Value of: Samuel Girard

[Perratrooper]

Colorado lacks forward depth in a big way and currently are icing a d-core of Makar, Byram, Girard, E. Johnson, Murray and J. Johnson, with Toews on IR. On top of that, the Avs also have J. Barron, Helleson and Behrens as potential future NHL players. Because of these reasons, Girard becomes expendable.

Girard currently has 6 years left at $5m per and provides great pick moving, offensive prowess and average defensive play. All in all I would say he’s a good #3 defenseman and at his best plays as a #2.

The Avs needs are at center, however if the right prospects were offered that could allow Sakic to use in some combination to go after a Hertl or Eichel I think it would benefit the team substantially.

So what is your best offer for Girard?

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[Gentle Man]

Vatrano

 

[Empoleon8771]

Girard, Compher, Newhook and Barron to Buffalo for Eichel at $8.5 million

I think the issue here is that Buffalo isn't willing to retain, but if they would retain, I think this deal would make a ton of sense for both sides.

 

[Perratrooper]

Girard, Compher, Newhook and Barron to Buffalo for Eichel at $8.5 million

I think the issue here is that Buffalo isn't willing to retain, but if they would retain, I think this deal would make a ton of sense for both sides.

I think Colorado does that, but I’m not sure Buffalo does. Personally I would rather give a 2023 first over Barron, but the bigger issue is the salary retention.

 

[Perratrooper]

Vatrano

Strange way of spelling Lundell

 

[TheRarestDangles]

Does anyone think Girard and Hertl have similar value? What would it take from both sides to make that happen?

 

[Lockin17]

Colorado lacks forward depth in a big way and currently are icing a d-core of Makar, Byram, Girard, E. Johnson, Murray and J. Johnson, with Toews on IR. On top of that, the Avs also have J. Barron, Helleson and Behrens as potential future NHL players. Because of these reasons, Girard becomes expendable.

Girard currently has 6 years left at $5m per and provides great pick moving, offensive prowess and average defensive play. All in all I would say he’s a good #3 defenseman and at his best plays as a #2.

The Avs needs are at center, however if the right prospects were offered that could allow Sakic to use in some combination to go after a Hertl or Eichel I think it would benefit the team substantially.

So what is your best offer for Girard?

About Girard + 2nd for Caufield

 

[Perratrooper]

Does anyone think Girard and Hertl have similar value? What would it take from both sides to make that happen?

If it was a sign and trade where SJ retains on the remaining contract I think so, but SJ already has a bunch of puck moving defenseman. Don’t know if Girard is a great fit. Perhaps a Sharks fan could elaborate.

 

[Newusername]

About Girard + 2nd for Caufield

Avs wouldn’t be the ones adding

 

[Perratrooper]

About Girard + 2nd for Caufield

I don’t think Colorado would be adding a second onto that and even still, unless Caufield does it for another team in acquiring a center man I don’t think the Avs pull the trigger.

 

[Perennial]

To Vancouver: Girard

To Colorado: Miller


Vancouver get a top 4 RD signed long term

Colorado add a 1st line calibre forward to their top 6

 

[Goulet17]

The problem for Colorado is that Girard's contract is too good to give away. They would not be trading him for a pending UFA or a player only under contract for another season. It would have to be a long term piece coming back (meaning young with several years of RFA status or under a long term deal).

 

[BonMorrison]

Nylander?

Leafs are gonna need a young top 4 once Rielly walks and this would fix the Avs depth scoring a bit. Leafs depth scoring might take an L though but maybe a base to think about with other moving pieces?

 

[Groo]

Does anyone think Girard and Hertl have similar value? What would it take from both sides to make that happen?

No no hell no they don't

 

[Groo]

If it was a sign and trade where SJ retains on the remaining contract I think so, but SJ already has a bunch of puck moving defenseman. Don’t know if Girard is a great fit. Perhaps a Sharks fan could elaborate.

We need our #1 center. The Sharks have little need for another undersized D man who isn't all the good in his own end. And no they aren't even close in value

 

[VijayPatel11]

To Vancouver: Girard

To Colorado: Miller


Vancouver get a top 4 RD signed long term

Colorado add a 1st line calibre forward to their top 6

girard is an LD

 

[BonMorrison]

girard is an LD

He’s spent most of his career playing RD but I think he’s back on the left this year.

 

[Perratrooper]

We need our #1 center. The Sharks have little need for another undersized D man who isn't all the good in his own end. And no they aren't even close in value

Hasn’t it been rumored that Hertl doesn’t want to re-sign in SJ? You can say what you want, but I don’t believe many players who are pending UFAs carry the same value as a 23 year old top 3 defenseman signed long term.

 

[Perratrooper]

Nylander?

Leafs are gonna need a young top 4 once Rielly walks and this would fix the Avs depth scoring a bit. Leafs depth scoring might take an L though but maybe a base to think about with other moving pieces?

I think if Colorado is going to trade him for a forward it would be for a center. There’s a few other reasons (cap hit, term, age) why I believe Girard is more valuable, but as a base it’s possible.

 

[Perratrooper]

To Vancouver: Girard

To Colorado: Miller


Vancouver get a top 4 RD signed long term

Colorado add a 1st line calibre forward to their top 6

The length of contracts plays in big time here. Vancouver would have to add imo.

 

[Groo]

Hasn’t it been rumored that Hertl doesn’t want to re-sign in SJ? You can say what you want, but I don’t believe many players who are pending UFAs carry the same value as a 23 year old top 3 defenseman signed long term.

That's on you. We have to face Vegas even more than you so no. We value Herlt as a 1C. And rightfully so. Try Calgary with Monahan . Maybe they're hurting for an undersized Dman

 

[Perratrooper]

That's on you. We have to face Vegas even more than you so no. We value Herlt as a 1C. And rightfully so. Try Calgary with Monahan . Maybe they're hurting for an undersized Dman

Again, I explicitly stated Girard isn’t a good fit for SJ. Only said that if we moved him for picks/prospects we could then potentially use those to get Hertl.

 

[Groo]

Again, I explicitly stated Girard isn’t a good fit for SJ. Only said that if we moved him for picks/prospects we could then potentially use those to get Hertl.

Okay.
Get back to us when you have that all worked out.

 

[Perratrooper]

Okay.
Get back to us when you have that all worked out.

That’s the point of this thread lol

 

[Rafafouille]

We need our #1 center. The Sharks have little need for another undersized D man who isn't all the good in his own end. And no they aren't even close in value

Agreed at your last sentence but the other way around. A 20+ minute a night PMD, 23.5 years old, signed until 2027 for only 5m AAV vs a UFA 28(in 2 weeks) years old center who's likely going to get 9m+ AAV. If I'm the avalanche I move anybody not named mackinnon or makar(including rantanen) before I move Girard. His contract is one of the best bargains in the NHL.