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Clearly the defensive kinks aren't quite worked out on either side, but it was entertaining at least lol. Some great goaltending.

Feel for Mrazek. Gets a kicked shot called goal against him, gets a double deflection goal scored on him, gets scored on with 0.6 seconds left in the period, and he's out there making some great saves but then gets injured before the game is even over. Hope it's not too serious.

Hopefully a better game on Saturday.
 
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TMLife17 said:
How about the blatant trip in the offensive zone corner with about 4 left?
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I'm not a referee nor is my wife but her Dad used to be way back in the day, and she said he definitely wouldn't ever let shit like that go, ever! I'm going to take her word for it.

It's not often we can honestly say that the referees cost the Leafs the win, but they did. Non calls, ghost calls, and that first goal that was "directed in by a deliberate kicking motion." I'm very disappointed all around by that display of incompetence by the stripes. Seeing as they're professionals I can only assume that their performance was mandated by the league in the never ending quest for competitive balance, that renders sportsmanship, hard work and skill useless.
 
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Hopefully Semyonov and Liljegren get in on Saturday. At least 1 should've been put in today because of the back to back but I can understand not making any lineup changes since it's only game 2 in the season so the being tired/worn out excuse would be dumb.
 
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therealkoho said:
I'm not a referee nor is my wife but her Dad used to be way back in the day, and she said he definitely wouldn't ever let shit like that go, ever! I'm going to take her word for it.

It's not often we can honestly say that the referees cost the Leafs the win, but they did. Non calls, ghost calls, and that first goal that was "directed in by a deliberate kicking motion." I'm very disappointed all around by that display of incompetence by the stripes. Seeing as they're professionals I can only assume that their performance was mandated by the league in the never ending quest for competitive balance, that renders sportsmanship and skill useless.
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So much true here. Thank you. Seems like you can’t watch a game now without calls being missed or made up.
 
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ECYCLE said:
Leafs fans really love their scapegoats, huh?

Pierre Engvall is a 1.2 M player. He's replacement level. I feel like some of you guys don't understand that his inconsistencies are to be expected. Unfortunately, these are the kinds of players that Leafs can afford nowadays.
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Valid points for sure in general terms
But …….
Sorry the excuses are over , that comment is bronze aged in his defence .
It’s not about him , it’s about players of his ilk that play like him , no balls , no heart , no cup !
I bet you we could find 3 players on our 4th line that are under 1 mil to play every shift like it’s their last and also hit at every turn , forecheck like nobody’s business and put a wee bit of fear in the opponent
 
djdev said:
you know the funny thing, on the second night of a back to back the oldest player on the roster was our best player. the excuse about fine tuned athletes in their mid 20s being "tired" in b2bs has always been a big copout for me.
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the oldest player always seems to be the one that gives a damn.
I know it’s only two games but this team doesn’t deserve any excuses. If people want to be negative and worry they have the right to. What have the leafs done to make us think either wise?
 
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ECYCLE said:
Leafs fans really love their scapegoats, huh?

Pierre Engvall is a 1.2 M player. He's replacement level. I feel like some of you guys don't understand that his inconsistencies are to be expected. Unfortunately, these are the kinds of players that Leafs can afford nowadays.
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I wonder what we can do to fix that….
 
Pookie said:
this team is making the playoffs.

my point was exactly the point I made in the off-season.

If they came back with the same core, everything they achieve would be met with “yeah but wait for the playoffs”

presidents trophy... yeah but wait for the playoffs.

Wins? Losses? Who cares. Wait for the playoffs.

We had a lot of folks with similar thinking a few months ago. I posted the same last night and was uninvited to the thread.

Oh well. It’s as true tonight as it was last night as it was on locker clean out day.

nothing they do can impress. Nothing they do can be more disappointing.

playoffs is when we should care.
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I think that is fair for sure but I mean, 82 games is a lot of games. Sure, they're played at lower intensity and pressure than playoffs, but it's so great to see the team bond and form an identity annually. You see that in 82 games which gives you hope for the playoff season.

That's why I try to watch each reg season game, if I can.
 
therealkoho said:
I'm not a referee nor is my wife but her Dad used to be way back in the day, and she said he definitely wouldn't ever let shit like that go, ever! I'm going to take her word for it.

It's not often we can honestly say that the referees cost the Leafs the win, but they did. Non calls, ghost calls, and that first goal that was "directed in by a deliberate kicking motion." I'm very disappointed all around by that display of incompetence by the stripes. Seeing as they're professionals I can only assume that their performance was mandated by the league in the never ending quest for competitive balance, that renders sportsmanship, hard work and skill useless.
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Did he ref with Red Storey ?
 
stickty111 said:

Pretty much.
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So frustrating watching Muzzin and Holl. I think they've been on for every goal scored against so far. I could be wrong though. Neither could complete a pass to save their lives. Always a step and a half behind all night. Only thing positive I saw from either was when the puck was caught up in Zub's jersey, Holl cross checked him and knocked the puck loose. Pretty bad.
 
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Clark4Ever said:
Marner is clearly trying too hard to score when it's not his strength.
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He DID have an entire offseason of assholes yelling at him that despite leading the team in assists and points, he's worthless because he doesn't score goals. Is this really a surprise? It happened last year too.

And the second he stops trying to score, the same guys screaming for him to stop will scream that he's not trying to score...
 
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djdev said:
you know the funny thing is, on the second night of a back to back the oldest player on the roster was our best player. the excuse about fine tuned athletes in their mid 20s being "tired" in b2bs has always been a big copout for me.
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To be fair, Spezza only played 24-25 minutes total against weaker competition.

The young stars have to play twice as much over two games against the opposition's best. This does add up.

Spezza's linemates should be embarrassed though.
 
Apex Predator said:
the oldest player always seems to be the one that gives a damn.
I know it’s only two games but this team doesn’t deserve any excuses. If people want to be negative and worry they have the right too. What have the leafs done to make us think either wise?
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lol ive decided to just turn off the game when we arent playing well, after the last playoff collapse ive kindof got a different outlook with these guys. regular season im just watching now for good hockey if i dont see it i will watch something else :)
 
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Teeder Keon said:
Valid points for sure in general terms
But …….
Sorry the excuses are over , that comment is bronze aged in his defence .
It’s not about him , it’s about players of his ilk that play like him , no balls , no heart , no cup !
I bet you we could find 3 players on our 4th line that are under 1 mil to play every shift like it’s their last and also hit at every turn , forecheck like nobody’s business and put a wee bit of fear in the opponent
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Well to be fair there's no need for a cup if there are no balls.....just sayin
 
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Eternal Leaf said:
To be fair, Spezza only played 24-25 minutes total against weaker competition.

The young stars have to play twice as much over two games against the opposition's best. This does add up.

Spezza's linemates should be embarrassed though.
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to me its about compete level, i saw marner standing behind the net with 20 seconds left not even fighting for a puck 5 feet away. not acceptable imo.
 
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