OT: Sens Lounge - Golf season edition

[Ice-Tray]

follow-up

I took Job 2

love you all, thanks for the advice

Awesome! Good luck

 

[Stylizer1]

lol, yeah. I get the concept of paying poor countries not to go inidustrialized to cut down world emissions, but at the end of the day, it does nothing to help. What we need is to have western countries make the switch to nuclear, and cut down a lot of the plastic usage. But even then, it's pretty much too late. This planet is trashed beyond repair.

Just for shit's and giggles

Ottawa is in tornado alley.

Canada records the second most tornadoes in the world after the US.

This. Just. In.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/tornado-alley-moving-to-ontario-quebec-experts-warn-1.6907140

Are more tornadoes coming to Ontario? Twister-trackers see signs the bull’s-eye is shifting

In recent years, a team of scientists at Western University has observed an eastward shift in tornado activity. And it presents new dangers.

www.thestar.com

Ontario’s tornado alley stretches into our region

Environment Canada say Ontario’s tornado alley does stretch into our area and so far this season four of the seven confirmed tornadoes have happened in our region.

barrie.ctvnews.ca

"The frequency of tornadoes is sporadic, Coulson says there are two reasons we’re hearing about them more often.


These areas have more people living in them then there were back in the 80s and 90s. We also have the social media phenomenon – giving people the mechanism to report it as it’s happening,” added Coulson."

I would also add we have better technology to track tornadoes than before.

2 articles from this year and the last one is from 2014.

2009:

19 twisters hit Ontario during Canada's worst tornado outbreak - The Weather Network

On the day in weather history, 19 tornadoes occurred in Ontario.

www.theweathernetwork.com

 

[Stylizer1]

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Just for shit's and giggles

Ottawa is in tornado alley.

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Canada records the second most tornadoes in the world after the US.

This. Just. In.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/tornado-alley-moving-to-ontario-quebec-experts-warn-1.6907140

Are more tornadoes coming to Ontario? Twister-trackers see signs the bull’s-eye is shifting

In recent years, a team of scientists at Western University has observed an eastward shift in tornado activity. And it presents new dangers.

www.thestar.com

Ontario’s tornado alley stretches into our region

Environment Canada say Ontario’s tornado alley does stretch into our area and so far this season four of the seven confirmed tornadoes have happened in our region.

barrie.ctvnews.ca

"The frequency of tornadoes is sporadic, Coulson says there are two reasons we’re hearing about them more often.


These areas have more people living in them then there were back in the 80s and 90s. We also have the social media phenomenon – giving people the mechanism to report it as it’s happening,” added Coulson."

I would also add we have better technology to track tornadoes than before.

2 articles from this year and the last one is from 2014.

2009:

19 twisters hit Ontario during Canada's worst tornado outbreak - The Weather Network

On the day in weather history, 19 tornadoes occurred in Ontario.

www.theweathernetwork.com

It's weird. I don't recall tornadoes causing so much damage before Dunrobin. Feels like they're getting stronger, at the very least.

 

[Stylizer1]

It's weird. I don't recall tornadoes causing so much damage before Dunrobin. Feels like they're getting stronger, at the very least.

I think most happen in rural areas so they are insignificant to our daily lives. Like forest fires, we see them every year on the news but until we experience one they are not priorities. We might go another 10 years before we have smoke like we had or maybe in august. You never know.

The internet magnifies everything so they appear closer than they are.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

lol, yeah. I get the concept of paying poor countries not to go inidustrialized to cut down world emissions, but at the end of the day, it does nothing to help. What we need is to have western countries make the switch to nuclear, and cut down a lot of the plastic usage. But even then, it's pretty much too late. This planet is trashed beyond repair.

Heard this back in the early seventies… as the “science“ was convinced we were heading into another ice age, and that we had reached “peek oil” and oil would be gone by the eighties….

 

[Cosmix]

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What about earthquakes?

 

[Cosmix]

 

[Stylizer1]

What about earthquakes?

What about them?

 

[Qward]

Heard this back in the early seventies… as the “science“ was convinced we were heading into another ice age, and that we had reached “peek oil” and oil would be gone by the eighties….





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Technically we are still in an ice age, since the poles having ice. We are coming out of it a lot faster obviously because of what we have been doing to the planet.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

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Neat map. I didn't know there was so much activity up north. I wonder though, if that can be explained by the melting permafrost.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

Technically we are still in an ice age, since the poles having ice. We are coming out of it a lot faster obviously because of what we have been doing to the planet.

Or that is what “they” would have you believe. Nature has much more impact on the changes in climate, dwarfing whatever ”they” are trying to convince you what we are doing.

Everytime something ”they” can spin in an attempt to convince you something in happening more often, because of human activity and therefore proof of their claims of human induced climate change…. The facts don’t back them up, because ”they” know most people won’t do any research to verify their claims.

for instance “they” claimed the wild fires in Canada are “increasing in frequency due to climate change” when the data does not show that at all, in fact it shows there are fewer wild fires now.

7 Big Failed Environmentalist Predictions

Why not believe the environmentalists on global warming? Because they have a long history of failed predictions and bogus prognostications of doom.

thefederalist.com

 

[Stylizer1]

Neat map. I didn't know there was so much activity up north. I wonder though, if that can be explained by the melting permafrost.

During the last glacial period, much of northern Europe, Asia, North America, Greenland and Antarctica was covered by ice sheets, which reached up to three kilometres thick during the glacial maximum about 20,000 years ago. The enormous weight of this ice caused the surface of the Earth's crust to deform and warp downward, forcing the viscoelastic mantle material to flow away from the loaded region. At the end of each glacial period when the glaciers retreated, the removal of this weight led to slow (and still ongoing) uplift or rebound of the land and the return flow of mantle material back under the deglaciated area. Due to the extreme viscosity of the mantle, it will take many thousands of years for the land to reach an equilibrium level.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Or that is what “they” would have you believe. Nature has much more impact on the changes in climate, dwarfing whatever ”they” are trying to convince you what we are doing.

Everytime something ”they” can spin in an attempt to convince you something in happening more often, because of human activity and therefore proof of their claims of human induced climate change…. The facts don’t back them up, because ”they” know most people won’t do any research to verify their claims.

for instance “they” claimed the wild fires in Canada are “increasing in frequency due to climate change” when the data does not show that at all, in fact it shows there are fewer wild fires now.

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Look at 2020 wow, Covid lockdowns sure had an influence, shows humans have a big affect on them.
Can’t wait to see 2023. Likely off the chart, thanks for posting.

 

[Micklebot]

Look at 2020 wow, Covid lockdowns sure had an influence, shows humans have a big affect on them.
Can’t wait to see 2023. Likely off the chart, thanks for posting.

What's odd is the number of fires is mostly in line with normal year to year variance, but the area burned is way down. As for lockdowns having an influence, I'm not sure, 2019 (zero lockdowns) and 2020 (lots of lockdowns) have almost identical # of incidents recorded. What about lockdowns made those incidents less likely to spread into greater area burned?

The data presented shows a trend of less incidents and fewer extreme incidents in terms of area burned, but the baseline for area burned seem to be moving up

No indication as to the impact of expanding population, regulation changes, improved fire fighting techniques or technology, ect, so it really doesn't give any insight as to what impact climate change could be having. One hypothesis could be increased awareness and regulations are leading to fewer incidents despite growing population, however generally dryer conditions result in those incidents spreading quickly. We appear however to be better equipped to not let fires get out of hand as they did in 89, 94 and 95.

The point isn't that I believe the hypothesis above to be true, it's untested and I am by no means an expert, just that looking at a simple data plot with zero context of the variables that influence the data can lead to more than one interpretation of the root cause and when people throw out something like that as proof with zero attemp to explore the hidden variables that influence it, it's likely in search of evidence to support a preconceived conclusion rather than exploring the data to reveal a truth

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Ypu can have a look at the thread
Here are a couple more reputable sources with info on it

Is China really leading the clean energy revolution? Not exactly | Li Shuo

The country generates more solar energy than the rest of the world combined, but burns half the planet’s coal, says Li Shuo of Greenpeace East Asia

www.theguardian.com

China Invests $546 Billion in Clean Energy, Far Surpassing the U.S.

China accounted for nearly half of the world's low-carbon spending in 2022, which could challenge U.S. efforts to bolster domestic clean energy manufacturing

www.scientificamerican.com

Climate change: China's green power surge offers hope on warming

A boom in wind and solar energy in China may curb emissions faster than expected, a report says.

www.bbc.com

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Crazy Men's final at Wimbledon 27+ minute game 13 break points Alcarez up 2 sets -1 on Djokovic

 

[Cosmix]

Neat map. I didn't know there was so much activity up north. I wonder though, if that can be explained by the melting permafrost.

That part surprised me too.

 

[Stylizer1]

A picture speaks a thousand words.

 

[aragorn]

While the west is moving at a snail's pace towards renewable energy China is well on it's way with the production of electric vehicles, solar panels, wind turbines & battery storage. I imagine at some future point the entire world will be electrified & powered by solar, wind, geothermal, tide technology & battery storage, we really are in the enfancy stage. Tony Seba has been talking about this transformation for the last decade.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

While the west is moving at a snail's pace towards renewable energy China is well on it's way with the production of electric vehicles, solar panels, wind turbines & battery storage. I imagine at some future point the entire world will be electrified & powered by solar, wind, geothermal, tide technology & battery storage, we really are in the enfancy stage. Tony Seba has been talking about this transformation for the last decade.

I don’t buy the Chinese propaganda that makes the claims of being a leader in Green Energy…. Actions speak louder than words…. China leads the World in constructing Coal Fired electricity generating plants, and have for well over a couple of decades…. And where does a lot of their coal come from? Well from the land of the enviros of course.

Yes, anti-pipeline Vancouver really is North America’s largest exporter of coal

A city dead set against expanding petroleum exports is decidedly less irked about another type of fossil fuel

nationalpost.com

https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/27/energy/china-new-coal-plants-climate-report-intl-hnk/index.html

 

[DrEasy]

The Tour de France seems exciting this year. Unfortunately I've been traveling and haven't been able to follow closely.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

I don't want to look like a tinfoil hatter, but I'm not taking anything China says at face value. I'm sure they do have some solar and wind capability, but not nearly as much (or as powerful) as they claim. Just look at their covid "statistics."

 

[Cosmix]

While the west is moving at a snail's pace towards renewable energy China is well on it's way with the production of electric vehicles, solar panels, wind turbines & battery storage. I imagine at some future point the entire world will be electrified & powered by solar, wind, geothermal, tide technology & battery storage, we really are in the enfancy stage. Tony Seba has been talking about this transformation for the last decade.

I want a driverless car in my old age. Just hoping and go while surfing the net, watching videos, etc.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]