Buffalo Bills Season's End: The Off-Seasons Starts Now

[Sabreality]

Stephen A Smith thinks that Diggs might be part of the problem and needs to go. Not a surprising thing, as receivers can be a pain in the ass for QBs sometimes.

Hypothetical for all the cap guys on here: assume that Diggs asks out and the Bills agree. Is there any way for the Bills to move on from Diggs this off-season without crippling their cap? Could Dallas agree to take on money if the Bills trade him for peanuts?

I don't think so as far as cap is concerned, you can't trade that dead cap money.

And blaming Diggs is low hanging fruit, par for the course for that clown SAS.

I have zero issue with Diggs, the guy gives a shit and can back it up, least of my concerns when it comes to the makeup of the offense.

 

[misterchainsaw]

I don't think so as far as cap is concerned, you can't trade that dead cap money.

And blaming Diggs is low hanging fruit, par for the course for that clown SAS.

I have zero issue with Diggs, the guy gives a shit and can back it up, least of my concerns when it comes to the makeup of the offense.

And it's not like the INT's are coming on throws forced in to Diggs. I believe Allen's numbers are ridiculously good on targets to Stef this year.

I wouldn't waste a single brain cell on what Stephen A. Smith "thinks"

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

The keyboard warriors who haven’t watched a down of Bills football that are defending Dorsey on Twitter purely because of the numbers are getting quite frustrating. Almost as frustrating as those who think he got fired because of yesterday.

 

[Zman5778]

Hypothetical for all the cap guys on here: assume that Diggs asks out and the Bills agree. Is there any way for the Bills to move on from Diggs this off-season without crippling their cap? Could Dallas agree to take on money if the Bills trade him for peanuts?

From a post of mine a couple of pages ago:

I just looked it up on overthecap.com

If we trade him after June 1......it's only $8M of dead money and we'd save $19M on the cap.

Entirely doable if he's not willing to play here.

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

From a post of mine a couple of pages ago:

I just looked it up on overthecap.com

If we trade him after June 1......it's only $8M of dead money and we'd save $19M on the cap.

Entirely doable if he's not willing to play here.

Weld also incur a $22M dead cap in 2025.

 

[Zman5778]

Weld also incur a $22M dead cap in 2025.

Would we? Where you seeing this?

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

Would we? Where you seeing this?

Stefon Diggs | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com

Stefon Diggs contract and salary cap details, full contract breakdowns, salaries, signing bonus, roster bonus, dead money, and valuations.

www.spotrac.com

Click the X on the right of 2024.

Post 6/1 transactions don’t actually reduce the amount of dead cap you have, it simply spreads it over two years.

 

[Zman5778]

Apologies if this has been posted, but it's a decent breakdown of our offense from Orlovsky (who does occasionally make good, solid points)

 

[stealth1]

From that, it shows Allen has been an issue as well this season.

 

[Zman5778]

Stefon Diggs | NFL Contracts & Salaries | Spotrac.com

Stefon Diggs contract and salary cap details, full contract breakdowns, salaries, signing bonus, roster bonus, dead money, and valuations.

www.spotrac.com

Click the X on the right of 2024.

Post 6/1 transactions don’t actually reduce the amount of dead cap you have, it simply spreads it over two years.

Ahhhhhh, I see. Thank you. Much appreciated.

 

[Zman5778]

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From that, it shows Allen has been an issue as well this season.

I don't think anyone (outside of some Twits) is saying that Allen is absent any blame. He absolutely has been a problem with the offense.

But I think you'll find that most think he's "A" problem and not "THE" problem.

IMO, "THE" problem with the Bills offense is that as soon as we find something that works.........we go away from it because reasons.

 

[stealth1]

I don't think anyone (outside of some Twits) is saying that Allen is absent any blame. He absolutely has been a problem with the offense.

But I think you'll find that most think he's "A" problem and not "THE" problem.

IMO, "THE" problem with the Bills offense is that as soon as we find something that works.........we go away from it because reasons.

What's hurt Allen more than anything is taking away what made him so good. He was at his best when scrambling and making big plays. Making him take underneath stuff and make long drives is not where he excels.

IMO the biggest problem is McDermott wanting to offense be one that chews clock so the defense stays off the field.

 

[SwordsgoneWild]

Save us Sabres.... Firing Dorsey was the right thing to do but we have more problems than a schizo offense... McD seat should have a inferno below it right about now... If we lose to the Jets then something more needs to be done.

 

[DapperCam]

Problem is both cover 0 blitzes worked. The call on Taron was a little light imo but also l, he knows it cover 0, can't get beat like that and def needs to get his head around and the game is over.

Taron was on an island, and had to defend the slant which was the higher % play. If he gives up the slant, Jeudy gets a first down and the Broncos spike it in long FG range.

He can’t run with a speedy WR like that down the field, it isn’t his game.

 

[Der Jaeger]

What's hurt Allen more than anything is taking away what made him so good. He was at his best when scrambling and making big plays. Making him take underneath stuff and make long drives is not where he excels.

IMO the biggest problem is McDermott wanting to offense be one that chews clock so the defense stays off the field.

Those aren't mutually exclusive ideas.

Take the Bills two scoring drives last night. Run heavy, power football. Allen made two real good throws on those drives.

Establish that type of offense early. Then run play action off of it. Get the short passing game going.

Doing all that opens up the explosive plays. When Diggs scored the touchdown against the Bengals last week, it came after a series of runs and short passes.

You can be a power run team that throws short and still be explosive. Trying to be explosive every play makes you predictable.

 

[MOGlLNY]

Save us Sabres.... Firing Dorsey was the right thing to do but we have more problems than a schizo offense... McD seat should have a inferno below it right about now... If we lose to the Jets then something more needs to be done.

McDermott is here until the end of the season.

 

[Waterfowlist]

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From that, it shows Allen has been an issue as well this season.

You can do that with every QB.

That’s the same as the folks that say “if you take away his 3, 50 yard runs, the rush defense was good. All the games count.

Take out the Jets and Denver games and those numbers look very different.

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

Probably the most depressing thing to me is that I believe there’s about a 2% chance the Pegulas would actually pull the trigger on canning McDermott, even if we lose out.

 

[Jim Bob]

 

[Fezzy126]

I don't think anyone (outside of some Twits) is saying that Allen is absent any blame. He absolutely has been a problem with the offense.

But I think you'll find that most think he's "A" problem and not "THE" problem.

IMO, "THE" problem with the Bills offense is that as soon as we find something that works.........we go away from it because reasons.

You gotta be careful with this line of thinking, because Dahlin and Skinner were both "problems" under Krueger. I'm not trying to make any kind of direct comparison here, just saying that coaching matters A LOT.

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Posted this about Brady a while back, reposting for anyone that missed it:

Re: Brady - I agree, there wasn't much to work with in Carolina, but going back and reading up on some of the analysis from Panthers writers is pretty scary:

A Look at Why the Joe Brady Experiment Failed



Sound familiar?

 

[Der Jaeger]

I still think that McDermott should monitor the situation in Washington. Coaching matters a lot in the NFL - there's so much that goes into it. I remember seeing the Bills coaches with cots, pillows, and blankets in their offices. They put in a ton of hours to develop complex game plans - and what I experiences was during the 1994 season. Football has evolved and gotten more complex since then.

Imagine adding a DC like Rivera: he's coaches a bunch of different schemes and could incorporate some multiple front ideas into the defense. He's also been a HC so he knows that McDermott needs in a DC.

Bienemy is a west coast offense guy who would really change the way the Bills play on offense. He's also coached Mahomes, so he's experienced with a star QB.

That's where the Bills should look, or ideas like/similar to this one.

 

[Husko]

Stephen A Smith thinks that Diggs might be part of the problem and needs to go. Not a surprising thing, as receivers can be a pain in the ass for QBs sometimes.

Hypothetical for all the cap guys on here: assume that Diggs asks out and the Bills agree. Is there any way for the Bills to move on from Diggs this off-season without crippling their cap? Could Dallas agree to take on money if the Bills trade him for peanuts?

Stephen A smith is just a blowhard, but should they want to do that:

-Pre June 1 trade would be 31 million dead cap, so would add 3 million to the cap hit.
-Post June 1 trade would be 9 million dead next year (19 million in space), 22 million dead in 2025

 

[Fezzy126]

I’m not saying it’s not true. But what’s the working theory on his meddling on offense I keep seeing referenced?


And my biggest concern is that McDermott has just lost this team. They seem a bit broken. Players are making more mistakes, it seems to be in their head.

I agree. I really like Fairburn overall but I've never seen these theories validated and he's stating them as facts.

I agree, it’s totally on the players. But at a certain point, a pattern of poor execution is something that reflects the coaches. This is the second time in three years we have lost a game due to a special team miscommunication. One is too many. Two is unprecedented

Thinking about this a bit, I would say that the defense is still playing with good execution and discipline, despite the fact that we are deep into the depth chart due to injuries. It's the offense and special teams that look more undisciplined than ever.

Obviously a change at OC might help improve the quality control issues, but I wonder if this also reflects on McDermott's move to full-time DC and having less time to oversee the other two units.

 

[Paxon]

Because people need their scapegoats. Simple as that.

We're well on our way to chasing out of town the man with the best winning percentage in Bills history over a single middling season.

For the record I absolutely think going without a DC was a mistake and that he should hire someone there that aligns to his philosophy this offseason.

But I love all these "He'S MeDdLiNg WiTh tHe OfFeNsE" accusations when the reality is he probably has too much to do already just coordinating the defense combined with the head coaching duties.

I mean, it's not making him a "scapegoat". He's the head coach. The buck stops with him. It's completely reasonable to put it on him. I'm saying that as someone who isn't really on the fire McDermott train.

 

[Zman5778]

You gotta be careful with this line of thinking, because Dahlin and Skinner were both "problems" under Krueger. I'm not trying to make any kind of direct comparison here, just saying that coaching matters A LOT.

I get what you're trying to say.....and I think there is certainly an element of Dorsey probably holding Allen back (just like Ralphie held back Dahlin and Skinner).............but I do believe that Allen is making poor decisions even outside of Dorsey.

Again -- my hope is that this firing awakens the slumbering Allen.