Buffalo Bills Season's End: The Off-Seasons Starts Now

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18 points sucks. I expect that from the Panthers not the Bills.
The Bills were solidly above the league average for points per possession with an average drive start significantly worse than the league average. "Sucked" is laughably simplistic and not at all a realistic representation of what actually occurred.

But I know ignoring the surrounding context of the actual game is the easy thing to do.

Can they be better? Yes. And they'll probably have to be with the current state of the defense. The 3-4 drive lull after the opening td hurt. But those lulls happened under daboll too. The difference is our defense while daboll was here in general got the back back much quicker in much better field position than the banged up unit we have now is capable of, especially against a competent offense like the Bengals.
 
This is a misleading tweet, specifically regarding the Texans. The Texans winning was vastly preferably to the Bengals winning, given the H2H tiebreaker and Cincy was already a game ahead of the Texans.

In fact if the Chargers lose I'd call today's games a slight positive for the wild card picture. The cincy loss outweighs the Browns upset, imo. Especially since it means Cleveland could be the division winner anyway
 
The Bills were solidly above the league average for points per possession with an average drive start significantly worse than the league average. "Sucked" is laughably simplistic and not at all a realistic representation of what actually occurred.

But I know ignoring the surrounding context of the actual game is the easy thing to do.

Can they be better? Yes. And they'll probably have to be with the current state of the defense. The 3-4 drive lull after the opening td hurt. But those lulls happened under daboll too. The difference is our defense while daboll was here in general got the back back much quicker in much better field position than the banned up unit we have now is.
I watched the game and the Bills went 3 and out several times and had a couple punts that were stinkers the offense was even worse than the defense. They basically had 1 good offensive drive the entire first half and then got most of their yards trying to catch up in the 2nd half when the Bengals were playing softer.
 
I watched the game and the Bills went 3 and out several times and had a couple punts that were stinkers the offense was even worse than the defense. They basically had 1 good offensive drive the entire first half and then got most of their yards trying to catch up in the 2nd half when the Bengals were playing softer.

The Texans turned the ball over to the Bengals after 3 or less offensive plays exactly as much as the Bills did last week. The difference their defense got the ball back more often for their offense (holding the Bengals to 4 straight 3 and outs plus forcing 2 turnovers on top of that) in slightly more favorable field position.

Maybe you should watch some other games? You might realize that offense has been down and difficult for teams across the league and not just here.
 
Re: this week's game, I am very concerned. Denver has been playing much better after they made changes on defense after Miami pounded them, and I think their style of offense is well suited to take advantage of the holes in the middle of our defense and play keep away a lot like the Bengals were able to for chunks of the game last week. They're also off their bye week.

It wouldn't surprise me if Denver lived in 2nd and 3rd and short and never really had to force things leading to another turnover-less day and the offense consistently starting in the shadow of their own goalposts again.
 
The standings situation isn't dire, so I don't get the doom and gloom with that (the bills inconsistency and big picture offensive issues warrant enough concern).

There are 6 teams with less losses than the bills, but 5 of them have only one less loss. And then there are three teams with as many losses. Also, the Bills haven't had their bye week (and most of these other teams have), meaning they all have an extra week they could lose.

If the bills win their next two games (at home against the broncos and jets), the bills will be in a great spot at that point as a lot of these teams will lose 1 to 2 games over those two weeks.

IF the bills can win those games. And it is a big IF. But 7-4 in two weeks will be a good AFC record


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It can't be helped!
 
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The standings situation isn't dire, so I don't get the doom and gloom with that (the bills inconsistency and big picture offensive issues warrant enough concern).

There are 6 teams with less losses than the bills, but 5 of them have only one less loss. And then there are three teams with as many losses. Also, the Bills haven't had their bye week (and most of these other teams have), meaning they all have an extra week they could lose.

If the bills win their next two games (at home against the broncos and jets), they then get their bye week. The bills will be in a great spot at that point as a lot of these teams will lose 1 to 2 games over those three weeks.

IF the bills can win those games. And it is a big IF. But 7-4 in three weeks will be a good AFC record


It can't be helped!
I agree with all of this but I think the eagles game is before the bye.
 
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Well then NEVERMIND


Also, a ton of these AFC teams play each other over the next three weeks. Next we get Bal v. CIN, PIT v. CLE, then we get MIA v. NYJ, PIT v. CIN, BAL v. LAC, and then we get CIN v. JAC
Yeah that's my thinking why someone in the North is gonna drop and open up a spot, and there's no clear cut wild card team from the other divisions. I think CIN still plays KC too.
 
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Yep. Eagles and Niners are better than anything the AFC has to offer this year. Lions are on par with anything in the AFC. Hell, the Cowboys might even be in that mix as well.
Nah, the AFC is leaps and bounds ahead of the NFC. I also wouldn't be surprised is the Eagles and 49ers don't make it to the Superbowl.
 
Meh I'm not sure i agree. The bottom of the AFC is FAR better than the bottom of the NFC so teams are in dogfights every week in the AFC.

3 of the 4 games that the eagles and nines have lost have been to the AFC. Baltimore beat the crap of of the Lions. The overall record is 32-20 in favor of the AFC right now.

Totally agreed that the bottom of the AFC is loads better than the bottom of the NFC.

I'm just not so sure that the top 2-3 teams in the AFC are better than the top 2-3 teams in the NFC.

I guess we'll see.
 
Totally agreed that the bottom of the AFC is loads better than the bottom of the NFC.

I'm just not so sure that the top 2-3 teams in the AFC are better than the top 2-3 teams in the NFC.

I guess we'll see.

I don’t disagree with you. But it’s the AFC that is going to put the franchise QBs in the playoffs. And I think a franchise QB on a playoff team winning >>> a better team without the franchise QB
 
Kyler Murray being back could make a couple more games interesting. They still have games against the Texans and Steelers. The Steelers in particular you could see Kyler providing just enough offense for the Cards to upset Pittsburgh.
 
If Conklin doesn’t put his hand up, I’m 95% confident Garrett Wilson makes that catch.

I still can’t believe we managed to lose to Zach Wilson and milkbag. And could very well still lose to Zach Wilson again! The Jets defense is a menace.
 
Was it though?

Currently, there are 11 AFC teams with 5 wins or more.

All today did was bunch the field up, which doesn't help us that much.
I think overall it was a positive if you go by the assumption 9-8 is dead in the water (and I think this was always going to be the case with the AFC holding a significant head to head edge over the NFC) and you just want to make sure 10-7 is good enough. Chargers took their 5th loss and play us, so a win over them all but crosses them off the spoiler list. The Browns winning isn't great but you HAVE to think one of the AFC North teams will hit 8 losses (Cincinatti for example doesn't play anyone that is currently below .500 the rest of the year and still goes into Kansas City and Jacksonville, and has 4 divisional games left)

And even in divisional rankings if you happen to be an optimistic sort, Jacksonville and Baltimore both lost meaning we're only 1 loss behind 2&3 and still play #1.
 
Was it though?

Currently, there are 11 AFC teams with 5 wins or more.

All today did was bunch the field up, which doesn't help us that much.

It brought a lot of teams to 4 and 5 losses. the teams above us mainly dropped, and the teams below us caught up. I think most would think that’s good.

But it’s too early to tell what outcomes are actually good or bad!
 
Was it though?

Currently, there are 11 AFC teams with 5 wins or more.

All today did was bunch the field up, which doesn't help us that much.
I'm concerned with winning the AFC East first then worrying about Wildcard possibilities. Baltimore, LA, Jax, NYJ, and Cincinnati losses are all good from my perspective.
 
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Sunday was a good day for the Buffalo Bills!

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Wouldn't it be interesting if the Bills and Phins both finish 10-7 and play each other for the division and playoff spot the final week of the season.
 
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SalC expects Douglas to start at corner tonight and Hamlin to be activated at safety with Benford & Hyde out.

Denver has a good run game so expect Linvall Joseph to be in alot.

Sal mentioned Williams and Dodson worked well together in Cinci. I wonder if we will see AJ Klein with more of a role if Bernard is out.

Interesting betting story here from yesterday.

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