Confirmed with Link: Senators are for sale - and it’s a Gong Show

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Joeyjoejoe

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I’m a fan of any news outlet that does its own investigative reporting, and reports on what they’ve uncovered…. The New York Post gets a lot of flak, from their competitors….. because they don’t go along to get along… and report what they find, and let the reader decide whether they’re right or wrong on whatever issue they print.

there is a long list of major issues that the Post got right, and their competitors got wrong.

so, guess you’re a fan of news outlets that get thing wrong.… like your grammar.

Nah I am just a fan of not believing the post as a reputable news source but you do you Melnyk warrior. The grammar police association will soon recognize your effort and the service that you put in though.
 
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Tuna99

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Maybe, but now it’s memorial day weekend , so next week maybe.
Damn my end of the month prediction in jeopardy.

Nothing is ever easy as a Sens fan. Parking, washing your hands, driving to a hockey game, ownership, winning, signing players.

Just seems all the luster of the once prominent sale and Sens fans dreaming of their brand being take international are dead - now it’s like waiting for the White Smoke to announce a new pope.

Hopefully it’s worth it. But nothing as a Sens fan is ever easy. Ever
 
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Nothing is ever easy as a Sens fan. Parking, washing your hands, driving to a hockey game, ownership, winning, signing players.

Just seems all the luster of the once prominent sale and Sens fans dreaming of their brand being take international are dead - now it’s like waiting for the White Smoke to announce a new pope.

Hopefully it’s worth it. But nothing as a Sens fan is ever easy. Ever


Weeknd can still take the brand international !

But at the end of the day the only thing that matters is if the owners have the money to spend toe to toe with our two neighbouring franchises. That includes building the arena and bringing in competent staff to win a Stanley cup
 
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Nah I am just a fan of not believing the post as a reputable news source but you do you Melnyk warrior. The grammar police association will soon recognize your effort and the service that you put in though.

It’s not a matter of being a Fan, you just want to believe the news outlets that confirms the position you’ve already made on a given issue…. And therefore any other outlet that does not confirm your bias, must be wrong…. Heaven forbid there be another side to a story.

Even the glaring examples posted earlier when the NYP was 100% correct, on both those stories…. you probably believed the competition that said the Post was wrong…. And probably still believe those same news outlets that lied to you then and before.

the difference between myself and those who just take for granted the news outlets that confirm their bias, is that I seek out the other side of the story… maybe some people have an open mind and others don’t because it’s comfortable in the echo chamber, why bother getting out on the debate stage, why risk having to defend your position, or risk learning more information on any given subject?
 

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As someone with professional training and a degree in journalism would say.

I don’t believe in selective journalism, whomever was correct should be taken seriously regardless if you share their editorial bias or not.
 
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It's pretty simple.

The league just generated $6.1B in HRR last season. Divided by 32 teams that's 190M per team. If half goes to the players, that's $95M per team in potential profits (yes the team has more expenses than just players but they also have revenues that aren't included in HRR). That number is a rate of return of almost 10% on $1B and doesn't even include the franchise appreciation that has been going on since the birth of the league.

Even if you half the number, it's still a decent RoR on the investment.

Assen na yo!

We all know revenues aren't split evenly among all 32 teams. There is a huge gap between hat a team like Toronto makes and what Ottawa does.
 

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Yeah if you want investigative reporting you want to look at the other New York paper.

An example: youtube.com/watch?v=gOmYi96cU1M

As for this whole sale process it seems like everyone including the journalists are mostly speculating or getting sources of questionable trust. I just want this to be over. The only group I don't want is the Sparks group mainly because Neko Sparks seems to be into crypto and their funding is a bunch of question marks.

Lol the NYT is literally the state's mouthpiece and will largely regurgitate whatever narrative it wants the paper to give its readers. Not saying the Post is better, but it might be time to stop thinking mainstream media has some sort of obligation to tell the truth.
 

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Just read through the first number of pages in this topic. Joy, hope, declarations of love for Blake Lively. Ahh, crazy November.
 

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This ain’t even a update
Meh. Maybe not, but I agree with one of the points he made wholeheartedly.

The Sparks bid has very likely given GSP/Melnyks/Bettman something very hard to think about. I'm guessing that the finances do in fact check out (the UK money is very real), and now they have a dilemma of sorts because that number is notably higher than everyone else's.

I'm fairly positive that this is reason #1 this has gone on as long as it has. And every other reason following it (like groups potentially merging together) are result of reason #1 happening.

This is the only thing that makes sense tbh.
 

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It’s not a matter of being a Fan, you just want to believe the news outlets that confirms the position you’ve already made on a given issue…. And therefore any other outlet that does not confirm your bias, must be wrong…. Heaven forbid there be another side to a story.

Even the glaring examples posted earlier when the NYP was 100% correct, on both those stories…. you probably believed the competition that said the Post was wrong…. And probably still believe those same news outlets that lied to you then and before.

the difference between myself and those who just take for granted the news outlets that confirm their bias, is that I seek out the other side of the story… maybe some people have an open mind and others don’t because it’s comfortable in the echo chamber, why bother getting out on the debate stage, why risk having to defend your position, or risk learning more information on any given subject?

this post is all about the right to seek out intellectual integrity and At the same time I know you’re know not doing that you’re just pretending you’re doing ‘research’ so you can believe any myth you want
 
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this post is all about the right to seek out intellectual integrity and At the same time I know you’re know not doing that you’re just pretending you’re doing ‘research’ so you can believe any myth you want

“At the same time I know you are know not doing that you are just pretending you are doing ‘research’”

dude, you lost me there….




I don’t pretend to do research, when it comes to “news reports” if that is what you’re referencing.

I watch/read/listen to a variety of news outlets… from various POVs, to try and get as close to the whole story as possible. And then, I make up my own mind as to which version of a particular issue makes the most sense to me.

a poster gave an example about a laptop that was in possession of the FBI in December of 2019, and the New York Post reported on the contents of that laptop in the fall of 2020. The Post report held a lot of water, because it was factual, and verified….in other words correct. When i heard what their competitors said about the same laptop, they had zero verifiable proof to back their side of the story….. it was an easy decision to make, as to which report was logical.

That’s not research…. That’s reading and using common sense, and not a myth, as the NYP was correct and two years later all the other news organizations admitted publicly they were wrong….. and they all knew it at the time of the NYPs reporting on the story.
 
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“At the same time I know you are know not doing that you are just pretending you are doing ‘research’”

dude, you lost me there….




I don’t pretend to do research, when it comes to “news reports” if that is what you’re referencing.

I watch/read/listen to a variety of news outlets… from various POVs, to try and get as close to the whole story as possible. And then, I make up my own mind as to which version of a particular issue makes the most sense to me.

a poster gave an example about a laptop that was in possession of the FBI in December of 2019, and the New York Post reported on the contents of that laptop in the fall of 2020. The Post report held a lot of water, because it was factual, and verified….in other words correct. When i heard what their competitors said about the same laptop, they had zero verifiable proof to back their side of the story….. it was an easy decision to make, as to which report was logical.

That’s not research…. That’s reading and using common sense, and not a myth, as the NYP was correct and two years later all the other news organizations admitted publicly they were wrong….. and they all knew it at the time of the NYPs reporting on the story.
Every once in a while a blind squirrel finds a nut.
 

HoweHullOrr

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Just spitballing, maybe there's the opportunity for an Andlauer and Apostolopoulos partnership, with Andlauer being the hockey-side guy and Apostolopoulos being the real estate-side guy.
Apostolopoulos could also partner with local investors (and the Melnyks) to give some local content. Doesn't seem like he needs the money but some local investor content might help politically.
 

Hockeysawks

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I am suprised this has not exploded into a giant mess and failed deals yet.
1 billion? I gots problems thinking thats a reasonable price without some fantastic land deals and tax breaks
 
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IpsoPostFacto

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Meh. Maybe not, but I agree with one of the points he made wholeheartedly.

The Sparks bid has very likely given GSP/Melnyks/Bettman something very hard to think about. I'm guessing that the finances do in fact check out (the UK money is very real), and now they have a dilemma of sorts because that number is notably higher than everyone else's.

I'm fairly positive that this is reason #1 this has gone on as long as it has. And every other reason following it (like groups potentially merging together) are result of reason #1 happening.

This is the only thing that makes sense tbh.
I haven't read anything that suggests that Sparks' number is "notably higher than everyone else's". Perhaps I missed it, but I thought the guess was the big bidder was Steve A. What we have read is that Sparks is stretched and still looking for investors. That doesn't sound like the high bid at this point.

The something to think about from Ian's article was the 'close' bid along with the diversity play from Sparks' group.

The one or truth from Ian's article was the comment from the NHL "official" that "there are no rules. The only rule is to get the highest price"

It's possible that when this is all done we find that the Sellers and Sparks are in a symbiotic relationship. Seller can point at # of bidders and keep the price needle moving up, and Sparks gets more exposure here than he has every had in his fabulous career and can springboard from that into his other business ventures or taking a run at another franchise or expansion team.
 
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