Sarnia Sting 2024 - 25 Season Thread, Part I

[JAMER]

I'm not mad we lost because I expected it. But I'm pissed about the rude LDN fans in our area we had to deal with all game. I just hope when our fans go to LDN that there respectful.

 

[StingUpdates]

Simply two teams at totally different stages. Their top guys physically are just on a different level. Boys battled & hung in there but looked a bit overwhelmed at times.

That 4th goal was an absolute killer too. Got it to 3-2 & immediately gave it right back. Took the wind out of their sails.

Rough day for a few guys, especially Bodin. Learning lesson for them.

Brightside. Surzycia was awesome. Karimov with a nasty assist on 12s goal. Love to see Bridgwater get his 1st. And I'm happy to see them stick with it. LDN was trying to bully them all day & they kept fighting.

This is gonna be a doozy of a road trip though. Kitchener Oshawa Brampton this week. Buckle up for some rough nights.

 

[JAMER]

PP killed us today to 0/6. PP has declined these last 2 games.

 

[StingUpdates]

I'm not mad we lost because I expected it. But I'm pissed about the rude LDN fans in our area we had to deal with all game. I just hope when our fans go to LDN that there respectful.

Unfortunately got those fans in every fan base..they were respectful in mine. Outside all that damn cheering smh... (Joking lol)

PP killed us today to 0/6. PP has declined these last 2 games.

LDN has an impressive PK. Sometimes u gotta tip the cap. So aggressive. Cowan Barkey O'Rielly make u hesitant to take risks too. But definitely needed them to cash in to get a point today.

 

[JAMER]

Simply two teams at totally different stages. Their top guys physically are just on a different level. Boys battled & hung in there but looked a bit overwhelmed at times.

That 4th goal was an absolute killer too. Got it to 3-2 & immediately gave it right back. Took the wind out of their sails.

Rough day for a few guys, especially Bodin. Learning lesson for them.

Brightside. Surzycia was awesome. Karimov with a nasty assist on 12s goal. Love to see Bridgwater get his 1st. And I'm happy to see them stick with it. LDN was trying to bully them all day & they kept fighting.

This is gonna be a doozy of a road trip though. Kitchener Oshawa Brampton this week. Buckle up for some rough nights.

Kitchener has a younger team like us so we'll see. That game will probably come down to who makes the least mistakes. Oshawa is really good on paper but haven't been able to figure it out yet. Brampton will most likely be a blow out.

 

[StingUpdates]

Kitchener has a younger team like us so we'll see. That game will probably come down to who makes the least mistakes. Oshawa is really good on paper but haven't been able to figure it out yet. Brampton will most likely be a blow out.

Yep. Issue is I think 17/81 won't be available in Kitchener. They aren't losing anyone. But of all the games that's definitely the one they have the best shot in.

Oshawa got Ritchie back and absolutely smoked Kingston..without 13 I'm feeling that game is also a blowout. Martone is gonna have 25 points lmaoo.

 

[stingwagoner]

Brampton game will feel like a home game as sting fans may outnumber bramptons lol

Never know what teams show up so far this sting team has not quit for most part.
Difference today was our 16/17 year olds
little shy from some hits and pulled up in our end a few too mant times.
I thought Bodin, omeri weren't quick enough for London's forwards.
Going to be a tough week. I'd hope 2 points would b2 a great week.

 

[howler2]

I'm not mad we lost because I expected it. But I'm pissed about the rude LDN fans in our area we had to deal with all game. I just hope when our fans go to LDN that there respectful.

Rude arrogant and disrespectful in an opponent's rink. Disgusting fans in general !

 

[LDN]

Rude arrogant and disrespectful in an opponent's rink. Disgusting fans in general !

Sorry to hear this! Btw I do like what’s being built here in Sarnia. Your young team will do damage this year!

 

[Texcanuck]

Sorry to hear this! Btw I do like what’s being built here in Sarnia. Your young team will do damage this year!

Thx LDN…
Right now, your top 6 forwards and top 4 D are pretty much better than our best forward, and our best D (particularly with Fischer out). It showed today. The Sarnia kids can compete with 3/4 of the league right now, and it will only get better.
Meanwhile, I’m thinking it might be your year… again… as painful as it is to admit as a Sarnia Fan. Our years will be next one and the one after.. we hope. By then, the many bad decisions in our own end, and all the gripping the stick too tight (which I saw a lot of today) will have been learning experiences.

 

[stingwagoner]

Disagree, for top 6 and top.4 to be better then stings you'd expect a blow out but that was far from a blowout it was really 3-2 type game. The score was 5 (empty netter) but wasn't a 5-2 game at all.
Really think coaching and confidence in that coaching / our fear at times were all factors in todays result, Can't compete with top end teams if PP goes 0/6 just can't. On going concern we all have had all year when is something going to change.

 

[StingUpdates]

I don't think coaching had anything to do with today's results. That's a bigger, faster, older team. LDN bullied as at times. Won a lot of battles in the dirty areas.

I thought they'd get smoked & they had it 3-2 in the 3rd. Bodin falling asleep & leaving his man open backdoor on the 4th goal absolutely killed them. Just a backbreaker.

I am really happy with the weekend despite the results. Outplayed the top team in the east. Hung in there vs LDN. Missing our best player & captain to boot.

This yr is all about progress and development. Seeing a lot of it so far. If what they've shown is them they'll be right in the thick of it for the 5/6 seeds, too. But as I keep saying these next 8 games could be a brutal run. If they can somehow find a way to get some points out of the 8 I'll be happy then hopefully get 13/17/81 back in the lineup + Franceschetti.

Then our 2nd half has a lot of home games & we have a much easier schedule for opponent level.

 

[StingUpdates]

Loved seeing Bridgewater finally get his first yesterday. Really showed off his great skating ability. Left that LDN player in his dust before a nice shot far side.

Good puck skills, great skating, strong offensive instincts. Wish he got some PP time & played more when we've gone to OT to really show it, but like Karimov they are taking it slow as he needs some work defensively.

I think he's taken good strides though. Thought of all their rookies yesterday, Bodin included, Bridgewater was there best. Didn't shy away from hits. Used his skating. Made the right decisions. Think hes one of the guys who's stepped up so far without Fischer. Remain a big fan of his upside.

 

[stingwagoner]

Bodin has been made to fill a role he cannot fill, that's coaching.
Is all the losses coaching no, but stuff like this affects the outcome more than not.
PP needs total overhaul unit.
Starting with units.

 

[Ferda11]

Sting in for a rough stretch here. With the Fischer injury and losing half of our offense in Edwards and Di Iorio to u-17's, I'm doubting we see the win column very often the next few weeks. PP is a complete lost cause at this point and it won't get any better with Bodin on it. Classic Letang trying to force something that will not work. You have Young, Barr, Hurt and Bridgewater who should all be on the ice during a PP over Bodin. I don't get what he see's here? Sting have been lucky to have the points they have despite the lack of PP success. This early season success in the standings isn't sustainable with a PP clicking barley over 10% after 14 games. Without those 4 OT/SO charity points we are under .500 at 6-7 so not as pretty as it appears. PP needs to wake up or this team is going to fall down the standings very quick. PK also sliding back down to a more earthly percentage which doesn't help.

 

[StingUpdates]

Sting in for a rough stretch here. With the Fischer injury and losing half of our offense in Edwards and Di Iorio to u-17's, I'm doubting we see the win column very often the next few weeks. PP is a complete lost cause at this point and it won't get any better with Bodin on it. Classic Letang trying to force something that will not work. You have Young, Barr, Hurt and Bridgewater who should all be on the ice during a PP over Bodin. I don't get what he see's here? Sting have been lucky to have the points they have despite the lack of PP success. This early season success in the standings isn't sustainable with a PP clicking barley over 10% after 14 games. Without those 4 OT/SO charity points we are under .500 at 6-7 so not as pretty as it appears. PP needs to wake up or this team is going to fall down the standings very quick. PK also sliding back down to a more earthly percentage which doesn't help.

Not sure I agree with saying the PP is a lost cause. They started 1/34 (2% lol) but in the last 7 games it's 8/34 (23.5%)

It's looked drastically better. Has scored in all of those 7 games. It's definitely gonna take a hit with Fischer, Di Iorio & Edwards gone though. They all play a big role on it.

Bodin definitely shouldn't be on the PP. Should be another F, or Bridgwater since Young is running PP1 & Barr is on PP2.

Yah I'm not holding my breath for more than 1or2 wins out of these next 8. It's our annual November slide because of guys being out the lineup lol. Though KIT OSH BRMP NIA ER LDN SAG is an absolute gauntlet even if all 3 played.

 

[NBBFan]

Am I only one who is not overly concerned with missing Di Iorio and Edwards? I’m more concerned with Fischer missing this road swing. Di Iorio has only been effective on the PP with 7 of his 9 total points coming on it. You put anyone in that role with that ice time and open ice and they could/would do the same. Both Filak and Kostuch have better FO win % than he does and they are wingers. Wainwright is a better Centre than both of them in my opinion. Di Iorio is a good player no doubt and will have a great career but I don’t sing his praises like a lot of you around here. He’s 16 and has a lot to learn. Letang is damn well making sure he is exposed to everything.

Edward’s with a similar “ok” FO %, which is sub 50%. Sure he has 11 points, but again, like Di Iorio, he plays 30 min a game and 4 of those points came on the PP. That said, I think he’s a bigger loss then Di Iorio.

I think the boys will step up just fine and doubt their losses (which surely be many over this stretch) will be attributed back to simply not having those 3 in the line up.

If anything it will give others a chance to prove they deserve more ice time and opportunity and perhaps will give us some more grit going into this road trip.

 

[StingUpdates]

Am I only one who is not overly concerned with missing Di Iorio and Edwards? I’m more concerned with Fischer missing this road swing. Di Iorio has only been effective on the PP with 7 of his 9 total points coming on it. You put anyone in that role with that ice time and open ice and they could/would do the same. Both Filak and Kostuch have better FO win % than he does and they are wingers. Wainwright is a better Centre than both of them in my opinion. Di Iorio is a good player no doubt and will have a great career but I don’t sing his praises like a lot of you around here. He’s 16 and has a lot to learn. Letang is damn well making sure he is exposed to everything.

Edward’s with a similar “ok” FO %, which is sub 50%. Sure he has 11 points, but again, like Di Iorio, he plays 30 min a game and 4 of those points came on the PP. That said, I think he’s a bigger loss then Di Iorio.

I think the boys will step up just fine and doubt their losses (which surely be many over this stretch) will be attributed back to simply not having those 3 in the line up.

If anything it will give others a chance to prove they deserve more ice time and opportunity and perhaps will give us some more grit going into this road trip.

Yah, im the opposite. This team has scored 43 goals this year. Edwards & Di Iorio have accounted for 9 of them (20% of the teams goals).. They are the 2nd line C & the 3rd line C. Now they likely move Filak to 2C & the 3C is someone who isn't a natural C or Chamberlain. Di Iorio is probably the 2nd, or 3rd best defensive F on the team. Edwards isn't as strong defensively, but he still plays the right spots & supports his D well in his own zone which is critical.

They both also play a great deal of PK & it's been the teams best strength. So now they are down 3 good PKers, 1D, 2C.

Now you go from 3 balanced, solid lines + Karimov line 4, to likely the top 9 being something like

Kostuch-Wainwright-Moses
Brown-Filak-Johnston
Karimov-Chamberlain-Doucette
Luecke-Sim-XXX.

Sure better opportunity for 18, 19, but the depth is much worse especially down the middle. Now guys who haven't played PK will have too & the PP gets thrown into the blender when it's finally found it's groove.

 

[NBBFan]

20% of goals is because of their ice time, plain and simple in my opinion. I don’t want to take anything away from them, but naturally you would expect the 2 players with the highest offensive minutes played (by a long shot) per game to put up the most points. Disagree with Di Iorio defensively. He has the worst +/- on the team.

During Di Iorio and Edwards absence you need to roll with your top 3 lines steady, using the 4th in a limited capacity. Rotate through.

The PP is already terrible (though has improved some the past week, minus last game). Changes should have been made there a long time ago. Letang’s coaching is like a dog chasing its tail.

Just my opinion.

 

[stingwagoner]

StingUpdates not sure your thinking about things. Clouded as Letang is with those lines.

Moses give it up he is 3rd line let's stop pretending he is 1st line guy.

C Wainwright doucette karimov
C Filak brown johnston
C Kostuch MOSES Franchesschetti
C Chamberlain Leuke XXXXx

Let's quit pumping Edward's tires , he is back to reality for pts for him, never really created anything just banged in rebounds which is awesome and will be a stud down the line here but let's give it time. Edwards on 1st pp is confusing he doesn't deserve at this point. believe me I want him to be there and he is great player and he is but let's not force things with him slow it down.
let's help pp 1 and put a vet like Wainwright there. DI IORIO no question is pp1 but Edward's needs to speed his passes and plays just isn't there yet can get pp experience on pp2, young can anchor pp2 as well of we are worried about too much youth on same pp but clearly Letang or jeffery isn't with current pps
BARR to pp1 those are my tweaks that would help pp1 right away Wainwright and Doucette like I've been saying all year. Can't have 2x16 year olds on 1st pp and expect to have more than a 8-10% pp in this league and we have less than that! And it hurts our chances game un game out all year.

 

[frontsfan67]

Let's quit pumping Edward's, he is back to reality for pts for him, never really created anything just banged in rebounds

I know a couple guys in the nhl that currently do that exact thing on the oilers and rangers and they both scored a lot of goals and get paid a lot of money to do so.

If it was this easy for everyone- why doesn’t everyone do it?

 

[StingUpdates]

Outside Owen Sound this is probably the best chance they got for a W as Kitchener is young. But they've been playing some unbelievable hockey. Believe on a 10or11 game point streak.

Intrigued to see the new lines assuming 17/81 are gone. Also curious who starts in net. Feeling Maillet might.

 

[stingwagoner]

I know a couple guys in the nhl that currently do that exact thing on the oilers and rangers and they both scored a lot of goals and get paid a lot of money to do so.

If it was this easy for everyone- why doesn’t everyone do it?

Maybe they don't get the chances Edward's does. You think kostuch couldn't do what Edward's does on PP1 or Karimov for that matter. Hahaha I bet they could do just as good if not better however are not getting chances Edward's gets.
Hence my point, let's slow it down on Edward's and let things develop how they will and don't force things.

 

[stingwagoner]

Outside Owen Sound this is probably the best chance they got for a W as Kitchener is young. But they've been playing some unbelievable hockey. Believe on a 10or11 game point streak.

Intrigued to see the new lines assuming 17/81 are gone. Also curious who starts in net. Feeling Maillet might.

Mailett will be in!

 

[Texcanuck]

Maybe they don't get the chances Edward's does. You think kostuch couldn't do what Edward's does on PP1 or Karimov for that matter. Hahaha I bet they could do just as good if not better however are not getting chances Edward's gets.
Hence my point, let's slow it down on Edward's and let things develop how they will and don't force things.

Gotta have the brains to be in the right place…