Weekes: Senators willing to trade high pick or prospect to dump Nikita Zaitsev's contract

[rt]

I find it hard to invest in an idea where the reason there is no evidence for it is that people want to keep it hush hush. It's the same reason I only look into conspiracy theories for fun.

I still say if this was for real we would at least have insiders reporting on it, even if nothing came of it.

I have no idea what you’re talking about.

100% of NHL players with NTCs would choose to play for the Arizona Coyotes over the Belleville Senators. There are no exceptions to this.

 

[elitepete]

Myers seems logical. Saves Canucks 1.5 million a season plus Ottawa gets someone actually serviceable.

Myers to Ottawa

Zaitsev + 2nd

Canucks would probably need to retain in this trade.

I don’t see Vancouver doing this.

I don’t see Ottawa either.

We want a blank slate defensemen, we will pay a premium to achieve that.

Umm Vancouver would easily do it. I’d even retain like 1m. Would the Sens do it in that case?

 

[AmadiosAmigos]

Zaitsev, 1st, Boucher/Ostapchuk,

for

Tony Deangelo

 

[Static]

Zaitsev, Ottawa 1st top 10 protected

For

Kulikov 50% retained and Boston 2nd

 

[Gstank]

I would think that the rumoured potential trade between Ottawa and Vancouver for Myers for Zaitsev and a prospect but the teams couldn't agree on the prospect and maybe one of the teams was on someones NTC

 

[DavidBL]

Zaitsev, Ottawa 1st top 10 protected

For

Kulikov 50% retained and Boston 2nd

Seems like an overpayment by the Ducks. We take on more salary. Give a useful player. Take an extra year all to move up about 40-50 spots?

 

[KevinRedkey]

Lmao - people think they are getting a 1st for eating a year of Zaitsev? Good luck with that...

 

[SpezDispenser]

Lmao - people think they are getting a 1st for eating a year of Zaitsev? Good luck with that...

Holy cow, no kidding.

 

[JlindiesANA]

Lmao - people think they are getting a 1st for eating a year of Zaitsev? Good luck with that...

I think it will be around a 23’ second + b prospect to a rebuilding team. A team that has no intentions of competing for a few years

 

[ole ole]

Ah yes thanks, ten is the max places to move.

Actually 11 . You can move down 10 spots

I’m sure it happens often.

Show us one.

 

[bert]

D Jack Johnson (UFA)


D Nikita Zaitsev (1 x $4.5M)
LW Egor Sokolov (RFA)
Sens 2023 2nd Round Pick

Hawks get a young winger to plug right into lineup for rebuild and yet another 2nd round pick

Yuck. Sens don't need to move Zaitsev now they have cap space. They need to do it next year. Which will cost significantly less than right now.

Sens are not a cap team.

And DeBrincat will cost a lot more than 6.5 millions next year. Shane Pinto off ELC as well. Zaitsev must go to get Chychrun AND keep DeBrincat, even if they become 100% a cap team.

Might be with new owensership. They aren't far off rn.

They're not getting Chychrun.

There's money for Pinto and Debrincat if they bridge Pinto. Hamonic, Watson, Talbot will all be replaced with players on ELC's. There's some buy out money coming available.

They'll have to trade Zaitsev probably in the offseason or at the draft when someone wants to move up or grab a guy in the 2nd round. They don't have to do it now. I don't believe Dorion has this type of authority until new ownership is finalized.

 

[thebonscott]

Montreal should be all over this

 

[sennysensen]

I suspect the Sens are setting something up for July 1 when Zaitsev has 1 year left with a $4.5 million cap hit, and $2.5 million salary remaining. It would make no sense to trade now and have to pay way more when Z's contract doesn't hurt the this season. Looks like an Arizona special, where they can get another $2 million below the salary floor in cash saved.

Zero chance Zaitsev is traded before July 1 when the $2 million cash is paid.

 

[Bouboumaster]

Zaitsev

for

Edmunson or Matheson

 

[HarrisonFord]

It still boggles my mind the leafs were able to trade Zaitsev with zero retained. 3 years later and it’s gonna cost a 1st to move him

 

[General Fanager]

Lmao - people think they are getting a 1st for eating a year of Zaitsev? Good luck with that...

I don't think so either.


I think The Sens get a player that is maybe worth a 2nd or 3rd but the deal bumps to a 1st cause Zaitsev goes back also.

So Zaitsev and a 1st for a player that can help out now.

 

[Golden_Jet]

It still boggles my mind the leafs were able to trade Zaitsev with zero retained. 3 years later and it’s gonna cost a 1st to move him

Because they had to include Conner Brown.

 

[HarrisonFord]

Because they had to include Conner Brown.

Definitely fair. Brown was probably worth a 2nd on his own at that point - maybe a 1st

 

[rt]

Show us one.

Are you serious?

 

[Big Muddy]

They can move Zaitsev after his bonus is paid in the summer. The new owners should be identified pretty soon. They can deal with it then and the price to move him will be lower and more palatable.

 

[Mr Positive]

I have no idea what you’re talking about.

100% of NHL players with NTCs would choose to play for the Arizona Coyotes over the Belleville Senators. There are no exceptions to this.

I'm talking about the proposed practice of a team paying another team to take a player off waivers

 

[Kobe Armstrong]

Mike Hoffman straight up... Same term and AAV remaining

Everyone loved him in Ottawa

 

[hbk]

Mike Hoffman straight up... Same term and AAV remaining

Everyone loved him in Ottawa

I think there were some issues with Hoffman (and more importantly his wife) behind the scenes.

UPDATED: Team officials and Hoffman knew about harassment allegations for weeks, agent says

“Monika Caryk has posted over 1,000 negative and derogatory statements about me as a professional.”

ottawacitizen.com

 

[Sun God Nika]

I think this is going to be a situation similar to what the sens were trying to do with Murray. Package the sens pick probably 10th overall hitched with Zaitsev for like 20th overall in this draft

 

[Akrapovince]

Are you serious?

Even if you are not able to give an example of precedence of this, the lack of evidence does not prove the lack of these decisions being made.

In theory, it doesn’t have to have happen before for it to happen to Zaitsev. Although as you have already said, there is a lack of proof because no NHL player would rather play on the best AHL team as opposed to the worst NHL team (slight hyperbole, but barely).

The NHLPA has nothing to do with this.

In a separate action, the Ottawa Senators send Zaitsev to Belleville for two weeks. They are allowed to do this.

They tell Zaitsev they do not think he is suitable for their pro club, would he waive his right to veto a trade?

He will say yes, and again, it happens and we have no proof of it.

It is not crossing any lines to send a player down. It is not crossing any lines to ask a player to revoke his right to his ntc.

We see both happen all the time, it’s asinine to believe that it has not happened together in the history of the NHL.

You see the issue with the NTC with star players that have value, we would not be able to do this with Stützle or Tkachuk. Zaitsev? The threat of being buried in the AHL is real.

It’s called leverage, the NHLPA and NHL bend it to their will all the time. Zaitsev has no leverage.