Confirmed with Link: Sean Farrell signed 3 year ELC (2022-23 to 2024-25)

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Do some of the posters here have the self awareness to see what dramatic overreactionists they are. It's like the same people are wrong way more often than not but yet they show up at every available opportunity to spout nonsense without hesitation. Eventually you would have to realize that about yourself even if you are completely obtuse and lacking all introspection would you not?

This guy plays his first NHL game last night and the perennially wrong are already making absolute statements and proclaiming his future for next year. Honestly it's completely crazy, how arrogant do you need to be to jump on a guy after his first 10 minutes of ice time in the NHL. Ya'll need to chill so bad.

Well said. However, I still believe in Farrell's potential but the starting point should be Laval. This is all about the NCAA contract he earned over Struble due to the season he has. We had to sign him to the 3 year ELC and burn one year where he plays some NHL games.

We won't know how good he is for a bit yet. He's one that should not be rushed though so for now, enjoy what you can see at the NHL level but it's likely to be AHL next year. Nothing wrong with that.

Heineman and RHP are the ones that crack the roster as full time guys next year IMO.
 
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Kid did not even have a practice yet. I am seriously starting to question this management decisions despite all the talk about development, this isn't development.
 
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Kid did not even have a practice yet. I am seriously starting to question this management decisions despite all the talk about development, this isn't development.
No it’s business - his contract allows for bonus payout but needs to get in 5GP to kick in - to maintain good standing w player management need to show they value the players self interests as well.

I’m speculating the negotiation to forgo 4th year college and sign a pro deal, included a handshake agreement, Farrell would get every opportunity to hit his bonus $
 

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Kid did not even have a practice yet. I am seriously starting to question this management decisions despite all the talk about development, this isn't development.

They wanted to ensure Farrell could have his debut in front of his friends and family, I'm sure he appreciated the gesture. One game isn't going to ruin anybody.
 

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Well said. However, I still believe in Farrell's potential but the starting point should be Laval. This is all about the NCAA contract he earned over Struble due to the season he has. We had to sign him to the 3 year ELC and burn one year where he plays some NHL games.

We won't know how good he is for a bit yet. He's one that should not be rushed though so for now, enjoy what you can see at the NHL level but it's likely to be AHL next year. Nothing wrong with that.

Heineman and RHP are the ones that crack the roster as full time guys next year IMO.

Saying today that Farrell should start in Laval next October is just nonsense. He might wind up there but there are many factors that might impact where he plays and it might not be based on his ability.

1. Contracts - If Hughes can't get rid of Hoffman, Armia, Dvorak it might be a numbers game.
2. Size - Hughes has been on record that the team needs to get bigger. We already have Caufield, Gallagher and possible RHP that are 5'8". Not sure you can have 4 forwards in your lineup of that size.
3. Progression - What Farrell will be in September is not what you saw last night. Harris alluded to how important the last games of the season were for him, how it impacted his off season training and how he adapted his game. When you have players of talent and smarts like Farrell - he will come prepared at camp. And for what it's worth, he is much more skilled player than RHP - and I am not bashing RHP who plays a game way over his skill level.
 

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For me it has nothing to do with this game in particular :
- He is good but I believe he would benefit from a year learning to play with men in Laval
- MTL has a lot of wingers, Farrell will have more time to play and develop in the AHL that is all
Slaf Caufield Gallagher Hoffman Anderson Armia RHP Ylonen will be ahead of him, no point playing him bottom line minutes and sitting him every two nights
Management will wait at the next Camp to make this decision. And we will see how many bad vets thet can unload over the Summer.
 
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Saying today that Farrell should start in Laval next October is just nonsense. He might wind up there but there are many factors that might impact where he plays and it might not be based on his ability.

1. Contracts - If Hughes can't get rid of Hoffman, Armia, Dvorak it might be a numbers game.
2. Size - Hughes has been on record that the team needs to get bigger. We already have Caufield, Gallagher and possible RHP that are 5'8". Not sure you can have 4 forwards in your lineup of that size.
3. Progression - What Farrell will be in September is not what you saw last night. Harris alluded to how important the last games of the season were for him, how it impacted his off season training and how he adapted his game. When you have players of talent and smarts like Farrell - he will come prepared at camp. And for what it's worth, he is much more skilled player than RHP - and I am not bashing RHP who plays a game way over his skill level.

I'm not sure size is an issue if we have 1 small guy on each line. So 4 would be the max:

Caufield Suzuki Slaf
Farrell Dach Gurianov
RHP Dubois/Dvo Anderson
Gallagher Evan's Ylonen
 

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Saying today that Farrell should start in Laval next October is just nonsense. He might wind up there but there are many factors that might impact where he plays and it might not be based on his ability.

1. Contracts - If Hughes can't get rid of Hoffman, Armia, Dvorak it might be a numbers game.
2. Size - Hughes has been on record that the team needs to get bigger. We already have Caufield, Gallagher and possible RHP that are 5'8". Not sure you can have 4 forwards in your lineup of that size.
3. Progression - What Farrell will be in September is not what you saw last night. Harris alluded to how important the last games of the season were for him, how it impacted his off season training and how he adapted his game. When you have players of talent and smarts like Farrell - he will come prepared at camp. And for what it's worth, he is much more skilled player than RHP - and I am not bashing RHP who plays a game way over his skill level.

It's not nonsense cause we have others who are more NHL ready. I'm not low on Farrell, I rather not rush the the undersized guy and there is slightly more time/space in the AHL. Don't drown him, let him prove you wrong and earn his way up.

Of course he comes to camp next year and you give him the chance to earn a spot. But today, if I had to guess, he starts in the AHL next year. And I thought this before his first NHL game too so it's not premature in terms of just one NHL game.
 

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Kid did not even have a practice yet. I am seriously starting to question this management decisions despite all the talk about development, this isn't development.
He's 21 and has 58 college games of experience and his college season only just ended on Friday so he's in game shape already. Playing a single game in garbage time during a tank season against another tank team before practicing is not going to hamper any NHL prospect's development. He's not some delicate flower lol
 

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It's not nonsense cause we have others who are more NHL ready. I'm not low on Farrell, I rather not rush the the undersized guy and there is slightly more time/space in the AHL. Don't drown him, let him prove you wrong and earn his way up.

Of course he comes to camp next year and you give him the chance to earn a spot. But today, if I had to guess, he starts in the AHL next year. And I thought this before his first NHL game too so it's not premature in terms of just one NHL game.
No man you are wrong...we have to rush him no matter what
 
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Kid did not even have a practice yet. I am seriously starting to question this management decisions despite all the talk about development, this isn't development.
Only answer to insert him in the line up:

Dach not available
and - or
His family in the stands
 

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Thank you, you validate my point. All these players were 20 or older when they graduated with the Habs. Slaf was 18 and clearly not ready.


Did we made the mistake of not sending Caufield, Guhle, Xhekaj and Harris to the AHL?
Do they deserve to be there despite ''not earning'' they spot by not playing in Laval?

And this is temporary, it's tied to his contract, that's part of the game.
 

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It's not nonsense cause we have others who are more NHL ready. I'm not low on Farrell, I rather not rush the the undersized guy and there is slightly more time/space in the AHL. Don't drown him, let him prove you wrong and earn his way up.

Of course he comes to camp next year and you give him the chance to earn a spot. But today, if I had to guess, he starts in the AHL next year. And I thought this before his first NHL game too so it's not premature in terms of just one NHL game.
This will be a natural occurrence as we gain depth. One of the reasons we've rushed players was a direct result of the lack of organizational depth. We will certainly see a tougher road to graduation. This in turn should pay off with better interchangeability when needed.
 

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To recap, he's good, just not seasoned at pro level yet like RHP, Ylonen, Heineman. He has not yet practiced with the team, it showed but it is not a reflection of his skills. He has great vision and anticipation but, still, he needs to learn the NHL ways and the CH system.

It's nothing about the guy, nothing about his skills, it just is a matter of learning how to do thing at THIS level. Perry was extra efficient even if slow as hell. Game savy, at nhl level, makes the difference between an ok and a great player with the same toolbox.

Oh, he'll be good, not judging on one game that's sure, but it'd be nice to consider that the 5-6 games he may play are really to allow him to undertand the aspects he will need to work on this summer. And he will, he seems to be that kind of guy, then we'll see where we stand at camp.

Experience, it matters. I was very good as a junior at my work, but i sure had to work a lot harder compared to the seniors who worked smarter. ;) Once a younger player learns the systems and tricks he needs not running around and becomes more than good, he becomes efficient. That's probably where players like Harris (and likely Farell) show the biggest improvement.
 

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I'm not sure size is an issue if we have 1 small guy on each line. So 4 would be the max:

Caufield Suzuki Slaf
Farrell
Dach Gurianov
RHP Dubois/Dvo Anderson
Gallagher Evan's Ylonen
Slaf: not ready at all for first line duties. Better keep Anderson up there
Farrell: might need few months even a season at AHL level
Gurianov: the way he is playing since the last half dozen games is telling me that he belongs to AHL or KHL
Amd you can bet your shirt that one of Armia, Hoffman will still be around, maybe Dvorak too.

Oh well, ego is ego.

MSL’s reaction is that of a rookie coach. He’ll learn. He’ll learn that there is one boss around and it’s not him.
MSL should know by now that Gorton and Hughes want to finish as low as possible in the standings.
 

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Slaf: not ready at all for first line duties. Better keep Anderson up there
Farrell: might need few months even a season at AHL level
Gurianov: the way he is playing since the last half dozen games is telling me that he belongs to AHL or KHL
Amd you can bet your shirt that one of Armia, Hoffman will still be around, maybe Dvorak too.

- Slaf's big body may be a good fit with Caufield and Suzuki. Only one way to find out. Anderson never worked long term, and Anderson has clicked with RHP.
-Farrell definitely might need time in the AHL. Maybe Heineman is ready, or maybe it is one of Armia or Hoffman that still have a spot.
- Gurianov needs to play with the right players. Still too early to know if he sticks. he's not a play driver and needs to play with a play driver.
- I'd give the young guys a shot before vets like Hoffman and Armia. The vets can sit in the pressbox, be sent to the AHL or be traded.
 
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Oh well, ego is ego.

MSL’s reaction is that of a rookie coach. He’ll learn. He’ll learn that there is one boss around and it’s not him.
Yeah Marty needs to chill and enjoy himself for at least one more season. His third full season is where he needs to earn his new contract. But given his temperment that isn't happening. His attributes make him a terrible tank coach. :laugh:
 
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Oh well, ego is ego.

MSL’s reaction is that of a rookie coach. He’ll learn. He’ll learn that there is one boss around and it’s not him.
He was probably more pissed at the question asked than at the whole situation.

I doubt HuGo let him know that Farrell was supposed to be in the lineup at the last second.

It was probably a demand when he signed the contract.
 
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Oh well, ego is ego.

MSL’s reaction is that of a rookie coach. He’ll learn. He’ll learn that there is one boss around and it’s not him.

I doubt St. Louis is in the mind state of tolerating that kind of "I'm the boss so obey" bullshit for very long.
 
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This will be a natural occurrence as we gain depth. One of the reasons we've rushed players was a direct result of the lack of organizational depth. We will certainly see a tougher road to graduation. This in turn should pay off with better interchangeability when needed.

Agreed. Exactly what is on my mind as well. It's about time too!
 

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He was probably more pissed at the question asked than at the whole situation.

I doubt HuGo let him know that Farrell was supposed to be in the lineup at the last second.

It was probably a demand when he signed the contract.
Yeah the LaPresse best writer’s question was baveuse en tabarnac (Is Hughes making the lineups?).

I doubt St. Louis is in the mind state of tolerating that kind of "I'm the boss so obey" bullshit for very long.
It’s the NHL. Every coach has had to live with that.
 

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