Confirmed with Link: Senators are for sale - and it’s a Gong Show

[GCK]

So many twists and turns.

Progress is encouraging but it is so damn frustrating that Melnyk torpedo'd the last deal by being a greedy asshole.

His late life antics really set the franchise back. Thank god he's gone.

Say what you want about Melnyk but he was getting screwed by Ruddy.

 

[Ice-Tray]

Say what you want about Melnyk but he was getting screwed by Ruddy.

Yeah, I don’t think any of these current ownership groups would want to have anything to do with that guy.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Whoa?!

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

This is taking forever!

A (close to) Billion dollar deal is not like ordering something on Uber Eats….. it will happen, when it does….. and then some people will move onto how long it takes to fire DJS and or PD

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

So many twists and turns.

Progress is encouraging but it is so damn frustrating that Melnyk torpedo'd the last deal by being a greedy asshole.

His late life antics really set the franchise back. Thank god he's gone.

the former Mayor, and Ruddy have the lions share of the blame for the previous NCC deal blowing up, the way it did.

remember, Melnyk was the only potential buyer of the Sens, back in the day, that was committed to keeping the Senators in Ottawa…. Anyone else wanted to move the franchise south of the border…. This is well known… so you should also thank god he bought the franchise

 

[Ice-Tray]

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Do I even Dare?

 

[jbeck5]

A (close to) Billion dollar deal is not like ordering something on Uber Eats….. it will happen, when it does….. and then some people will move onto how long it takes to fire DJS and or PD

Lol you haven't met me ordering from Uber eats. I can never make my mind up.

I was speaking more compared to the reported timelines I kept hearing at the end of last year and at the start of this year.

 

[Cosmix]

I don’t think that’s true at all. The groups are likely so wound up in trying to win the bid that they likely won’t be spending too much time on the hockey side right now.

I mean most of the groups came and met directly with Dorion where he had a chance to present the team and the future plans. It didn’t sound like there were intermediary hockey guys, but the actual ownership groups.

Once the bid is won someone will take the reigns on the hockey side (better be Reynolds) and the rest of the group will be full steam ahead on the real estate.

I just don’t see a realistic outcome where there isn’t an evaluation process for both hockey and business ops. I know that isn’t a popular opinion in here, but we’ve not heard of any hockey guys attached to any group as of yet.

Reynolds is not a hockey ops expert; rather he is a promoter.

The only hockey player or hockey ops manager that I have heard is associated with any of the potential ownership groups is Nick Kypreos.

Have you heard of any others?

 

[Ouroboros]

Imagine people getting all hyped about a sale only to see the new owners make Nick Kypreos POHO.

 

[Ice-Tray]

Reynolds is not a hockey ops expert; rather he is a promoter.

The only hockey player or hockey ops manager that I have heard is associated with any of the potential ownership groups is Nick Kypreos.

Have you heard of any others?

I do remember someone mentioning Sundin in here as Mick mentioned.

I agree Reynolds seems like the type to evaluate and if something needs fixing he goes and gets the best people to do it.

Its hard to imagine what brilliant hockey minds are out there in the reeds not working with teams right now who a group would rely heavily on. I can see having someone do a bit of a deep dive for them in terms of how the team is doing but are we talking about someone who is new to the job kind of thing?

Anyways, it’s all entertainment so super exciting. After watching and reading a little more about Wrexam it would be insane to not have Reynolds owning the team. Insane.

The NHL can’t afford to miss this gift wrapped exposure.

 

[DueDiligence]

Lol you haven't met me ordering from Uber eats. I can never make my mind up.

I was speaking more compared to the reported timelines I kept hearing at the end of last year and at the start of this year.

I think the NHL is surprised by 1) the number of bids and 2) the size of the offers. More strong bids results in a longer time to evaluate them.

 

[DueDiligence]

Anyways, it’s all entertainment so super exciting. After watching and reading a little more about Wrexam it would be insane to not have Reynolds owning the team. Insane.

The NHL can’t afford to miss this gift wrapped exposure.

Reynolds is also going to be starring in the number one movie in 2024. His profile in the next 18 months will be huge worldwide. The NHL certainly want to take advantage of that.

 

[Sun God Nika]

Imagine people getting all hyped about a sale only to see the new owners make Nick Kypreos POHO.

that would be a kick in the balls for sure, but nothing will be worse than Melnyk owning the team.

 

[Tuna99]

Reynolds is not a hockey ops expert; rather he is a promoter.

The only hockey player or hockey ops manager that I have heard is associated with any of the potential ownership groups is Nick Kypreos.

Have you heard of any others?

To be fair, let’s call Ryan Reynolds’s a storyteller. And remember Steve Jobs said “the storyteller is the most powerful person in the world”

Dorion and Melnyck had no story for Ottawa besides grievance and victimhood - it’s why their tenure has been so horrible. Even when Dorion says he’s followed the rebuild to the letter and tries to tell his vision story - the next day Mendes tells him he’s 2 years off a prediction he made 2 years ago.

 

[Tnuoc Alucard]

Lol you haven't met me ordering from Uber eats. I can never make my mind up.

I was speaking more compared to the reported timelines I kept hearing at the end of last year and at the start of this year.

well in that case , consider the source …. Which in the local papers, is Bruce Garrioch… the king of cops and paste. He doesn’t have anymore insight as to the timeline, than you or I do, but he pretends to, in-order to justify his existence.
40% of any of his columns covering this topic is a re hash of who the ownership groups are (copy & paste)… it’s like he gets paid by the word FFS.

personally I don’t care when it happens, or who ends up being the new owner…. As I have no say in it, and have better things to focus my time and energy on…. When it happens, it happens.

 

[Qward]

Imagine people getting all hyped about a sale only to see the new owners make Nick Kypreos POHO.

I am a very patient and loyal sports fan. Hell, I cheer for the Browns. But if Kypreos had ANYTHING to do with this team, I would probably pack it in.

 

[UglyPuckling]

I think the NHL is surprised by 1) the number of bids and 2) the size of the offers. More strong bids results in a longer time to evaluate them.

I would also add that bidders were interested in more land from the NCC to develop if Lebreton was going to be the site of the arena for the Senators.

This will take time for all this to work out.

This is a large endeavour. The idea that this would happen quickly or according to the original schedule was not realistic.

 

[DaveMatthew]

Reynolds is not a hockey ops expert; rather he is a promoter.

The only hockey player or hockey ops manager that I have heard is associated with any of the potential ownership groups is Nick Kypreos.

Have you heard of any others?

Mathias Nordstrom is the hockey advisor for the Neko Sparks group. Mats Sundin is the hockey advisor for the Kimel group.

All of these bidders have people who they've tasked with evaluating the hockey ops of this team. It's not something they'll wait to do until after they take over.

 

[Micklebot]

Mathias Nordstrom is the hockey advisor for the Neko Sparks group. Mats Sundin is the hockey advisor for the Kimel group.

All of these bidders have people who they've tasked with evaluating the hockey ops of this team. It's not something they'll wait to do until after they take over.

I wonder if any potential POHO options have been approached to be hockey ops advisors.

I imagine a group might circle back to some of the guys that were interviewed back when we were looking to add one, Mike Gilles comes to mind as someone not currently affiliated with an NHL club who could be in the mix. Then again, guys with legit shots at becoming a POHO may not want to tie themselves to a single bid,

 

[coladin]

I think the hold up here is most likely all bids want more land at LeBreton as part of the development deal. Their business models are preobably reliant on that

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Mathias Nordstrom is the hockey advisor for the Neko Sparks group. Mats Sundin is the hockey advisor for the Kimel group.

All of these bidders have people who they've tasked with evaluating the hockey ops of this team. It's not something they'll wait to do until after they take over.

Its also been pointed out in the media that the "positive" meetings between Dorion and prospective owners is to be expected since he still has some authority before new owners come in. Prospective owners would not want to leave Dorion with the impression that he is definitely gone.

 

[Ice-Tray]

To be fair, let’s call Ryan Reynolds’s a storyteller. And remember Steve Jobs said “the storyteller is the most powerful person in the world”

Dorion and Melnyck had no story for Ottawa besides grievance and victimhood - it’s why their tenure has been so horrible. Even when Dorion says he’s followed the rebuild to the letter and tries to tell his vision story - the next day Mendes tells him he’s 2 years off a prediction he made 2 years ago.

Honestly man, you need to separate Dorion from Melnyk. Want the guy fired all you want, but trying to act as though they were in cahoots, instead of PD being the primary victim and shield is a bit ridiculous.

We love to talk about how Murray shielded the org from EM, and Murray was by many accounts a great person, but who do you think that ‘outside the job description’ job fell to. Dorion doesn‘t seem to be the same forceful or experienced personality that BMurr was, but he still had to fill those shoes up until EM passed away.

He looks a lot different now, not just at his job, but in he media as well. By all accounts the culture around the team has changed as well. I’m not arguing for sympathy, the haters are way past that, I’m simply arguing that Dorion was definitly not EM’s ‘partner in crime’ so to speak.

 

[Tuna99]

Honestly man, you need to separate Dorion from Melnyk. Want the guy fired all you want, but trying to act as though they were in cahoots, instead of PD being the primary victim and shield is a bit ridiculous.

We love to talk about how Murray shielded the org from EM, and Murray was by many accounts a great person, but who do you think that ‘outside the job description’ job fell to. Dorion doesn‘t seem to be the same forceful or experienced personality that BMurr was, but he still had to fill those shoes up until EM passed away.

He looks a lot different now, not just at his job, but in he media as well. By all accounts the culture around the team has changed as well. I’m not arguing for sympathy, the haters are way past that, I’m simply arguing that Dorion was definitly not EM’s ‘partner in crime’ so to speak.

Wow, never heard of an NHL GM being refered to as a victim before now. I wonder how Dorion would feel about you describing him as the “primary victim” in Ottawa.

Dorion as victim “A lot of you didn't know the great man that he was. I'm so thankful to him on a personal note. He allowed me to be one of the 32 GMs in the League. It's an elite position, and I'm so thankful for him for giving me that opportunity, We (him and Melnyck) started something together, and we're going to finish it, and he'll be so proud of us, and he'll be looking down on."

 

[Ice-Tray]

Wow, never heard of an NHL GM being refered to as a victim before now. I wonder how Dorion would feel about you describing him as the “primary victim” in Ottawa.

Dorion as victim “A lot of you didn't know the great man that he was. I'm so thankful to him on a personal note. He allowed me to be one of the 32 GMs in the League. It's an elite position, and I'm so thankful for him for giving me that opportunity, We (him and Melnyck) started something together, and we're going to finish it, and he'll be so proud of us, and he'll be looking down on."

Yup, he has said a ton of nice things about him in the media, it was a nice eulogy of sorts. I think we’d expect that from most folks in his position, especially given that his children still owned the team.

My point is that Dorion would have been the first point of contact for much of EM being EM. I’m arguing less for your sympathies, and more lobbying for your common sense. First victim of his behaviour wasn’t mean as an amount, but point of contact.

It’s funny, PD just mentioned how this off season and season were the best times he’s had as a GM of the team. At first blush we look at all the moves and the rise of the young team and we can understand. After a quiet moment of reflection we consider what is missing.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Wow, never heard of an NHL GM being refered to as a victim before now. I wonder how Dorion would feel about you describing him as the “primary victim” in Ottawa.

Well not since you said this, earlier today.

Dorion and Melnyck had no story for Ottawa besides grievance and victimhood.