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Nihiliste

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Is this for real? This is nothing, he jumps around him…

It was interference, but it was the subtle well executed kind you can get away with in the playoffs. I remember Makar got called for a minor pick like this in the playoffs in the past though
 

Lou Sassole

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This makes it look like you don’t understand the game. Gudas was attempting to hit the puck carrier and the puck carrier skated through him…there should be no issue whatsoever on that. Not sure what the Montour hit was…was that the one with Maurice going crazy and looking like an idiot? The elbow to the back of the head?

I have no horse in this race, which makes it possible to be unbiased. Anyone complaining about the refs on Florida side are simply biased.
You still can't throw your shoulder into someone's face. I've seen Oshie throw plenty of reverse hits, when he makes contact with the face/head, it's a call.
 
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Boris Zubov

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Right, 2018 the Flower was pretty solid. Two years ago against the Habs, he was just awful.

Of course, that was mostly on DeBoer for playing the small goalie against a team that regularly struggled to score against big goalies and Lehner was perfectly healthy and rested. One of the single dumbest coaching moves that I have seen in the NHL.
At least it paid off for most of Game 3 ....
 
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Dr Beinfest

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Regarding anyone saying a ref missed penalty “caused a goal,” this is typically a weak sauce argument unless you observe these occurring in direct sequence (like Gudas holding the stick against Toronto).

That doesn’t mean it’s not incredibly frustrating as a fan to watch.
 

jgs

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This makes it look like you don’t understand the game. Gudas was attempting to hit the puck carrier and the puck carrier skated through him…there should be no issue whatsoever on that. Not sure what the Montour hit was…was that the one with Maurice going crazy and looking like an idiot? The elbow to the back of the head?

I have no horse in this race, which makes it possible to be unbiased. Anyone complaining about the refs on Florida side are simply biased.
If you look at my logo, you would also realize I don't have no horse in this game either. But to me it doesn't matter what team, call it consistently. What happens a lot is, refs let things go and then all of sudden, plays that they let go all of a sudden is a penalty.
 
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HanSolo

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Yeah the other ones didn’t turn a routine 3 on 3 into a scoring chance?
Didn't realize the metric for penalties was what happened after the missed call was missed.

In any case, looks like a sidestep. Not much of an interference. Yeah he got the stick but it's not like he slashed it out of his hands. A little more grip in Verhaege's mitt and there's nothing to discuss.
 

Toby91ca

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He jumps through him and takes his stick so Verhaeghe can’t make a play on the puck
If that was called interference it would likely be the biggest joke of a call in the playoffs if of all time…seriously
 

EverTheCynic

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I see the hockey being played fo sho. Plenty just like that in many plays.

This, I get. It does suck when you think it’s happening, and maybe it is. As a Vegas fan, I can’t see it and as a Panthers fan it’s all you see.

It’s a long series.
I'm not so sure about that. Vegas is clearly the best team in the league this year.

Could be a short series
 

FlaPanthers11

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You were on the right side of it for 2.5 rounds. If the Panthers gameplan was ‘hope the refs call it in our favor’, their names dont belong on the cup.
We were last round for sure. Feel for Carolina. Boston, no. And Toronto nothing really other than the series clincher
 

felixhockey

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Tkachuk was going at Hill’s head with his stick.

Hill responded accurately.

If one penalty comes out of Tkachuk getting silly, two happen, and Vegas still gets the PP.
How about a clear head hit on gudas? Which is a game and means that barbashev isn't there to assist a future goal.
 

Nihiliste

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You still can't throw your shoulder into someone's face. I've seen Oshie throw plenty of reverse hits, when he makes contact with the face/head, it's a call.

Gudas just picked the wrong guy there, Barbashev is a tank
 

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I think folks are missing what's going on here really. The home ice advantage is big as Karlsson is the key imo. He's removed any threat the Barkov line poses because Cassidy can just match him against Barkov whenever he wants.

Tkachuck's line needs to step it up in that situation on the road to fill in. This goes back to FLA and that won't always be the case. Barkov's line will be more noticeable there most likely.

Karlsson deserves a huge amount of credit imo.
 
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FlaPanthers11

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Didn't realize the metric for penalties was what happened after the missed call was missed.

In any case, looks like a sidestep. Not much of an interference. Yeah he got the stick but it's not like he slashed it out of his hands. A little more grip in Verhaege's mitt and there's nothing to discuss.
The Panthers got called for that exact penalty last game. They also got 4 minutes for something much softer than what Hill did. They’ve also gotten two away from the puck calls this game that were softer than this.

Refs tend to call things when they lead to scoring chances or take them away so yes that is a factor. And this turned the play into a 3 on 2 immediately so it wasn’t hard to tell what the impact of the pick was
 
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Turin

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Source : Trust me bro
You trust public data uncritically, not much of a leap to trust HFBoard posts. If public data wasn't massively flawed teams wouldn't need to spend millions on their own.
 
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