely because the two systems are wildly different. Fusion of the executive and legislative, coupled with the emergence of a viable third federal party.

Either way, I'm pretty interested in seeing the direction the country goes in after the next election. It'll almost certainly be a minority government and a roughly evenly divided House. If the CPC win, the NDP will likely be marginalized in the House on votes. If the NDP win, it's probably the CPC that are marginalized. If the Liberals win, I feel they'll try to work both angles. Hoping for a minority NDP government.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

The NDP doesn't have a chance

 

[Benjamin]

The Republicans are the ones blocking immigration reform and the US Air Force is currently bombing ISIS

Obama got no support because all the young people that voted for him failed to show up for the Congressional elections and those matter just as much as the Presidential ones. Now the Republicans are in control of Congress and blocking everything in an effort to make Obama look bad and it's working: people have no idea how government functions, they think the President can do whatever he wants and blame him when they all failed to support him beyond the election. Democracy only works if people are invested in it, not when they think it's a one-day event.

Obama is far from perfect and has certainly failed to live up to his promises but it isn't all on him either.

I dont like Obama at all but this 100% true.

The US is ****ed because of corrupt politicians that are easily being corrupted by a massive flaw in the law: political donations are unlimited and not made public. Congressmen are just disposable assets for corporations to buy or stop laws.

The only people that can change that law are the people that benefit from it.

This + what DMST said = Obama getting heat for anything and everything.

The NDP doesn't have a chance

Still getting my vote.

 

[saskriders]

Mine too

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

The NDP doesn't have a chance

Yeah, the NDP are probably likely to get less than 10% of the popular vote. The moderate votes that they collected from the last election will swing back to the Liberals under Trudeau. Even more people will vote Liberal as a 'get Harper out of power move' when they see the momentum that Trudeau gains. This is going to be a two horse election and I seriously won't be surprised if the Liberals get a majority. Don't underestimate the power of an active young vote under Trudeau and how much everywhere besides Alberta hate Harper.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

I'm just glad the Liberals didn't move to the left and instead forced the NDP to give up the centre it was trying to claim

I was very worried that we'd be stuck with far left (NDP) left (LPC) and right (CPC). As long as we have a centrist party they are the ones I will be supporting

 

[Cosmix]

I dont like Obama at all but this 100% true.

The US is ****ed because of corrupt politicians that are easily being corrupted by a massive flaw in the law: political donations are unlimited and not made public. Congressmen are just disposable assets for corporations to buy or stop laws.

The only people that can change that law are the people that benefit from it.

This + what DMST said = Obama getting heat for anything and everything.


Still getting my vote.

Mine too.

 

[PullHard]

There was a stabbing at Carleton today smdh

 

[mat_sens]

Yeah, the NDP are probably likely to get less than 10% of the popular vote. The moderate votes that they collected from the last election will swing back to the Liberals under Trudeau. Even more people will vote Liberal as a 'get Harper out of power move' when they see the momentum that Trudeau gains. This is going to be a two horse election and I seriously won't be surprised if the Liberals get a majority. Don't underestimate the power of an active young vote under Trudeau and how much everywhere besides Alberta hate Harper.

I think that's what most people will be surprised about. I know lots of people that didn't vote in the last election and are now full on Trudeau supporters. It's definitely going to be an interesting election.

 

[DrakeAndJosh]

Trudeau is about the same age that Harper was when Harper ran for the Alliance leadership. Harper also had very little in experience, he had a masters in economics but from what I can tell never really had any job in the field aside from occasionally lecturing at the university of calgary. Not to mention the experience that Trudeau would naturally have in politics just from being the son of the third longest serving PM in Canadian history. Also, the idea that conservatives push that law and economic students are the only ones who deserve to lead the country is absurd.

 

[Caeldan]

I'm just glad the Liberals didn't move to the left and instead forced the NDP to give up the centre it was trying to claim

I was very worried that we'd be stuck with far left (NDP) left (LPC) and right (CPC). As long as we have a centrist party they are the ones I will be supporting

Actually what we have is far left, left and far right...
Still need that centrist party (fiscally blue, socially purple(?!)... come on someone!). I still don't trust anything attached to the Liberal name.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

The Liberals, traditionally, are centre-right

They seem to be more centre-left now I agree

And the CPC isn't far right. They are mostly centre-right with a strong dash of crazy nutjob

 

[CanadianHockey]

Didn't realize the NDP had lost so much ground. The last time I looked at the polls showed them in a close third.

Will be happy if the NDP can influence a Liberal government to beef up social spending. Would like to see medicare expanded to include pharmaceutical coverage, optometry, and dental.

 

[BonkTastic]

The Liberals, traditionally, are centre-right

Historically over the long haul maybe, but they've been pretty much a center-left party since losing to Mulrooney.

It's nit-picking, though. They've been as close to a true centrist party as there is forever. Until now, I guess? They're still centrist from an economic perspective, they're just leaning a little further left socially under Trudeau in order to get the youth vote out.

 

[Caeldan]

Historically over the long haul maybe, but they've been pretty much a center-left party since losing to Mulrooney.

It's nit-picking, though. They've been as close to a true centrist party as there is forever. Until now, I guess? They're still centrist from an economic perspective, they're just leaning a little further left socially under Trudeau in order to get the youth vote out.

By centrist we mean they fence-sit of course.
And yeah, it's the far right nutjobs in the CPC that hurt the centre-right blues the most because no sane person honestly wants to be associated with them.

As an aside...
Anyone have any experience with pet insurance? Worth it? Any particular companies to recommend/avoid?

Plans-wise, to my eye seems that OSPCA and Trupanion are the best values. And Trupanion seems to be talked highly of, while OSPCA is seems to be underwritten by one of the other larger pet insurance companies that I think also handle CAA and PC pet insurance options.

 

[saskriders]

Didn't realize the NDP had lost so much ground. The last time I looked at the polls showed them in a close third.

Will be happy if the NDP can influence a Liberal government to beef up social spending. Would like to see medicare expanded to include pharmaceutical coverage, optometry, and dental.

They are releasing their platform soon. Hopefully the early start helps them.

Also, I think a lot of Trudeau's popularity is due solely to his name. Maybe a lot of people saying Liberal in poles could swing NDP

 

[MainDotC]

I'm so glad Sask is always there to start the political firestorm in this thread.

 

[FolignoQuantumLeap]

They are releasing their platform soon. Hopefully the early start helps them.

Also, I think a lot of Trudeau's popularity is due solely to his name. Maybe a lot of people saying Liberal in poles could swing NDP

Most of the ground the NDP made in the last election was in Quebec. Quebec will be turning Red with Trudeau at the helm. They will lose almost every seat gained there. The province is quick to forget, just look at the provincial election. Je me souviens?

Plus, it's a province that deeply supports legalization of marijuana. Legalization + vote out Harper + the name Trudeau = the Liberals will crush in La Belle Province as they historically have.

 

[bacon25]

Most of the ground the NDP made in the last election was in Quebec. Quebec will be turning Red with Trudeau at the helm. They will lose almost every seat gained there. The province is quick to forget, just look at the provincial election. Je me souviens?

Plus, it's a province that deeply supports legalization of marijuana. Legalization + vote out Harper + the name Trudeau = the Liberals will crush in La Belle Province as they historically have.

It's amazing how marijuana is a topic of political debate, seems like there are more important issues to focus on.

 

[BonkTastic]

It's amazing how marijuana is a topic of political debate, seems like there are more important issues to focus on.

Personally, I think it's a major financial issue almost as much as it is a social issue.

Decriminalizing & legalizing marijuana will not only save hundreds of millions nationally through police & prison budgets, but also be a revenue stream. I anticipate a LOT of the "have not" provinces will be very quick to monetize pot.

 

[McManked]

Thanks for the message HAWT

 

[saskriders]

Thanks for the message HAWT

Are you just trying to take out the "private" of "private message"


Or, are you trying to tell us something with that heart

 

[bacon25]

Personally, I think it's a major financial issue almost as much as it is a social issue.

Decriminalizing & legalizing marijuana will not only save hundreds of millions nationally through police & prison budgets, but also be a revenue stream. I anticipate a LOT of the "have not" provinces will be very quick to monetize pot.

I figured when it came to marijuana, Canada more or less was already on the boat with the idea. Any real opponents are few and far between these days, especially since Colorado and Washington seem to be thriving under their new laws.

 

[CanadianGuest]

Actually what we have is far left, left and far right...
Still need that centrist party (fiscally blue, socially purple(?!)... come on someone!). I still don't trust anything attached to the Liberal name.

This is correct. Far left is bad, far right is bad. I like the idea of a moderates party.