Buffalo Bills Season's End: The Off-Seasons Starts Now
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Jim Bob
RIP RJ
So, I thought about this today.
How bad of an agent does Tua have?
"Hey Tua, we've got a commercial for you. So, your arm is going to be too weak, an 83 year old is going to call you "not built for the moment", then out throw you, by so much we're going to have late 90s rock band come on and sing about how much of a better throw it is"
"That sounds not great"
"It's fine, its self deprecating humor, Josh Allen is doing to it too"
"Oh, what does he do in it?"
"Well, its a different commercial. Jim Nantz and Tony Romo are going to talk about his cannon for an arm and a transformer is going to be jealous and try to show him what a real cannon is like, but won't be able to, and Peppa pig is going to laugh along"
How bad of an agent does Tua have?
"Hey Tua, we've got a commercial for you. So, your arm is going to be too weak, an 83 year old is going to call you "not built for the moment", then out throw you, by so much we're going to have late 90s rock band come on and sing about how much of a better throw it is"
"That sounds not great"
"It's fine, its self deprecating humor, Josh Allen is doing to it too"
"Oh, what does he do in it?"
"Well, its a different commercial. Jim Nantz and Tony Romo are going to talk about his cannon for an arm and a transformer is going to be jealous and try to show him what a real cannon is like, but won't be able to, and Peppa pig is going to laugh along"
SundherDome
Y'all have to much power
truthbluth
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SundherDome
Y'all have to much power
There was a trade proposal on bleacher report in which we got Burns and Car 5th for Diggs, our 5th and 6th.
Selanne00008
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How exactly would those cap numbers work out? Seems more that impossible with Diggs dead cap and Burns high salary.
Edit; I skimmed the article and the other potential trades. I think the other 4 trades make more sense where we would get a high draft pick for Diggs. The Bills could not afford to trade Diggs and pick up a contract like Burns who is coming off of his ELC.
Also - Think about this. All those other trades are showing Diggs being traded for a 1st round pick. We traded a late 1st round pick for him 4 years ago. Now he's 30. Is he even worth that?
Would you trade a 1st rounder for Diggs if you were the other team?
It's all unlikely, but hypothetically, I'd say he is worth a day 2 pick. The salary is high and he's no longer in his 20s.
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SundherDome
Y'all have to much power
Let me dream
I would make Beane figure it out. Diggs would also get a first, it has to make sense for us to move on from Allen's safety blanket.
truthbluth
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The 1st is the cost for us to eat the dead cap. Diggs cap hit for the aquiring team would be so tiny.
Zman5778
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Miller's new two-round NFL mock draft: Landing spots for six QBs and a bunch of Senior Bowl risers
After a week at the Senior Bowl, Matt Miller predicts the first 64 picks -- two full rounds -- of the 2024 NFL draft.
So. This one is interesting to me for a few different reasons. I am intrigued by the idea of adding JPJ in the 1st round. Dude is the best center in the draft and that would allow us to just release Morse and save his cap space (assuming we don't extend him prior to the draft).
BUT.....for as good as JPJ is/can be......Latu would be staring us in the face in this scenario. I mean.....I don't think I could pass up Latu here. Him and Rousseau would be killer DEs for years and years.
Then Polk in round 2. I like Polk. His top speed isn't great, but he can separate on short and intermediate route. Great hands. Do I think he could be a WR1 eventually? Mayyyyybe....though I think he tops out at a very good #2.
BUT -- Javon Bullard (Safety) from Georgia is starting us right in the face. Dude is multiple with good instincts and a nose for the ball. He's a solid tackler as well.
BUT BUT -- Can we really wait on adding WR talent until our comp pick in round 3?
Blargh. I think if things play out this way, I take Latu and Bullard....and pray that a solid WR falls to us in the 3rd....or be aggressive and trade up to get him.
Der Jaeger
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They are not allowed to broadcast Friday night games from the second weekend in September until some time in December however this year Labour Day is early so the first Friday is opening weekend.
I mean, personally, I mortgage everything to go up and get Marvin Harrison Junior. Have 1-2 years of Diggs/Harrison/Shakir/Knox/Kincaid/Cook and eventually move forward Cook/Harrison/Kincaid as your core 3 around Allen.
But, the idea of picking a 1st round center (and possibly cutting Morse for cap savings) and then moving up in the 2nd round to get the best WR available might be more cost effective. But you better be damn sure about the center in the draft if you are letting Morse go.
But, the idea of picking a 1st round center (and possibly cutting Morse for cap savings) and then moving up in the 2nd round to get the best WR available might be more cost effective. But you better be damn sure about the center in the draft if you are letting Morse go.
Der Jaeger
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Zman5778
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To get from where we are to #4.....it'd take a LOT. Like....most of our draft this year plus another 1st round pick or two.
And that doesn't even count the possibility that New England might just take him at 3.
Husko
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It's a rare good year to draft a center high. There's 3 of them that will be worthwhile around where we're picking. A lot of classes that number is 1 or 0.
I know the bloodline thing isn't a sure thing, but when high talent players bust, it's oftentimes off field stuff that is the issue. Not saying that won't be an issue with MH Jr, but, when you have one of the best ever at the position in your corner who had a long NFL career, I'm much less worried about it.
misterchainsaw
Preparing PHASE TWO!
I'd hate to think about what it would take to get to #4.
For reference, the draft pick value chart I found had our entire stock of draft picks worth almost 1200 points. The #4 pick alone is 1800. It would cost us at least this and next year's first and this year's 2nd. Minimum.
Considering Arizona really wouldn't have any motivation to switch with us (as opposed to switching with a team relatively near them who might go QB), it's just not feasible.
For reference, the draft pick value chart I found had our entire stock of draft picks worth almost 1200 points. The #4 pick alone is 1800. It would cost us at least this and next year's first and this year's 2nd. Minimum.
Considering Arizona really wouldn't have any motivation to switch with us (as opposed to switching with a team relatively near them who might go QB), it's just not feasible.
Jim Bob
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Teams have made 14 first-round trades since 2016 in order to select a quarterback. Some of have been big hits. Far more have been misses.
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Jim Bob
RIP RJ
You can't figure it out.
Today, the Bills are $51.8M OVER the 2024 cap.
Diggs has a $27.8M cap hit in 2024.
There is a $31M dead cap in 2024 for trading Diggs before 6/1.
Burns is a UFA. So, I don't know how he is getting traded. Even if it were possible to franchise tag him and then trade him, his cap number would be a hard $23M in 2024.
So, to trade Diggs for Burns, you are going from $51.8M over the cap to $78M OVER the cap. That would also mean that they have to restructure Miller's contract to get under the cap. That future invests in the worst contract the Bills have.
That's not going to happen.
And an almost 31yo WR on that contract is not getting a 1st round pick back.
Der Jaeger
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No it’s not. They bust for many of the same reasons other players don’t make it.
Mortgaging everything for one player is foolish.
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Especially given where we are with the cap. We need to hit on multiple draft picks to keep the talent flowing. Sacrificing it all for one player given where we are with the cap would be a big mistake.
Beane has done pretty well with the draft. Kincaid looks like that future star we've been hoping he'd hit on in the draft. Let's see what talent falls to us. Too many holes to fill and not enough cap space to spend all the assets it would take to move up that far. I wouldn't want to pay that even if we had the cap space.
It'd be a mistake. And if Harrison went the way of Watkins, I'll even say it'd be catastrophic. Not unlike the Miller trade is proving to be.
My personal take is this: the NFL is so random that sometimes your best bet is more reps. More attempts on 4th downs. More trips to the playoffs. More mid to late round picks. Etc.
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