Post-Game Talk: Season Over, Jets Lose 4-1

[jetsv2]

lol media was almost afraid to ask a question. Bones had more passion/pushback in that short clip than the Jets did all night. Feel for the guy.

When the coach starts by saying its going to be short and sweet, you cant really expect to get any kind of detailed analysis of his team's play. Jeff Hamilton is a local guy who Bowness knows so he was willing to engage a bit with him but nobody else was going to get anything from asking a question tonight.

 

[rkp]

gonna be an interesting show with hustler on WST show tomorrow afternoon at 1PM

 

[GrassyKnoll]

Way to go, Bones! F****n' A!

His post-game comments nailed it 100%. The Jets showed they seem to have had some cajones only when they pulled Helle with 7 minutes left (and maybe perhaps the latter part of the 3rd period of Game 3), but other than that, well, "lackluster, mediocre, etc" is the polite choice of words for how they played this series, and since the All-Star break. If Chipman cans him (as one poster here suggested) for stating the obvious truth, then it would prove that this team's ownership/management is totally lacking credibility, that is, if they continue to bury their heads in the sand about the state of this team. And that definitely won't help their upcoming season ticket sales. Or just maybe...

...Bones just lit a fire under Chipman's a** (and a good number of the players) and maybe heads will roll. If Chevy gets sent packing (12 years and one WCF to show for it), plus some players (the usual guilty culprits), then I'd be okay with a rebuild. Either way, a disappointing end to what started off as a promising season.

Despite it all, I forever remain a Winnipeg Jets fan.

P.S. - the Maple Laffs lost tonight! Let's at least take some joy from that! Go Lightning!

 

[BrokerD]

When the coach starts by saying it’s going to be short and sweet, you cant really expect to get any kind of detailed analysis of his team's play. Jeff Hamilton is a local guy who Bowness knows so he was willing to engage a bit with him but nobody else was going to get anything from asking a question tonight.

meh, Bones wasn’t in the mood to take softball questions our media fools usually ask.

 

[Zippity]

 

[jetsv2]

If you are going to post this, you need to at least provide context. This was after the Jets lost to the Blues, not today.

 

[snowkiddin]

Locker cleanout might somehow be spicier than last year's.


Yep, beautiful game. Great characters but the story left me wanting more.

Glad to read that. Just trying to look on the bright side and with the Jets being eliminated I can now spend more time replaying RDR. I played it when it first came out but want to give it another go. Then RDR 2 is next. But anyway, I think it would be neat if I could buy a top hat like Nigel West Dickens wears. Maybe on eBay. That would be cool.

I’ll keep you updated on my RDR progress. I just did the mission where you meet Irish, so close to heading to Mexico now.

Anyway, time to eat some ice cream and watch Bowness’s presser.

 

[GJF]

TL; DR:

There will be plenty of time to discuss the off-season in the coming weeks, but for now I want to reflect on what this fleeting moment is, and how the efforts of mountains have produced just a funny little mouse.

RANT:

The thing that feels so bad about this loss in particular is that it isn't just an under-manned team putting in a lackluster effort facing difficult odds. There is so much more to it. This is 12 years of building slowly unraveling. This is a streak of 3 straight elimination games met with efforts. This is the rise and fall of our first draft pick, a dramatically unraveling elite center man. This is Buff abandoning this core of players, only to reveal bare cupboards and poor scouting (pro and amateur) in his wake. This is two lost years of Hellebuyck's prime wasted on non-playoff teams. This is the amazing sweep of the Oilers followed by the embarrassing sweep by the underdog Habs. This is rebuilding your d-core only to allow them to be coached by a guy who hadn't had this team playing with integrity for several years. This is that coach inexplicably quitting on his team, an unprecedented event, and flushing another season down the toilet (one that was already circling the drain). This is winning the draft lottery, drafting the most exciting young sniper in a decade, only to continue the downward metamorphosis, trading him for an inconsistent, seemingly spoiled, centremen who doesn't want to play for your team, who cannot drive a line, and who has shrunk when the team most needed him (yes, Laine was clearly flawed as well). This is finally again getting a coach that seemed to draw the best out of his players! ...for half a season before a cratering 21 game slide that revealed all the old issues that plagued this team for the previous 6 years. This is a remarkable game 1, where our elite players looked like elite players, followed by injury after injury after injury. This is the last chance of a core that we have discussed and argued about for over a decade, following their World Juniors performances, stat watching their amateur seasons, watching them play for the Moose. Everything seemed to be coming together again, for a final charge, but it all ended with a soft, whimper. A shallow gasp at a stroke of bad luck. There is so much threaded into this one loss it's making my head spin.

I don't post much, but still say thanks to all you fellas and ladies for sharing the insanity of pro sports in a small market with me.

This says it all. I feel completely empty as a fan of the Winnipeg Jets for the first time ever since I started following the Atlanta Thrashers. It feels like my time as an NHL fan kind of ends right here. It started with the time around the rumours of Atlanta being sold to Winnipeg, the excitment of the idea to me, finally going to have a team that competes every year, has a die hard fan base, everything you'd want from your hockey obsession. It would be a long and rocky road but Game 1 of the preseason, when Buff crushed 3 Blue Jackets in the first shift alone and Winnipeg went completely NUTS, I knew, this was gonna be good. What hurts the most to me is exactly what you described - the entire process of following the drafts of Scheifele, Lowry, Trouba, Hellebuyck, Ehlers, Connor, Laine - watching their junior records, week in and week out, watching their paths to the NHL and ... it didn't lead to anything. At least not for the Winnipeg Jets.

Evander Kane tracksuit was the beginning of the end. We just didn't knew back then. "Winnipeg has a problem" was written in articles, in online threads etc. They were right. It maybe grew to something way bigger than it was but this core never had it to actually go all the way. The writing was on the wall for years. So many players left or didn't want to stay longer as they had to. Buff just... gave up. The guy that seemed dedicated the most when on the ice for years, how looked like the obvious emotional leader pretty much every night out there. He knew. He's never gonna say it publibly because it wouldn't look good at all but honestly I'm convinced by now: Buff knew and since he knew it wasn't gonna happen and he wasn't gonna make the commitment anymore and just left.

Maurice, even though he wasn't the right coach for this core, knew as well IMO. He tried to give it all right up until the end. Maurice isn't a bad coach, I think he just needs the right team and I am not talking player style here, I am talking the right kind of people. But at the end, he had to give it up, probably for his own sanity. Same reason why Buff had to give it up. For his own sanity.

This organization had EVERYTHING you'd want, it was not out of accident that The Hockey News put them on their cover back then saying "Your Stanley Cup Champions 2018".

To get back to the beginning: I'm not saying I'm gonna stop being a Jets fan but I NEED to see the right moves this summer before I can start caring again. I might need to step away even further, before I can tackle another 10 years of new era. Doing it all over again. The drafts, the prospect watching, the crappy 640p OHL/WHL streams, the WJCs, the sucking and feeling excited because we looked good against another good team with a rebuilding team... I didn't think it would feel this crushing to start the entire cycle again, back when Buff crushed those two Blue Jackets players. But how could I?

 

[None]

Anyway, time to eat some ice cream and watch Bowness’s presser.

Don't savour the ice cream too much or you'll only get a spoonful before the presser ends

 

[Hunter368]

Bag day should be fun day for the media and player quotes haha

 

[None]

Bag day should be fun day for the media and player quotes haha

Cleanout day will be spicy after what Bowness said. I'm not sure how the players could possibly pretend it was nothing.

I'll be interested in hearing Chevy's state of the franchise as well because last offseason he completely downplayed the players' comments as heat of the moment emotion. Will he do the same of Bowness' comments?

 

[objectiveposter]

maurice quits, bowness snaps....all within less than 2 seasons.
Dont worry everything is fine chevy will just trade for a 4th liner and new backup goalie.

 

[Zippity]

If you are going to post this, you need to at least provide context. This was after the Jets lost to the Blues, not today.

 

[heilongjetsfan]

Absolute garbage post I'm going to keep calling out your shit posts with regards to that presser. Bones had the balls to say what was needed to be said, which was the goddamn truth.

I dunno when pointing fingers has ever been considered ballsy. And it might have been true, but it was also true in the series vs St. Louis, it was true for the last 3 games of our series against Montreal and it was true during that stretch at the start where we won a lot of games playing shitty hockey. Bones' job was to fix it, not whine about it to the media before his players even had their skates off. I just don't think it's the time to throw your guys under the bus.

 

[jetsv2]

maurice quits, bowness snaps....all within less than 2 seasons.
Dont worry everything is fine chevy will just trade for a 4th liner and new backup goalie.

Jeff Hamilton and Sean Reynolds both seem to think that Bowness snapping tonight might have actually been him quitting. I guess we will see in the next little while but it might actually be 2 coaches quitting in less than 2 years.

I dunno when pointing fingers has ever been considered ballsy. And it might have been true, but it was also true in the series vs St. Louis, it was true for the last 3 games of our series against Montreal and it was true during that stretch at the start where we won a lot of games playing shitty hockey. Bones' job was to fix it, not whine about it to the media before his players even had their skates off. I just don't think it's the time to throw your guys under the bus.

The media all seem to agree that Bowness was not talking to the players tonight, they think his comments were targeted at Chipman and Chevy. He was calling out in public that serious changes need to be made to the players on this team.

 

[Hunter368]

Cleanout day will be spicy after what Bowness said. I'm not sure how the players could possibly pretend it was nothing.

I'll be interested in hearing Chevy's state of the franchise as well because last offseason he completely downplayed the players' comments as heat of the moment emotion. Will he do the same of Bowness' comments?

I mean in all honesty getting quotes right after a critical game and loss will often lead many memorable quotes. Just look at the 1000’s of emotional quotes post games from players and coaches from all sports on YouTube. No doubt after a day or two Bones answer might be slightly different when he’s less emotional. But in truth his comments weren’t wrong.

 

[AnonoJet]

This is a sick, sick franchise. No matter what Bowness does now, ownership and Chevy can’t hide from it any longer. Rick did all of us a favour by leaving no place for anyone to hide. More of the same will cost a lot of ticket revenue.

 

[jetsv2]

I mean in all honesty getting quotes right after a critical game and loss will often lead many memorable quotes. Just look at the 1000’s of emotional quotes post games from players and coaches from all sports on YouTube. No doubt after a day or two Bones answer might be slightly different when he’s less emotional. But in truth his comments weren’t wrong.

The Illegal Curve guys, Sean Reynolds and Jeff Hamilton all said that they feel based on his comments tonight that Bowness is possibly done with the Jets or at least will only be back if significant changes are made to the roster.

He has been holding those comments in for 3+ months, he acknowledged that fact to Jeff Hamilton. I don't think they were a heat of the moment thing.

 

[None]

Jeff Hamilton and Sean Reynolds both seem to think that Bowness snapping tonight might have actually been him quitting. I guess we will see in the next little while but it might actually be 2 coaches quitting in less than 2 years.

Even if it wasn't him outright quitting he made it just about impossible for the team to not make changes.

I mean in all honesty getting quotes right after a critical game and loss will often lead many memorable quotes. Just look at the 1000’s of emotional quotes post games from players and coaches from all sports on YouTube. No doubt after a day or two Bones answer might be slightly different when he’s less emotional. But in truth his comments weren’t wrong.

For sure, but Bowness emphatically suggested that what he said wasn't a new thought and it's a recurring issue going back to January. I think he was being completely and brutally honest. But I also think he probably would've tempered his message if he had more time to cool off.

So while it was emotional and angry in how it was delivered I think the issues are still completely valid.

Edit: I think my post is just agreeing with yours after re-reading

 

[GJF]

Bones ain’t coming back, don’t blame him!

also - this is the nail in the coffin for the entire "from new team to the Stanley Cup" cycle

 

[snowkiddin]

I hope the moderators here don’t mind me sharing a little story about how, in a roundabout way, Paul Friesen steered me away from a life or crime, and for that, I will always be thankful, no matter how trash his takes are.

Basically, I wanted to be a reporter for a while when I was in college, but then I saw Paul Friesen (and the others, but he stuck out) continuously getting trashed for being a dumbass. Now, being a dumbass myself, I didn’t think I’d appreciate people knowing my real identity and trashing me, so I stick to this anonymous message board where I can troll Leaf fans on the main board and share my mindless thoughts here. Being a reporter probably wouldn’t work out well for me.

As for the life of crime part, given how poorly most journos seem to get paid these days and combining that with my poor financial discipline, and I’d probably have to rob banks to survive whilst reporting.

 

[Hunter368]

The Illegal Curve guys, Sean Reynolds and Jeff Hamilton all said that they feel based on his comments tonight that Bowness is possibly done with the Jets or at least will only be back if significant changes are made to the roster.

He has been holding those comments in for 3+ months, he acknowledged that fact to Jeff Hamilton. I don't think they were a heat of the moment thing.

TBH after those comments I won’t be surprised in the least that either:

- Bones quits or is fired

- Multi Core players Are traded

- Multi core players are traded and Bones either quits or is fired.

Not easy to recover or carry on after those comments like nothing happened or was said

 

[GJF]

I think

TBH after those comments I won’t be surprised in the least that either:

- Bones quits or is fired

- Multi Core players Are traded

- Multi core players are traded and Bones either quits or is fired.

Not easy to recover or carry on after those comments like nothing happened or was said

Agree, I think it will be a "You listen to me and clear out all those rotten pieces on the roster and we put together and actualy group that fights for each other with pride or am gone right here, right now - your call Chevy" kind of thing. But there is absolutetly no way Bones stays AND he doesn't get exactly the changes he wants

 

[rkp]

I have a feeling if bones doesnt see the changers he expects or wants, or thinks management aint gonna make the changes, he is just gonna quit.....he is set for life moneywise, does he at his age need the headache of babysitting twenty/thirty yr old kids?

lol...what do you expect from a manchild!

 

[None]

I think


Agree, I think it will be a "You listen to me and clear out all those rotten pieces on the roster and we put together and actualy group that fights for each other with pride or am gone right here, right now - your call Chevy" kind of thing. But there is absolutetly no way Bones stays AND he doesn't get exactly the changes he wants

I'm sure the players are well aware of who he's calling out. I don't see any scenario where Bowness stays and those players aren't shipped out.
It just seems completely untenable to me but I guess Chevy's let toxicity fester before so