Confirmed with Link: Senators are for sale - and it’s a Gong Show

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DaveMatthew

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Disappointing. Partly because of Reynolds, but mostly because this was the group that was, at least publicly, most committed to a downtown rink.

So if they’re pulling out, is the prospect of a downtown rink farfetched? Let’s hope not.

I guess it comes down to Kimel vs Andlauer now. Hopefully they both have a plan to move out of Kanata. Because if there’s a new owner and we hear the phrase “the CTC can be brought up to modern standards…”, it’ll be a huge missed opportunity for this city.

*I stand by my opinion that the “Neko Sparks groups” is not real.
 
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But league sources doesn't necessarily mean sources who were part of the actual conversation. It could be someone in the league office who wasn't directly involved but whose "sense" of what went down is what's being described.
I don't want to kill this, but I will anyway. What you just said agrees with my statement that it is too early to know what the real story is. A third party's take, per your example, is useless in terms of the story. Now we have Bruce's take on what some rando's take on what he might have heard from someone who was part of the real conversations.

no mater who told Bruce anything I still say that if the request by Remington is what is reported, then the person to whom they spoke at the NHL/GPS/Melnyk family would absolutely know if the 30 day window included a guarantee to buy or not.

If it did not include a guarantee, then I wouldn't accept it either.

Interestingly, the suggestion - based on the reporting - is that if given a guarantee, then the offer would then have been accepted. At that point, the 30 day window doesn't make sense.

the story is goofy.

edit: part of the problem of course, is the need to 'first to print' these days. Just throw it out there and correct later.
 

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Depends. My crowd of mostly athletes who like to play sports and drink beer, snoop is still more relevant than Ryan Reynolds. Not everyone is a teenager looking for the next superhero movie. As a young adult who statistically has the most disposable income to spend on tickets and merchandise, I hear a snoop song way more often than I watch a Reynolds movie.
I feel like Reynolds as an actor appeals to a much wider group of demographics while musicians likely get more die hard appeal from narrower demographics.

Most people can find a Ryan Reynolds movie they enjoy, but people tend to be more tribal with their music tastes, with some exceptions. Not a lot of people will like both Snoop and Garth Brooks for example, or Pantera fans that also listen to Katie Perry.
 

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Dreger on Overdrive says the if Remington is out, so is Reynolds. There’ll be no switching groups.

Also says that any group that ponies up $1B will need answers from the NCC or city about the land. Before they close. Nobody is committing to that amount without knowing what the arena situation will be. Hints that this isn’t the only group that wants to negotiate with the NCC first. If you’re spending that much, you don’t want to get caught up in a multi year battle with government.

This franchise isn’t worth anything close to $1B to an owner who’s keeping it in Kanata. It’ll be interesting to see what happens.
 

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I feel like Reynolds as an actor appeals to a much wider group of demographics while musicians likely get more die hard appeal from narrower demographics.

Most people can find a Ryan Reynolds movie they enjoy, but people tend to be more tribal with their music tastes, with some exceptions. Not a lot of people will like both Snoop and Garth Brooks for example, or Pantera fans that also listen to Katie Perry.
Aside from Deadpool I don’t think many people care about his acting.

The Weeknd seems to be the most popular guy out of all the celebs listed. Kimel and Desmairs are serious players as well.
 

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Aside from Deadpool I don’t think many people care about his acting.

The Weeknd seems to be the most popular guy out of all the celebs listed. Kimel and Desmairs are serious players as well.

I don’t know if the Weeknd is popular with anyone over the age of 28.

Snoop Dogg is the most well known, without a doubt. He’s the “most famous”.

Reynolds is the most appealing to a broad set of people. He’s a good looking actor who’s in vanilla movies and has a famous wife. Like Clooney.
 
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Dreger on Overdrive says the if Remington is out, so is Reynolds. There’ll be no switching groups.

Also says that any group that ponies up $1B will need answers from the NCC or city about the land. Before they close. Nobody is committing to that amount without knowing what the arena situation will be. Hints that this isn’t the only group that wants to negotiate with the NCC first. If you’re spending that much, you don’t want to get caught up in a multi year battle with government.

This franchise isn’t worth anything close to $1B to an owner who’s keeping it in Kanata. It’ll be interesting to see what happens.
Precisely this. Surprising that it is happening at the 11th hour but if a portion of the value is pegged to LeBreton you would be remiss to not have about $200M worth of assurance from the NCC that their terms will be favourable or, at the very least, workable.

I'd be surprised if a few more dominos don't fall this weekend.

The NCC predictably botches another one it seems.
 

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I don’t know if the Weeknd is popular with anyone over the age of 28.

Snoop Dogg is the most well known, without a doubt. He’s the “most famous”.

Reynolds is the most appealing to a broad set of people. He’s a good looking actor who’s in vanilla movies and has a famous wife. Like Clooney.
You’d be surprised.

Aside from the marvel/superhero popularity I think he’s not. He’s definitely isn’t Leonardo Decap popularity wise
 

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With the excitement of Reynolds being gone, I wouldn't be surprised if the richer people in the other consortiums tell the likes of Snoop Dogg and The Weekend to go pound salt; they never really needed them anyways.

What an absolute mess now. I think it’s going to be a while until we see this team sold with the NCC at play.
Yep.. that or the price drops drastically overnight.
 

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With the excitement of Reynolds being gone, I wouldn't be surprised if the richer people in the other consortiums tell the likes of Snoop Dogg and The Weekend to go pound salt; they never really needed them anyways.


Yep.. that or the price drops drastically overnight.

Neko Sparks definitely needs Snoop Dogg, and the Kimel's have an existing business relationship with The Weeknd.
 

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You’d be surprised.

Aside from the marvel/superhero popularity I think he’s not. He’s definitely isn’t Leonardo Decap popularity wise

According to my 32 year old wife who pays attention to celebrities, he’s in the same “weight class” as those guys. She reminded me that he’s currently married to Blake Lively and was previously married to Scarlett Johansen, which is a big boost to his stock.

*same weight class for famousness, not acting chops.
 
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At least GSP might end up getting shafted here. They won’t give an extension for Remington/Reynolds to negotiate with the NCC but allow that Sacramento Kings owner to come in after the initial deadline with a huge offer (which pissed off the bidders)?

Hope they lose out on a lot of money.
 

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Ryan Reynolds is one of the most marketable actors in Hollywood. He is a bona fide movie star, and the only reason Free Guy made over $330 million USD
 

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What an absolute mess now. I think it’s going to be a while until we see this team sold with the NCC at play.
how is the NCC the issue here. They awarded the original big project and the melnyk and what's his face screwed that up. Then recently, with the parcels left the Sens signed the development agreement. Then the Sens are put up for sales and a new bidder wants to negotiate with the NCC and city and the broker and Sens board says no.

At least that's what I got from all of this.
 

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how is the NCC the issue here. They awarded the original big project and the melnyk and what's his face screwed that up. Then recently, with the parcels left the Sens signed the development agreement. Then the Sens are put up for sales and a new bidder wants to negotiate with the NCC and city and the broker and Sens board says no.

At least that's what I got from all of this.
Because there will likely be bidders backing out now. Nobody is going to pay a billion for the team without knowing they have an arena deal in place.

We’ll see.
 

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According to my 32 year old wife who pays attention to celebrities, he’s in the same “weight class” as those guys. She reminded me that he’s currently married to Blake Lively and was previously married to Scarlett Johansen, which is a big boost to his stock.

*same weight class for famousness, not acting chops.
Did your wife’s crush on him make you like him even more?
 
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Because there will likely be bidders backing out now. Nobody is going to pay a billion for the team without knowing they have an arena deal in place.

We’ll see.
I understand that. I just took your "...with the NCC at play" as saying it was the NCCs fault, when it was the selling parties who denied the window to get that deal done between Remington and NCC. Would you put down +1b without having had a chance to cut the land deal?
 

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I understand that. I just took your "...with the NCC at play" as saying it was the NCCs fault, when it was the selling parties who denied the window to get that deal done between Remington and NCC. Would you put down +1b without having had a chance to cut the land deal?
No, and that’s precisey why this has become such a mess. GSP could have worked with the NCC and the bidders.
 
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