Buffalo Bills Season's End: The Off-Seasons Starts Now

[Husko]

That was brutal. How many more times does McDermott have to show everyone that he is a overly conservative loser? The soft coverage on the 3rd and 4 too…. He will never win a championship with his decision making under pressure. He has shown it time and time again.

What's really bad about it is that in neutral game situations he's overwhelmingly aggressive. He knows that the analytics favor aggressive play. But when it comes to make or break moments, he falls back on his most conservative tendencies. He just can't help himself.

 

[SundherDome]

I’ve never been on the fire McDermott train. But the kneel down at the end of the fourth might get be there. Most inexcusable decision of his career. Cowardly. Playing to not lose instead of to win. Not trusting your players. Just disgusting.

Literally the right call. Would you give McDermott slack if Josh drops back and throws an absolute dime, it goes through Gabe's hands into an Eagle at the 50 who returns it 10 yards and Elliott kicks the field goal to win?

He made the right call to kneel, we got the ball, moved it well and a had a miscommunication on the last play which sucks.

 

[BowieSabresFan]

That last play on offense wasn't really a miscommunication between Davis and Allen. Davis, knowing Allen is under pressure, needs to turn his head around.

 

[SundherDome]

Explain the career of Gabe Davis

He is a great blocker, so you live with it. I doubt he will be here next year because of the ups and downs.

 

[Ace]

This is your 2023 bills folks.

This is your Sean McDermott Bills in an important game. Year doesn’t matter.

 

[misterchainsaw]

That last play on offense wasn't really a miscommunication between Davis and Allen. Davis, knowing Allen is under pressure, needs to turn his head around.

I dunno if he just throws the corner route (which is apparently what was called) it's a touchdown. Davis almost won too cleanly.

 

[Husko]

Literally the right call. Would you give McDermott slack if Josh drops back and throws an absolute dime, it goes through Gabe's hands into an Eagle at the 50 who returns it 10 yards and Elliott kicks the field goal to win?

He made the right call to kneel, we got the ball, moved it well and a had a miscommunication on the last play which sucks.

It wasn't the right call unless you have zero faith in Allen. If you think that's the right call, we just have completely different theories on either our eval of our franchise QB or whether playing to win is a good idea.

And it's not like we did something super sophisticated to get the ball. 50/50 chance we never even see the ball there and the offense doesn't touch the field.

 

[SabresFan26]

He could if his #2 WR knew what the f*** he was doing

Just speaking generally in history. He played well overall outside the pick

 

[misterchainsaw]

It wasn't the right call unless you have zero faith in Allen. If you think that's the right call, we just have completely different theories on either our eval of our franchise QB or whether playing to win is a good idea.

And it's not like we did something super sophisticated to get the ball. 50/50 chance we never even see the ball there and the offense doesn't touch the field.

I mean that's clearly not true. It's not a 100% chance Philly scores a TD if they get the ball first, regardless of what played out.

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

Silver lining of a loss is it hopefully gets us closer to being rid of Mr. McCoward.

 

[tsujimoto74]

What's really bad about it is that in neutral game situations he's overwhelmingly aggressive. He knows that the analytics favor aggressive play. But when it comes to make or break moments, he falls back on his most conservative tendencies. He just can't help himself.

This is what kills me. He makes the right calls most of the time when it isn't that important, and then fumbles the bag with the game on the line.

 

[Husko]

I mean that's clearly not true. It's not a 100% chance Philly scores a TD if they get the ball first, regardless of what played out.

50% chance we don't get the ball (and then relinquish the TD, and the offense doesn't see the field)

 

[kirby11]

It wasn't the right call unless you have zero faith in Allen. If you think that's the right call, we just have completely different theories on either our eval of our franchise QB or whether playing to win is a good idea.

And it's not like we did something super sophisticated to get the ball. 50/50 chance we never even see the ball there and the offense doesn't touch the field.

And they won the Detroit game last year under similar circumstances, albeit in a dome. But I would’ve rather lost going down swinging in an attempt to win in regulation than how we did

 

[SabresFan26]

It is literally a pattern of Sean McDermott games and the defense played outstanding in the first half.

They are the anti-clutch and he gets outcoached regularly.

Look at what Payton has done in Denver and how much they are getting better throughout the year.

Soft defense. This is a good team too that has the talent to win and compete for a championship but won’t make the playoffs.

 

[SundherDome]

It wasn't the right call unless you have zero faith in Allen. If you think that's the right call, we just have completely different theories on either our eval of our franchise QB or whether playing to win is a good idea.

And it's not like we did something super sophisticated to get the ball. 50/50 chance we never even see the ball there and the offense doesn't touch the field.

I have all the faith in Allen. That said, I don't trust the receivers to make a catch, all the receivers dropped balls today. The defense played very well and I would trust them in OT.

 

[Husko]

They won't do it, but I wouldn't be opposed to shutting Allen down with a mysterious injury and actually getting a top pick to get something out of this misery season.

 

[kirby11]

This is what kills me. He makes the right calls most of the time when it isn't that important, and then fumbles the bag with the game on the line.

He coaches not to lose in every big spot and it’s on the players to bail him out

 

[Ace]

Sean McDermott is the worst important game coach in history. All the terrible coaches you can think of were too terrible to coach important games. He’s had years of them. He fails. Every. Time.

Good news though, Big Game Sean…firing the OC turned them around immediately. Time to turn around the D and the game management decisions. Now…how would we do that?

 

[misterchainsaw]

Ok I'm leaving for a bit. Holy overreaction. THis remains their hardest game remaining, and remains the game they could most afford to lose tiebreaker wise.

It sucks, but this season is not over. They're IN if they win out and they're probably in at 10-7, especially if the 2nd loss is to Dallas.

It's just infuriating that they made the play to win the game - a play that I've seen called a fumble over and over again in this league, and they don't even look at it.

 

[SabresFan26]

They won't do it, but I wouldn't be opposed to shutting Allen down with a mysterious injury and actually getting a top pick to get something out of this misery season.

Na. Just draft and develop well and do your job.

Mayfield, Darnold, Rosen all taken ahead of Allen.

 

[tsujimoto74]

50% chance we don't get the ball (and then relinquish the TD, and the offense doesn't see the field)

McDermott, as the guy coaching the defense, probably is betting on himself and his guys to get the stop there, but obviously that wasn't going so great for them in the 2nd half.

 

[Husko]

I have all the faith in Allen. That said, I don't trust the receivers to make a catch, all the receivers dropped balls today. The defense played very well and I would trust them in OT.

The defense you trusted gave up touchdowns on 3/5 drives going into halftime, a field goal on one, and just one punt. I agree they played admirably early, but trusting the defense in overtime is exactly why we lost. It was clear they were cooked.

 

[Ace]

The only positive is that, with Leslie and Dorsey already out…there is no one else to point at but the coward who does this every single time.

He won’t get fired this year. But if next year goes this way too? Hallef***ingluia

 

[SabresFan26]

Ok I'm leaving for a bit. Holy overreaction. THis remains their hardest game remaining, and remains the game they could most afford to lose tiebreaker wise.

It sucks, but this season is not over. They're IN if they win out and they're probably in at 10-7, especially if the 2nd loss is to Dallas.

Sure it’s not mathematically over yet but they need to run the table. I don’t see that happening. Maybe 2-3 wins at 8-9 total wins.

Someday you’ll get sick of losing close games and never winning anything.

The only positive is that, with Leslie and Dorsey already out…there is no one else to point at but the coward who does this every single time.

Wish someone had the balls to ask him if the defensive coordinator's job is safe in the post game.

 

[misterchainsaw]

50% chance we don't get the ball (and then relinquish the TD, and the offense doesn't see the field)

No. You said 50/50 chance they never see the ball. Implying the defense gives up the TD 100% of the time.