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coladin

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So, roughly 5 weeks then?

Up to two months if you're counting "from fertilization". Roughly 4 to 5 weeks from gestation.

Yes, around there. Going to the first ultrasound and hearing a heartbeat, everything changes!
 

Caeldan

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Am I the only one that doesn't care about who the leader of a party is?

Think it depends sometimes on your local riding. Some people will vote for a specific local candidate, while others vote party and then others vote on the leader
 

coladin

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If both parents dont want the kid and its just going to be born in to a terrible situation. Just abort it. We got enough humans as it is.

Or the Liberals won because its not hard to see the Conservatives are only interested in making the rich richer and the corporations more powerful while sucking everything possible out of the middle class and lower class.

I can't remember who it was, someone like Einstein or something, an important figure, that was supposed to be aborted. You never know and of course there is no one to protect the rights of that unborn child. On the other side of it, yes, being born in a terrible situation is not positive either, but the optimist in me thinks that out of terrible situations there may arise some important people.

Actually, the Liberals will be passing on more tax increases across the board with hydro rates going up, this new pension plan which will damage small business even more than the corporate tax rate increase, full day kindergarten which is glorified babysitting, at huge expense where financial analysts have stated that these programs are too costly.

Ontarians like programs, though, which is why the Liberals are around. Handouts are popular.

I think that while the PC are business friendly, so are the other parties in different ways. Going after unions is a big reason why the PCs were killed
 

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Think it depends sometimes on your local riding. Some people will vote for a specific local candidate, while others vote party and then others vote on the leader

My local riding when I lived in Ottawa, federally, was Pierre Poilievre, therefore making the incentive to vote against the PC's both a federal AND a local decision.

Worst MP in the house.
 

coladin

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Think it depends sometimes on your local riding. Some people will vote for a specific local candidate, while others vote party and then others vote on the leader

Lisa Mcleod is a good local candidate, but she is still being sued for libel, so a little bit of a losse cannon. The talk is John Baird is the person people are hoping will enter provincial politics. He is well liked.
 

coladin

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My local riding when I lived in Ottawa, federally, was Pierre Poilievre, therefore making the incentive to vote against the PC's both a federal AND a local decision.

Worst MP in the house.

He is weird. I saw him at Greco and he flexes in the change room. :shakehead
 

Do Make Say Think

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Sad to see that unions run Ontario

I cannot ****ing believe the Liberals got a majority after all that

Thanks a lot Toronto! You guys are ****ing idiots
 

YouGotAStuGoing

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My local riding when I lived in Ottawa, federally, was Pierre Poilievre, therefore making the incentive to vote against the PC's both a federal AND a local decision.

Worst MP in the house.

Voting in the same riding with MacLeod and Poilievre is the worst thing ever, especially wihh both seats so secure. Uppal didn't provide any resistance provincially, Keon did nothing federally in 2011, and frankly our NDP guy is insultingly invisible. I hate voting in this riding.
 

BonkTastic

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John Baird

Went to Bell High School in Bells Corners. His nickname was apparently "Rusty".

My old history teacher has hilariously embarrassing stories about him. Apparently, he used to talk himself into fights he didn't know how to talk his way out of, heh.

Two gay premiers in a row would be like a big F.U. to the rest of the world to get their act in gear about the whole LGBT rights thing.
 

Smash88

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Now every class can suffer together. :laugh:

The Liberals won because people think that Hudak and Horwath are horrible leaders. It wasn't about the platform. If anyone with charisma or any sense of likeability were in the same situation as Hudak was, it would have been a no contest.

It was the platform too though, Hudak had this won easily had he not come out with that asinine 100,000 job cuts.

Job cuts are very short sighted as there will be quite the crisis once the baby boomers start retiring, which has already begun. There are plenty of ways to downsize the PS without threatening people's livelihoods. Hudak was a divider, PC's needed a leader who would unify the centre-left away from the liberals, he did the exact opposite.
 

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He is weird. I saw him at Greco and he flexes in the change room. :shakehead

He's never met a baby he didn't want to shake hands with, and a constituent he didn't want to kiss.

Upon consulting a politics textbook, he discovered that he should be doing it the other way around, but by then, he was just set in his ways.
 

coladin

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Sad to see that unions run Ontario

I cannot ****ing believe the Liberals got a majority after all that

Thanks a lot Toronto! You guys are ****ing idiots

Thing is, Toronto is call Hogtown for a reason. they love handouts and hog all the provincial money. What they get for roads, infrastructure, services, etc...because they know the Liberals will give them what they want.

Ottawa has to fight for every red penny. Look at how Ottawa voted. Hudak says no to further LRT and Ottawa gets hammered.
 

FolignoQuantumLeap

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Most people think Wynne is a terrible leader, too.

... just... slightly less-so?

I was honestly surprised to see a +50% voter turnout... kicked a multi-decade trend!

Where did you find this number? I've been looking for numbers on voter turnout, declined votes and spoiled ballots but I can't find anything. The last I saw was 46% turnout but that was late last night.

I'm just glad Hudak is gone. The last thing we need in Ontario is the damn Tea Party with only the 1% in mind for most policy. The Liberals are a joke but I'm confident the PCs would have managed some irreparable damage in a short time.

I spoiled my ballot. This election was extremely depressing. We need a new moderate party in this province who will actually focus on important issues and not just pander to their electorate. We need to sort out our energy costs, continue to develop infrastructure in the North and merge the two school boards to erase the deficit. Do exactly the opposite of Hudak's plan for education. Don't increase classroom sizes, don't take away important credits and grants for post secondary students. Next step, full out investigation into every hospital's executive branch and use of funds. Put less people in those positions and more with actual experience in healthcare and not mucky mucks who did a master's and never interacted with a patient in a clinical setting.
 
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Benjamin

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I can't remember who it was, someone like Einstein or something, an important figure, that was supposed to be aborted. You never know and of course there is no one to protect the rights of that unborn child. On the other side of it, yes, being born in a terrible situation is not positive either, but the optimist in me thinks that out of terrible situations there may arise some important people.

Actually, the Liberals will be passing on more tax increases across the board with hydro rates going up, this new pension plan which will damage small business even more than the corporate tax rate increase, full day kindergarten which is glorified babysitting, at huge expense where financial analysts have stated that these programs are too costly.

Ontarians like programs, though, which is why the Liberals are around. Handouts are popular.

I think that while the PC are business friendly, so are the other parties in different ways. Going after unions is a big reason why the PCs were killed
You make it seem like all taxes do is give out free money to lazy people.
 

BonkTastic

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Where did you find this number?

Unofficial results say voter turnout for Ontario’s 2014 elections was 52.1 per cent. That is 3.9 percentage points higher than the 2011 elections, which brought out the lowest voter turnout Ontario had ever seen, with 48.2 per cent.

(Pssst.... ^that's a link to the article!^)

You make it seem like all taxes do is give out free money to lazy people.

Roads are lazy... they just lie there.

Thing is, Toronto is call Hogtown for a reason. they love handouts

Why did they vote in Rob Ford, then?


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Triple-post, y'all. Take THAT!!!
 
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FolignoQuantumLeap

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Deku

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My parents were friends with Ryan Smyth's parents and used to know James Reimer's wife.
 
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