Value of: Sean Monahan

[Kahvi]

wow

Flames are interested in trading Monahan if he's a part of bigger package, to get 1C upgrade. Anyone else on the Canadiens they should be asking in this scenario?

Not saying there's a deal to be made, just hoping that you could spend maybe 1minute reading and thinking what was actually said

 

[Homesick]

I'm guessing Monahan would be part of the package for Eichel

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

wow

No that statemeny is accurate, Calgary is tryong to compete and definitely has better playoff odds than Montreal. Besides those 2 players what can Montreal offer that then helps improve Calgary's playoff results?

Just because Montreal may not trade either of those players for Monahan doesn't mean Calgary has to move him for other random assets that dont improve their roster

 

[Snipes45]

I'm guessing Monahan would be part of the package for Eichel

If Jim T can get Eichel and Monohan would be the "top" player going back in a large package, they should announce Jim's Gm Hall of Fame spot right then and there for after he retired.

 

[Figgy44]

If Jim T can get Eichel and Monohan would be the "top" player going back in a large package, they should announce Jim's Gm Hall of Fame spot right then and there for after he retired.

Are you talking about his son, Brad?

 

[Snipes45]

Are you talking about his son, Brad?

Yeah. You had to waste time typing that out lol. Jim, Brad, . Who cares

 

[Figgy44]

Yeah. You had to waste time typing that out lol. Jim, Brad, . Who cares

Oh, for other reasons, I was actually looking at a Jim T in the Flames management group, so I got really confused for a moment.

Flames Physician is a Jim Thorne. I brain farted thinking he'd have a major part of of the discussions relating to an Eichel deal because I could see him involved with the review and analysis of the medical records. My brain was also going, "He's not even the head physician".

My bad. My brain is weird like that at times.

 

[InfinityIggy]

Yeah. You had to waste time typing that out lol. Jim, Brad, . Who cares

You also spelled Monahan wrong.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

If Jim T can get Eichel and Monohan would be the "top" player going back in a large package, they should announce Jim's Gm Hall of Fame spot right then and there for after he retired.

How is that a crazy unrealistic trade to you? I would hope Monahan and 3 other 1sts in value can get an injured Eichel.

 

[Homesick]

If Jim T can get Eichel and Monohan would be the "top" player going back in a large package, they should announce Jim's Gm Hall of Fame spot right then and there for after he retired.

I don't see Eichel having peak value considering his status. Buffalo isn't going to give him away but I can't see any teams parting with prime pieces when it's doubtful he'll even play this year or if he'll ever be the same again

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

How is that a crazy unrealistic trade to you? I would hope Monahan and 3 other 1sts in value can get an injured Eichel.

Monahan's health track record is pretty dubious. At this point he's not really worth much until he proves he's not the one dimensional 3rd line player he looked like last year. I would actually think he's close to negative value with his contract.

I would think Monahan would be used to help offset salary / roster spot and wouldn't be a cornerstone of any deal for Eichel.

 

[Big Empty]

The Flames should hold on to Monahan. He's more than capable of scoring 30 goals.

No doubt he's had a tough couple of past seasons but he could bounce back. There's no point in selling low now, unless it's for a nice upgrade at C.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Monahan's health track record is pretty dubious. At this point he's not really worth much until he proves he's not the one dimensional 3rd line player he looked like last year. I would actually think he's close to negative value with his contract.

I would think Monahan would be used to help offset salary / roster spot and wouldn't be a cornerstone of any deal for Eichel.

I am fairly certain right now if Boston (for example) wanted Monahan they would do DeBrusk and a 1st without much hesitation at all. He does not have negative value like you are so obsessed with arguing.

As for "being a cornerstone" in an Eichel trade, he is clearly there for cap reasons, Calgary can't just add 10M cap to their roster. Even after last season I would say he is easily still worth 1/4th of a broken Eichel

 

[Homesick]

Monahan's health track record is pretty dubious. At this point he's not really worth much until he proves he's not the one dimensional 3rd line player he looked like last year. I would actually think he's close to negative value with his contract.

I would think Monahan would be used to help offset salary / roster spot and wouldn't be a cornerstone of any deal for Eichel.

He's missed 39 career games in 8 seasons. Eichel has missed 77 games in 6 seasons and not expected to play this year

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

He's missed 39 career games in 8 seasons. Eichel has missed 77 games in 6 seasons and not expected to play this year

Monahan plays through a lot of injuries, he should have missed 50 games last season. Also Eichel if traded soon is expected to play by January

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

I am fairly certain right now if Boston (for example) wanted Monahan they would do DeBrusk and a 1st without much hesitation at all. He does not have negative value like you are so obsessed with arguing.

As for "being a cornerstone" in an Eichel trade, he is clearly there for cap reasons, Calgary can't just add 10M cap to their roster. Even after last season I would say he is easily still worth 1/4th of a broken Eichel

If that were available Monahan would have been traded already.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

If that were available Monahan would have been traded already.

No he wouldnt, why would Calgary want another LW?

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

No he wouldnt, why would Calgary want another LW?

They would want the 1st round pick. And adding another LW would be fine for their third line, where Monahan may end up playing anyway if Dube moves to C.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

They would want the 1st round pick. And adding another LW would be fine for their third line, where Monahan may end up playing anyway if Dube moves to C.

Monahan is worth more than a late 1st. Your hate for him is actually hilarious. Dube has also been very meh at center, definitely not better than Monahan

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Monahan is worth more than a late 1st. Your hate for him is actually hilarious. Dube has also been very meh at center, definitely not better than Monahan

I don't hate Monahan, I just don't think he's that good. I would definitely trade a 6.4M one dimensional player for a first round pick, especially if said player is a defensive liability and can't create his own offense.

 

[3074326]

Monahan plays through a lot of injuries, he should have missed 50 games last season. Also Eichel if traded soon is expected to play by January

He played 50 games. So you're saying he was injured enough to miss the entire season last year, yet he played every game?

I mean, maybe you're right, I didn't watch. Just seems very strange to hold injuries against a guy who is routinely playing nearly every game.

 

[Figgy44]

He played 50 games. So you're saying he was injured enough to miss the entire season last year, yet he played every game?

I mean, maybe you're right, I didn't watch. Just seems very strange to hold injuries against a guy who is routinely playing nearly every game.

https://thewincolumn.ca/2021/05/13/breaking-down-sean-monahans-history-of-playing-through-injuries/

Many Flames fans often wonder why he plays through this stuff and management doesn't just intervene and shut him down. Playing through the occasional injury I guess is amiable I guess.... but with what Monahan plays through, it just seems like a detriment to his own career as well as the overall quality of play on the Flames at times. We like healthy Monahan, but are often very frustrated seeing injured Monahan being overplayed.

When Monahan's play dips, we often immediately conclude he's trying to hide some injury.

 

[Junohockeyfan]

No that's not accurate at all. Flames aren't tanking like Arizona so they aren't going to move him for futures. He may not get Caufield or Suzuki (and I totally understand why) but there is no reason for Calgary to move him for anything less than getting an upgrade right now

No one would trade an upgrade for Monahan. He’s a declining asset and injuries have impacted his reliability. You would only get lesser pieces for this type if player. Give your head a shake!!

 

[Deen]

Monahan for Filip Forsberg is something I could buy in to.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

He played 50 games. So you're saying he was injured enough to miss the entire season last year, yet he played every game?

I mean, maybe you're right, I didn't watch. Just seems very strange to hold injuries against a guy who is routinely playing nearly every game.

He said in a recent interview that the injury he got hip surgery for at the end of the season (after they were eliminated) he was feeling since game 6 of the season.

Him, the team medical staff, and the management likely agreed that sidlining him 6 games inyo the year pretty much meant they were writing off the season so they chose to keep him in the line up, an injured Monahan is still better than no Monahan when the team had no viable replacements for him (notice Brett Ritchie was a regular in the top 6)