Prospect Info: Samkow Memorial HFCBJ 2024 Summer Prospect Rankings: #10

[CBJWerenski8]

Vote for the best prospect from the above poll (listed alphabetically) and post who you think should be added from the full (remaining) list below. Criteria is that they are under 25 and haven't spent the majority of a season in the NHL.

There are no set guidelines to determine how you vote. Peak potential, likelihood of NHL career, pathway to playing time, expectations based on draft status -- any/all of these can be used at your discretion. There is no right/wrong way to vote.

The list so far:
1. Cayden Lindstrom (C)
2. Denton Mateychuk (LD)
3. David Jiricek (RD)
4. Gavin Brindley (C/RW)
5. Charlie Elick (RD)
6. Jordan Dumais (RW)
7. Jet Greaves (G)
8. Stanislav Svozil (LD)
9. Sergei Ivanov (G)

Select your add from the list below:
Luke Ashton (LD)
Ole Julian Bjorgvik-Holm (LD)
Cameron Butler (RW)
Cole Clayton (RD)
Kirill Dolzhenkov (RW)
James Fisher (RW/MOD)
Tanner Henricks (RD)
Aidan Hreschuk (LD)
Oiva Keskinen (C)
Samuel Knazko (LD)
Nolan Lalonde (G)
Nikolai Makarov (LD)
Luca Marrelli (RD)
Max McCue (C)
Hunter McKown (C)
Tyler Peddle (C)
Luca Pinelli (C)
Mikael Pyyhtia (LW)
Guillaume Richard (LD)
Martin Rysavy (LW)
Melvin Strahl (G)
Andrew Strathman (LD)

Added: Evan Gardner (G)

Add votes so far (as of 18136):
Marrelli - 4
Keskinen - 4
Fisher - 3
Pinelli - 3
Richard - 2
McKown - 1
Dolzhenkov - 1
Knazko - 1

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• potential top line/pair: lindstrom, jiricek, mateychuk, dumais
• potential 2nd line/pair: brindley, elick
• potential 3rd line/pair: svozil, del bel belluz, whitelaw, pinelli, marrelli, keskinen
• bottom lineup potential: malatesta, mccue, mckown, knazko, strathmann
• fringe potential: ashton, ceulemans, pyyhtia, richard
• ahl projection: butler, henricks, hreshuck, fisher, bjorkvik-holm
• not ranked (lack of info): makarov, dolzhenkov

Just for fun, here's how I would rate them by using similar categories.

Top line/pair/goalie ceiling: Jiricek, Lindstrom
Top line/pair/goalie as likeliest outcome: -
Top line/pair/goalie floor: -

2nd line/pair/1B goalie ceiling: Brindley, Mateychuk, Svozil, Marrelli, Dolzhenkov, Dumais, Ivanov, Gardner, LDBB, Elick, Richard, McCue, Greaves
2nd line/pair/1B goalie as likeliest outcome: Jiricek, Lindstrom
2nd line/pair/1B goalie floor: -

3rd line/pair/backup G ceiling: Malatesta, Whitelaw, Pinelli, Keskinen, Makarov, McKown, Henricks
3rd line/pair/backup G as likeliest outcome: Brindley, Mateychuk, Svozil, Ivanov
3rd line/pair/backup G floor: Jiricek, Lindstrom

4th line/7D ceiling: OJBH, Fisher, Butler, Rysavy, Knazko, Peddle, Strathmann
4th line/7D as likeliest outcome: Dolzhenkov, Malatesta, Marrelli, Elick, McCue
4th line/7D floor: Brindley, Mateychuk

Fringe player ceiling: Pyyhtia
Fringe player as likeliest outcome: Richard, Gardner, Dumais, Pinelli, Whitelaw, Keskinen, Greaves, LDBB, Makarov
Fringe player floor: Dolzhenkov, Greaves, Svozil, Malatesta, Elick

AHL player ceiling: Hreschuk, Clayton
AHL player as likeliest outcome: Rysavy, Knazko, McKown, Henricks, Strathmann, OJBH, Pyyhtia, Fisher, Butler, Clayton, Peddle, Strathmann, Ceulemans
AHL player floor: Ivanov, Gardner, Dumais, McCue Marrelli, McKown, Knazko, Pinelli, Whitelaw, Pyyhtia, Keskinen, Strathmann, LDBB, Ceulemans, Makarov

ECHL floor: OJBH, Henricks, Hreschuk, Fisher, Clayton, Peddle

Not ranked due to lack of info: Ashton, Strahl, Lalonde

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[majormajor]

Just for fun, here's how I would rate them by using similar categories.

Top line/pair/goalie ceiling: Jiricek, Lindstrom
Top line/pair/goalie as likeliest outcome: -
Top line/pair/goalie floor: -

2nd line/pair/1B goalie ceiling: Brindley, Mateychuk, Svozil, Marrelli, Dolzhenkov, Dumais, Ivanov, Gardner, LDBB, Elick, Richard, McCue, Greaves
2nd line/pair/1B goalie as likeliest outcome: Jiricek, Lindstrom
2nd line/pair/1B goalie floor: -

3rd line/pair/backup G ceiling: Malatesta, Whitelaw, Pinelli, Keskinen, Makarov, McKown, Henricks
3rd line/pair/backup G as likeliest outcome: Brindley, Mateychuk, Svozil, Ivanov
3rd line/pair/backup G floor: Jiricek, Lindstrom

4th line/7D ceiling: OJBH, Fisher, Butler, Rysavy, Knazko, Peddle, Strathmann
4th line/7D as likeliest outcome: Dolzhenkov, Malatesta, Marrelli, Elick, McCue
4th line/7D floor: Brindley, Mateychuk

Fringe player ceiling: Pyyhtia
Fringe player as likeliest outcome: Richard, Gardner, Dumais, Pinelli, Whitelaw, Keskinen, Greaves, LDBB, Makarov
Fringe player floor: Dolzhenkov, Greaves, Svozil, Malatesta, Elick

AHL player ceiling: Hreschuk, Clayton
AHL player as likeliest outcome: Rysavy, Knazko, McKown, Henricks, Strathmann, OJBH, Pyyhtia, Fisher, Butler, Clayton, Peddle, Strathmann, Ceulemans
AHL player floor: Ivanov, Gardner, Dumais, McCue Marrelli, McKown, Knazko, Pinelli, Whitelaw, Pyyhtia, Keskinen, Strathmann, LDBB, Ceulemans, Makarov

ECHL floor: OJBH, Henricks, Hreschuk, Fisher, Clayton, Peddle

Not ranked due to lack of info: Ashton, Strahl, Lalonde

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I'll take the other side of that bet on Mateychuk. I think he's a top 4 with a very significant chance of being a top pair guy.

And I could easily see Cayden Lindstrom as a top liner. Is it more likely than him being a second liner? I don't know, but I think in terms of actual value to his team I think he's probably going to be on that level.

Jet Greaves just had an excellent year. He would have to get signficantly worse to end up where you have him likely to be.

 

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I'll take the other side of that bet on Mateychuk. I think he's a top 4 with a very significant chance of being a top pair guy.

And I could easily see Cayden Lindstrom as a top liner. Is it more likely than him being a second liner? I don't know, but I think in terms of actual value to his team I think he's probably going to be on that level.

Jet Greaves just had an excellent year. He would have to get signficantly worse to end up where you have him likely to be.

I think the likeliest outcome for Mateychuk is somewhere between 2nd and 3rd pair D. Someone who might end up being a 3D but through most of his prime years in the league is more likely 4D or 5D.

It's hard to choose between 1st and 2nd for Lindstrom but went with 2nd since I want to be moderate with my expectations.

Jet Greaves is currently what I would call "a fringe player/injury callup". Someone who may play a few games a year with the team but mainly sits or is playing at lower level. That's what he was for us last year, and it's also his floor if you didn't notice.

 

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Add Knazko

 

[koteka]

Just for fun, here's how I would rate them by using similar categories.

You have a far more realistic view of the prospects than many people. I am higher on some of the D like Elick. But most of the prospects will be having careers that won’t even match a fringe NHL guy like Zach Dalpe.

 

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You have a far more realistic view of the prospects than many people. I am higher on some of the D like Elick. But most of the prospects will be having careers that won’t even match a fringe NHL guy like Zach Dalpe.

Dalpe matches my definition of fringe player really well. I think Justin Peters is a good example of that for a goalie (they could also be labeled 3Gs or injury callups) and Dillon Heatherington or Taylor Fedun for defenseman.

Justin Peters (b.1986) Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

Statistics and Records of Justin Peters, a hockey player and coach from Blyth, ONT born Aug 30 1986 who was active from 2002 to 2020.

www.hockeydb.com

Taylor Fedun Hockey Stats and Profile at hockeydb.com

Statistics of Taylor Fedun, a hockey player from Edmonton, ALTA born Jun 4 1988 who was active from 2004 to 2024.

www.hockeydb.com

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Stop the count!

 

[CBJx614]

Stop the count!

Don't worry, it's just gonna light the fire under LDBBs ass next season

 

[CBJWerenski8]

Prospect Info: - Samkow Memorial HFCBJ 2024 Summer Prospect Rankings: #11

Vote for the best prospect from the above poll (listed alphabetically) and post who you think should be added from the full (remaining) list below. Criteria is that they are under 25 and haven't spent the majority of a season in the NHL. There are no set guidelines to determine how you vote...

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