OT: Sens Lounge LXXV | Future Thread

[Mr Invidious]

I think you missed the point. It's not damning all men, it's damning a line of thinking that can be perfectly symbolized by this 'friendzone' ******** that's popping up in memes everywhere.

And you can't tell me that the courts aren't way too easy on rapists and other sexual aggressors. Or that generally speaking men have advantages in society. That's just the society we live in, and I don't blame women one bit for fighting to balance the playing field.

The method isn't always right, and there is a massive difference between a feminist and an extremist. But that doesn't mean the cause isn't just.

I do agree with you. Pretty much every single point.

I'm speaking on the subject of feminism-extremists. But I believe what Smeddy posted should be considered that line of thinking. You can't objectify men as one and the same, just like men can't objectify women one and the same. It's a two-way street.

She was speaking with a lot of clear disdain for men in that rant rather than speaking about the act.

Sexual offenders deserve stricter penalties. Women deserve equal rights. I'm on board. But I certainly don't care for the mindset that some women have that they need to try and fight for superiority rather than equality.

 

[PaGEEsBack]

Of course, victim blaming.

Or, maybe we can entertain the option that other people have agency as well, and hold those individuals responsible for their actions. Not a tough leap.

If all actions have consequences and you can only control your own actions - who's to blame when something bad happens?

The 'perp' will face the consequences of their own actions. It won't do anything to help or protect the victim if they continue to deny ownership of their own actions and resulting consequences.

If you know your cute little shorts with 'JUICEY' scrawled on the rear leads to unwanted attention from the worst kind of people - well, only one person can really 'decide' what happens. You can write your own book so to say.

 

[YouGotAStuGoing]

The 'perp' will face the consequences of their own actions. It won't do anything to help or protect the victim if they continue to deny ownership of their own actions and resulting consequences.

If you know your cute little shorts with 'JUICEY' scrawled on the rear leads to unwanted attention from the worst kind of people - well, only one person can really 'decide' what happens. You can write your own book so to say.

This definitely falls under the scope of "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure." The perpetrator will always be at fault, that should be fairly obvious. But if you can do something to put the odds in your favour, why wouldn't you?

 

[PaGEEsBack]

A man terrified of drowning usually avoids boating.

 

[Baby Ryan]

And the funniest thing in all of this is school dress codes are written up and enforce by the people who need it most - the faculty. Jealous frumpy old women and aging horndogs. Male student's care about exposed bra straps as much as female students care about boxers hanging out from low hanging jeans - about 0.


It always seems to be the loud and in charge crowd who can't control themselves.

I'm still in High School (almost done, thank god) and I approve this message!

I remember 2 weeks ago, the announcer was briefly reminding everyone about the dress code and mentioned "we don't want to see any cheeks". Me and my teacher laughed so hard.

 

[YouGotAStuGoing]

I'm still in High School (almost done, thank god) and I approve this message!

I remember 2 weeks ago, the announcer was briefly reminding everyone about the dress code and mentioned "we don't want to see any cheeks". Me and my teacher laughed so hard.

Tell me you showed up at their office wearing a ski mask...

 

[coladin]

I think that 14yr old girl's parents have failed that child and society. That is the problem with kids these days. They run the household and have no respect for authority or rules because their parents don't have any either.

 

[Baby Ryan]

Tell me you showed up at their office wearing a ski mask...

Maybe....

 

[18Hossa]

As long as it covers their genitalia then it should be fine no?

 

[Caeldan]

RE: Spaghetti straps -- it's not 'professional' to show your bra straps. That's the line you draw at schools/presentable dress code. Could you show up to a meeting with a client in that? (outside of hipster professions anyway)

RE: Friendzone memes - that's been around forever on the internet. Required reading: http://www.ladderytheory.com (NSFW language throughout)
That site has existed since 2003.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

I think that 14yr old girl's parents have failed that child and society. That is the problem with kids these days. They run the household and have no respect for authority or rules because their parents don't have any either.

Wow

Talk about over-the-top

 

[McManked]

RE: Spaghetti straps -- it's not 'professional' to show your bra straps. That's the line you draw at schools/presentable dress code. Could you show up to a meeting with a client in that? (outside of hipster professions anyway)

RE: Friendzone memes - that's been around forever on the internet. Required reading: http://www.ladderytheory.com (NSFW language throughout)
That site has existed since 2003.

Good lord though, do people actually think high school is a "professional" environment that teaches you anything about the real world?

Because it doesn't.

 

[YouGotAStuGoing]

Good lord though, do people actually think high school is a "professional" environment that teaches you anything about the real world?

Because it doesn't.

It's not so much what it does that matters in this case, as much as it is what it's supposed to be doing.

 

[McManked]

It's not so much what it does that matters in this case, as much as it is what it's supposed to be doing.

I disagree then that spaghetti straps have anything to do with it though.

Ideals and what high school is supposed to be only go so far, any sane person knows that. Anyone who argues that showing a spaghetti strap is wrong is either completely stupid, stuck in 1934, or at the very least stupid in their clothing ideals.

By the very same argument we shouldn't be able to wear t-shirts to school because it's not professional either.

 

[Caeldan]

I disagree then that spaghetti straps have anything to do with it though.

Ideals and what high school is supposed to be only go so far, any sane person knows that. Anyone who argues that showing a spaghetti strap is wrong is either completely stupid, stuck in 1934, or at the very least stupid in their clothing ideals.

By the very same argument we shouldn't be able to wear t-shirts to school because it's not professional either.

Well, I went to an actual uniformed high school when I went - so, T-shirts weren't allowed except on the last Friday of a month.

But T-shirts are acceptable generally as business casual (barring 'offensive logos') if you're not client facing.

 

[Benjamin]

I hate professionalism and formality. So pointless.

 

[Deku]

I hate professionalism and formality. So pointless.

I feel the same. Being myself > faking being formal.

 

[McManked]

Well, I went to an actual uniformed high school when I went - so, T-shirts weren't allowed except on the last Friday of a month.

But T-shirts are acceptable generally as business casual (barring 'offensive logos') if you're not client facing.

Maybe in modern day business exceptions, but if someone tells you it's business casual and you don't know any other info, you better not show up in a t-shirt.

I refuse to believe that wearing a tshirt should be ok but wearing spaghetti strap isn't. Like what the hell.

 

[BondraTime]

I feel the same. Being myself > faking being formal.

That will all change once you get to a certain age/point of your life

 

[Caeldan]

Maybe in modern day business exceptions, but if someone tells you it's business casual and you don't know any other info, you better not show up in a t-shirt.

I refuse to believe that wearing a tshirt should be ok but wearing spaghetti strap isn't. Like what the hell.

Muscle tops aren't acceptable but T-shirts are... Bare shoulders is not acceptable in business unless it's for a woman's top that is wide enough to cover her bra strap (and we come full circle!)

But yes I agree, unless told otherwise I'd at least wear a polo with a collar if it's warm.

 

[Caeldan]

I hate professionalism and formality. So pointless.

I feel the same. Being myself > faking being formal.

Professionalism and formality have two very important functions:
1) Minimizing accidental insults when different cultures meet.
2) CYA purposes

 

[Deku]

That will all change once you get to a certain age/point of your life

Yeah, probably. Not feeling it right now though.

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I considered writing a speech for my 10,000th post, but I decided not to pull a Manked.

 

[McManked]

Hey I'm a verb now, cool.

I love that in my program/profession I get to wear suits at least ~25 times a year.

Note to others, never be the guy that wears a suit for NO reason. It's now my pet peeve. Sorry to any of you here who have done this.

 

[18Hossa]

Yeah, probably. Not feeling it right now though.

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I considered writing a speech for my 10,000th post, but I decided not to pull a Manked.

How many posts do I have? Do i have 3500 yet?

 

[Super Cake]

I ****ing hate having a swimming pool. It is just too much work to keep it clean and working. If i had my way, i would just empty it and fill it with rocks.