Blue Jays Discussion: Save some runs for the other games, guys. (Jays score team record 28 runs in Friday night drubbing of Red Sox. Yes, that says 28. In one game)

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TORONTO — Thanks to a pair of savvy one-year deals and the career years that followed for Marcus Semien and Robbie Ray, the Toronto Blue Jays are in an enviable spot heading into the 2022 MLB Draft.

When Sunday’s first round starts, the Jays and third-year scouting director Shane Farrell will have pick Nos. 23, 60, 77 and 78 — the latter two being the compensation picks the club received for Semien and Ray walking — to play with, allowing them to start restocking a farm system that’s been thinned out by trades and graduations.

While normally the Major League Baseball draft is an exercise in projection and extreme patience, there’s also a now element for the Jays and GM Ross Atkins.

With the MLB trade deadline set for Aug. 2, this draft haul is going to give the Blue Jays more leeway when it comes to packaging up prospects currently in the system for immediate help.

“All indications from preliminary discussions are that we have the depth and talent to be in play throughout the potential trade market,” Atkins said of initial trade talks. “Of course, we need to remain disciplined as we weigh those trade opportunities against how strongly we feel about the players in our system.”

At the top of the prospect pipeline sit a potential cornerstone catcher in Gabriel Moreno, a left side infielder with plenty of power — and strikeouts — in Orelvis Martinez and an emerging left-hander in Ricky Tiedemann, who Farrell and the Jays stole at pick No. 91 in last year’s draft.

Some intriguing names beyond that top trio include 2018 first-round pick Jordan Groshans, breakout outfielder Gabriel Martinez and right-handers Yosver Zulueta, Nick Frasso, Irv Carter, Sem Robberse and Dahian Santos.

Depending on the magnitude of the trade, teams often identify lower level names that may not appear on the surface to be obvious trade chips.

“We feel very good about the depth of our system, with a strong group of prospects whose names may be more recognizable,” Atkins said. “At the same time, we are excited about a number of development stories this year among lesser known prospects.”
 
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I think if the Nationals are smart about maximizing value out of their once-in-a-generation athlete, we're one of the best options.

You build something like Lourdes + Moreno + Orelvis + Groshans, with Lourdes (age doesnt fit their window) and Moreno (if they prefer Ruiz) being seen as flip candidates. You hope the sheer quantity of value beats out the Yankees offer but in the end if you have to give up Tiedemann, you do it.
 
Blue Jays issues are not coaching. they have no identity. They dont know what they are trying to achieve as a collective unit. The Red Sox, Yankees are veteran lead teams. they grind out games and see lots of pitches. they get to you eventually. They have an identity. Jays are just going up there and swinging away like my mens softball league. Blue jays need an old vet manager like Tommy Lasorda or Tony La Russa lol
 
Blue Jays issues are not coaching. they have no identity. They dont know what they are trying to achieve as a collective unit. The Red Sox, Yankees are veteran lead teams. they grind out games and see lots of pitches. they get to you eventually. They have an identity. Jays are just going up there and swinging away like my mens softball league. Blue jays need an old vet manager like Tommy Lasorda or Tony La Russa lol

Sox are barely ahead of the Jays in pitches per PA (3.86 v 3.84). They also chase and whiff more than the Jays
 
I think if the Nationals are smart about maximizing value out of their once-in-a-generation athlete, we're one of the best options.

You build something like Lourdes + Moreno + Orelvis + Groshans, with Lourdes (age doesnt fit their window) and Moreno (if they prefer Ruiz) being seen as flip candidates. You hope the sheer quantity of value beats out the Yankees offer but in the end if you have to give up Tiedemann, you do it.

I'm not even sure the Yankees would be in on him. They have their own mega-contract to dish out to their soon to be AL MVP. If this was Papa George's Yankees, then maybe...
 
The Dodgers, Yankees, and Mets could afford Soto financially. The Yankees are cheap now and that type of big '"f*** you look how big my dong is" move is right up Uncle Steve's alley, but the Mets likely don't have the prospects required to put together a package and no shot the Nats trade him in division.

The Dodgers are still the one that makes the most sense to me. Tampa is another I've seen thrown around but I think people are overestimate how much money they throw around after the Franco extension.
 
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Funny thing in that sequence for Boston; Devers threw away a routine play that would have meant Hicks never even comes to the plate.

Baseball is a cruel mistress. Apparently even more so to Chris Sale.

Also Sale is a much, much tougher dude that I am. That ball was 106 coming off the bat and it hit him so hard it managed to make it all the way into right field after contact. Dude shook that off like it was nothing.
 
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We don't even know if Soto is going anywhere. The Nats were apparently circling back with another offer after yesterday's got shot down. That was was supposed to be the true line in the sand and they wish actively look to trade him after.

I'm sure things will quiet down for the break since Soto is in the derby and actual all star game. Probably won't hear more until it's over.
 
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