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Prospect Info: Sean Farrell, C/LW, 124th Overall

SuzukiSZN said:
Caufield had 30 goals in 31 games in his 2nd year in the NCAA

But yeah Farrell is pretty dominant this year and the eye test approve of that.
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Farrell is more well-rounded - he is a better playmaker and also better defensively than Caufield.
 
BaseballCoach said:
Farrell is more well-rounded - he is a better playmaker and also better defensively than Caufield.
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At the NHL level, Farrell won't be that much better defensively over Caufield. They will hold their own wherever then can.

Elite level prospects has Farrell at 174 lbs. Is that an old weight or is it up to date?

Caufield and Farrell are the two exceptions you make as small forwards in the mix. I say we steer clear of adding pieces to our core that are on the smaller size. If Michkov is drafted, I might try to use Farrell in the Dubois package.
 
Habs Halifax said:
At the NHL level, Farrell won't be that much better defensively over Caufield. They will hold their own wherever then can.

Elite level prospects has Farrell at 174 lbs. Is that an old weight or is it up to date?

Caufield and Farrell are the two exceptions you make as small forwards in the mix. I say we steer clear of adding pieces to our core that are on the smaller size. If Michkov is drafted, I might try to use Farrell in the Dubois package.
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I totally disagree with the bolded part. Farrell (and Roy) are very good defensive players.

College Hockey News has Farrell at 175 lbs. He is not big but considerably larger than Caufield, who is more like 5'3" in reality.
 
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BaseballCoach said:
I totally disagree with the bolded part. Farrell (and Roy) are very good defensive players.

College Hockey News has Farrell at 175 lbs. He is not big but considerably larger than Caufield, who is more like 5'3" in reality.
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Usually, you got to have size/strength/skating to be good defensive players. Farrell will be outmuscled at the NHL level. I like him but I'm not expecting a 200' winger like Lehkonen. He's going to hold his own if he understands NHL systems and time/space but I don't see the value in trying to peg him as someone much better than Caufield in the D zone.
 
Habs Halifax said:
Usually, you got to have size/strength/skating to be good defensive players. Farrell will be outmuscled at the NHL level. I like him but I'm not expecting a 200' winger like Lehkonen. He's going to hold his own if he understands NHL systems and time/space but I don't see the value in trying to peg him as someone much better than Caufield in the D zone.
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Caufield is not very good defensively, so if Farrell is even just a bit above average, that is a huge gap.
 
Habs Halifax said:
At the NHL level, Farrell won't be that much better defensively over Caufield. They will hold their own wherever then can.

Elite level prospects has Farrell at 174 lbs. Is that an old weight or is it up to date?

Caufield and Farrell are the two exceptions you make as small forwards in the mix. I say we steer clear of adding pieces to our core that are on the smaller size. If Michkov is drafted, I might try to use Farrell in the Dubois package.
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How many times have you watched Farrel?
 
Mrb1p said:
How many times have you watched Farrel?
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A fair amount. My point is his role in the NCAA may change in the AHL/NHL. I don't think he will be a defensive type in the NHL. He will hold his own no doubt and yeah, I know his NCAA usage bud.

I see more of his WJC and Olympics sample as what you will see in the NHL.
 
Habs Halifax said:
A fair amount. My point is his role in the NCAA may change in the AHL/NHL. I don't think he will be a defensive type in the NHL. He will hold his own no doubt and yeah, I know his NCAA usage bud.

I see more of his WJC and Olympics sample as what you will see in the NHL.
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He was also excellent defensively internationally. Theres plenty of excellent defensive sub 6' players. Marchand, Gourde, Cirelli, Point. At worst he would be like Byron as a decent ES player and a PK weapon.
 
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Habs Halifax said:
Usually, you got to have size/strength/skating to be good defensive players. Farrell will be outmuscled at the NHL level. I like him but I'm not expecting a 200' winger like Lehkonen. He's going to hold his own if he understands NHL systems and time/space but I don't see the value in trying to peg him as someone much better than Caufield in the D zone.
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mitch marner is one of the best defensive forwards in the league and i don’t think anyone would accuse him of being particularly big and strong
 
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David Suzuki said:
mitch marner is one of the best defensive forwards in the league and i don’t think anyone would accuse him of being particularly big and strong
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There's still this hive mind that you have to be big and strong and deliver hard bodychecks to be good defensively, but that simply isn't the case anymore in the faster and more skilled league that we're in. Smart positioning, anticipation, awareness of your teammates' positionning, risk assessment when it comes to body checking/sliding/poke checking, etc. are all more important factors than being physical and strong.
 
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David Suzuki said:
mitch marner is one of the best defensive forwards in the league and i don’t think anyone would accuse him of being particularly big and strong
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Just cause you find an exception, it don't make it the general rule. Remember when we thought KK would mature into a Barkov and Kopitar when he fills into his frame?

I know Farrell's game and he's rated high with me. I just don't think he will be used the same at the NHL. Maybe but we can only guess. I don't think he will suck in his own end but some will assume that now cause I'm saying he will hold his own but it won't be his personal strength. Do we think he becomes a Lehkonen type?
 
BaseballCoach said:
Farrell is more well-rounded - he is a better playmaker and also better defensively than Caufield.
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Caufield is elite, Farrell won’t be as good as him. Caufield is a way better playmaker people give him credit for also.

The question was if someone ever scored near a goal a game in the NCAA not who’s better defensively.
 
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SuzukiSZN said:
Caufield is elite, Farrell won’t be as good as him. Caufield is a better playmaker people give him credit for also.

The question was who scored near a goal a game in the NCAA not who’s better defensively.
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Caufield stopped getting assists when Suzuki stopped scoring. When Suzuki isn’t scoring, he has no one to finish any play he can create - not to mention that the gameplan is clearly to get the puck to Caufield to finish plays because that’s what he’s best at.

But yes, Caufield is an excellent playmaker as well. If the Habs had someone like Bedard on his line, it would be readily apparent.

Farrell is a better playmaker than Cole, but it’s not a huge gap, it’s just a tool he uses more often in comparison.

Farrell is my favourite prospect right now, excellent upside.
 
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JGRB said:
Caufield stopped getting assists when Suzuki stopped scoring. When Suzuki isn’t scoring, he has no one to finish any play he can create - not to mention that the gameplan is clearly to get the puck to Caufield to finish plays because that’s what he’s best at.

But yes, Caufield is an excellent playmaker as well. If the Habs had someone like Bedard on his line, it would be readily apparent.

Farrell is a better playmaker than Cole, but it’s not a huge gap, it’s just a tool he uses more often in comparison.

Farrell is my favourite prospect right now, excellent upside.
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Yes Farrell is my favorite prospect too, he’s gonna be excellent and i’m very excited for him.

I just don’t really know why that poster tried to compare Caufield and Farrell lol all i did was responding to someone who wanted to know if someone ever scored near a goal a game in the NCAA which Caufield did.
 
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