Weekes: Senators willing to trade high pick or prospect to dump Nikita Zaitsev's contract

[The Devilish Buffoon]

It still boggles my mind the leafs were able to trade Zaitsev with zero retained. 3 years later and it’s gonna cost a 1st to move him

Lol, classic you.

No, it won't cost a 1st to move him. What this will probably work out to is Ottawa giving up a 3rd (2020) + mid-prospect (to dump Zaitsev) for 3yrs of Brown and 4yrs of Zaitsev.

To be clear, I am not saying it will just take a mid-prospect to dump Zaitsev. Ottawa traded Brown for a 2nd, which I suspect will be roughly cancelled out by the cost of dumping Zaitsev (+ a mid prospect).

 

[Akrapovince]

Lol, classic you.

No, it won't cost a 1st to move him. What this will probably work out to is Ottawa giving up a 3rd (2020) + mid-prospect (to dump Zaitsev) for 3yrs of Brown and 4yrs of Zaitsev.

To be clear, I am not saying it will just take a mid-prospect to dump Zaitsev. Ottawa traded Brown for a 2nd, which I suspect will be roughly cancelled out by the cost of dumping Zaitsev (+ a mid prospect).

Mid can be anywhere from Latimer to Kleven, our goalies are probably safe but hopefully the draft pick will level out the range of mid prospects.

 

[Behn Wilson]

Hawks could use another second round pick and he could be another body for the tank for the next year plus.

I would have Hawks take him along with a 2nd rounder and if Hawks have to send something just include a non prospect like Ian Mitchel who they can just send to the minors and not effect Ottawa's cap.

 

[Static]

Seems like an overpayment by the Ducks. We take on more salary. Give a useful player. Take an extra year all to move up about 40-50 spots?

Describing it this way is selling it well short when the odds of getting an NHL player in picks 15-20 are exponentially better than getting one at pick 60.

With the amount of picks Anaheim has upcoming they should probably package a couple because they are going to get into contract trouble with so many prospects to sign.

 

[deadhead]

He has a 10 team no trade list, I'll bet a team that's on it.
However, if we have cap room due to LTIR, maybe a 3 way deal.

 

[LevelingSolo]

Pierre Dorion needs to be gone asap

 

[Tanknation]

Zaitsev

for

Edmunson or Matheson

Lol why? Montreal can get a 2nd for Edmunson at TDL. Plus get a 1st or 2nd and a prospect for taking on Zaitsev. Makes no sense.

 

[Akrapovince]

Hawks could use another second round pick and he could be another body for the tank for the next year plus.

I would have Hawks take him for a 2nd rounder and if Hawks have to send something just include a non prospect like Ian Mitchel who they can just send to the minors and not effect Ottawa's cap.

I would take future considerations.

 

[rt]

I'm talking about the proposed practice of a team paying another team to take a player off waivers

Doesn’t happen because it doesn’t need to happen. The player will waive 10/10.

 

[93gilmour93]

 

[Neiler]

I feel this will either end up being Zaitsev + 2nd for nothing or an expiring contract, or it will be Zaitsev + 2nd + next year 1st + prospect for a decent top 4 defender.

 

[Mr Positive]

Doesn’t happen because it doesn’t need to happen. The player will waive 10/10.

Dadonov didn't waive his NTC last year when Vegas was desperate to move him for cap reasons.

Why didn't they pay the same assets they would have in a trade, but instead did this backroom deal method of claiming Dadonov on waivers? They didn't do it because that isn't allowed.

Zaitsev also gets regular playing time on the Sens. I doubt he'd take the threat of waivers seriously. Ottawa isn't going to pay him all that money in the AHL just to make a point

 

[Bouboumaster]

Lol why? Montreal can get a 2nd for Edmunson at TDL. Plus get a 1st or 2nd and a prospect for taking on Zaitsev. Makes no sense.

It makes senses if " + " is good

 

[Deuce Awesome]

Watch some blockbuster "both teams empty the trash trade" like the Phaneuf deal

"In addition to Phaneuf, whom the Leafs had been shopping for more than a year, the Senators acquired forwards Matt Frattin, Casey Bailey and Ryan Rupert plus defence prospect Cody Donaghey from the Maple Leafs in exchange for defenceman Jared Cowen, forwards Colin Greening, Milan Michalek and Tobias Lindberg, as well as Ottawa’s second-round pick in the 2017 NHL Draft."

Poor Phaneuf went from "Neon Dion" to getting traded for junk over and over again.

 

[Deuce Awesome]

I feel this will either end up being Zaitsev + 2nd for nothing or an expiring contract, or it will be Zaitsev + 2nd + next year 1st + prospect for a decent top 4 defender.

Well it cost the Leafs Connor Brown, which the Sens got a couple serviceable years out of, to get rid of Zaitsev initially. Plus the Leafs took back Cici, who didn't pan out for either team and other pieces I forget.

Too bad the battle of Ontario went from what it was to flipping junk back and forth.

 

[HuGort]

Unprotected first pick Habs might be able to do it. We may trade Eddy soon to free up cap space

 

[ole ole]

Zaitsev

for

Edmunson or Matheson

Why would the Habs trade the better player.

Are you serious?

Well i'm not one that is into conspiracy theories.

 

[ole ole]

Don't blame the messenger. Not claiming he's right or wrong.


this part.
- Kevin Weekes




So it would be a trade similar to the one made between the Montreal Canadiens and Calgary Flames involving Sean Monahan.

The Ottawa Sens would be willing to offer a solid draft pick, or a good prospect, with Nikita Zaitsev, for future considerations.

Considering recent similar trades in the NHL, the price for Ottawa will most likely be a first round pick (or a second round pick + a prospect)

The whole article here.

Hughes and his counterparts now have the opportunity to acquire a free first-round pick or prospect

Earlier today, insider Kevin Weekes revealed one of his famous important exclusive pieces of information.

www.habsfanatics.com

Many teams would be lining up to get a shot at that 1st.

 

[Hattrick Kane]

Don't blame the messenger. Not claiming he's right or wrong.


this part.
- Kevin Weekes




So it would be a trade similar to the one made between the Montreal Canadiens and Calgary Flames involving Sean Monahan.

The Ottawa Sens would be willing to offer a solid draft pick, or a good prospect, with Nikita Zaitsev, for future considerations.

Considering recent similar trades in the NHL, the price for Ottawa will most likely be a first round pick (or a second round pick + a prospect)

The whole article here.

Hughes and his counterparts now have the opportunity to acquire a free first-round pick or prospect

Earlier today, insider Kevin Weekes revealed one of his famous important exclusive pieces of information.

www.habsfanatics.com

Many teams would be lining up to get a shot at that 1st.

It would probably be the 2024 first, which the hawks would still be all over.

Hawks and Sens make good trade partners. They can either do a straight cap dump or make a bigger trade for a top 4 dman with term and even retention (Murphy, McCabe)

 

[ole ole]

Don't blame the messenger. Not claiming he's right or wrong.


this part.
- Kevin Weekes




So it would be a trade similar to the one made between the Montreal Canadiens and Calgary Flames involving Sean Monahan.

The Ottawa Sens would be willing to offer a solid draft pick, or a good prospect, with Nikita Zaitsev, for future considerations.

Considering recent similar trades in the NHL, the price for Ottawa will most likely be a first round pick (or a second round pick + a prospect)

The whole article here.

Hughes and his counterparts now have the opportunity to acquire a free first-round pick or prospect

Earlier today, insider Kevin Weekes revealed one of his famous important exclusive pieces of information.

www.habsfanatics.com

Many teams would be lining up to get a shot at that 1st.

It would probably be the 2024 first, which the hawks would still be all over.

Hawks and Sens make good trade partners. They can either do a straight cap dump or make a bigger trade for a top 4 dman with term and even retention (Murphy, McCabe)

2024 1st and you still have teams lining up.

 

[Neiler]

Don't blame the messenger. Not claiming he's right or wrong.


this part.

Not blaming the messenger here, you're just passing along something you found. Two things here. 1) it's a habs fan site so the Monahan deal is the measuring stick in that mindset, and 2) the way this was pasted into this thread makes it look like Weekes said the rest of this. He didn't in case anyone thought that like I did. It was the author speculating with the Weekes quote above his name.

- Kevin Weekes




So it would be a trade similar to the one made between the Montreal Canadiens and Calgary Flames involving Sean Monahan.

The Ottawa Sens would be willing to offer a solid draft pick, or a good prospect, with Nikita Zaitsev, for future considerations.

Considering recent similar trades in the NHL, the price for Ottawa will most likely be a first round pick (or a second round pick + a prospect)

 

[GaryPoppins]

Friedman has hinted many times on 32 thoughts or Marek's radio show that Myers doesn't want to go to OTT and may have already blocked a trade using his NTC.

Ottawa thanks Myers from saving them from themselves. He’s hot garbage

 

[rt]

Dadonov didn't waive his NTC last year when Vegas was desperate to move him for cap reasons.

Why didn't they pay the same assets they would have in a trade, but instead did this backroom deal method of claiming Dadonov on waivers? They didn't do it because that isn't allowed.

Zaitsev also gets regular playing time on the Sens. I doubt he'd take the threat of waivers seriously. Ottawa isn't going to pay him all that money in the AHL just to make a point

This doesn’t make any sense. They didn’t think they had to because they botched his NTC. That’s common knowledge that they made a mistake. Also, I’m not saying teams get paid in assets to make waiver claims. I’m saying they don’t have to. In the case of veteran players who are 100% sure they won’t be claimed, they’ll ALWAYS waive their NTC to stay in the NHL rather than face waivers and demotion to the AHL. There are no exceptions where there is no mental illness.

 

[Captain97]

Monohan cost a 1st and his cap was over 6 million.

Zaitsev is only 4.5 I'd expect him to cost less to dump. The 1st for Monohan who Noone was sure could play well again wass expected to be a late 1st.

Zaitsev I'm guessing will cost Ottawa their 2nd this year to dump or they use their high 1st to get a good player and dump zaitsev in that deal.

Those are the only 2 that make sense for both Ottawa and the team acquiring Zaitsev

 

[bert]

Monohan cost a 1st and his cap was over 6 million.

Zaitsev is only 4.5 I'd expect him to cost less to dump. The 1st for Monohan who Noone was sure could play well again wass expected to be a late 1st.

Zaitsev I'm guessing will cost Ottawa their 2nd this year to dump or they use their high 1st to get a good player and dump zaitsev in that deal.

Those are the only 2 that make sense for both Ottawa and the team acquiring Zaitsev

This makes no sense for Ottawa they have 5 million in cap space this year. Paying a premium to move him now when it will be alot cheaper next year doesnt make sense for them on any level. Especially where they are sitting in the standings. If they were pushing and in a playoff spot sure dumping him now for picks might make sense if they are adding a good player but thats not the case. Their two best players are 20 years old, this team needs to keep its prospect pool stocked so when its actually time to go get someone they have the assets to make a push.