Except if the line up works, you're not moving Sprong. And there's no guarantee you can afford to give that many to a Hags replacement when Guentzel is getting paid and there's Cs to pay - and if you're paying 3-4m, there's no guarantee we're moving on from Hagelin, even if you think we should.
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Except if the line up works, you're not moving Sprong. And there's no guarantee you can afford to give that many to a Hags replacement when Guentzel is getting paid and there's Cs to pay - and if you're paying 3-4m, there's no guarantee we're moving on from Hagelin, even if you think we should.
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I kind of hope they re-sign Ruhwedel to a two-year deal, at something cheap. Hopefully the extra year of security on a 1-way deal will convince him to sign near league minimum.
He just seems like the perfect player to carry as your 7th/8th guy. The kind of player you can healthy scratch half the time, then rely on to play solid bottom pairing minutes if you need to dress him.
He just seems like the perfect player to carry as your 7th/8th guy. The kind of player you can healthy scratch half the time, then rely on to play solid bottom pairing minutes if you need to dress him.
I don't think he's going to have an issue getting a 2-3 yr contract from someone who will play him regularly next season. And I don't think the money will be near the league min.
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I don't really buy this, seeing what guys like Schenn have signed for over the years. His best case scenario is probably 2 or 3 years at about $900k, I have a tough time seeing him do better than that unless he has a really good season this year.
Why would a team offer him more than that when they can get a Trotman type of guy for league minimum or a Schenn type of guy for $800k? The more I look at comparable signings, the lower I want to make Ruhwedel's best case scenario. There are a ton of guys just like Ruhwedel getting 1 or 2 year deals from $650k to $800k.
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Sprong predominantly on the backhand in his own end? That doesn't sound like that'll work too well. I can see many defensive zone turnovers and it's a benching waiting to happen.
When you have guys like Gryba, Holtzer, Jensen, G.Reinhart and Manning getting 900-975k on 2 yr deals over the past few seasons, I don't think Ruhwedel will have an issue getting that and then some. Besides, 900k is not exactly near the league minimum (650k).
Because Ruhwedel is a better player then Trotman - as well as many of those other guys mentioned. And while I'd love to be wrong (and hope I am) I don't think Ruhwedel will sign with us this summer simply due to the log jam in front of him - especially now with Riikola in the picture. We don't have a blueline like Toronto or Winnipeg where half our guys need new contracts. He like Staal will likely want to go somewhere where they have a better opportunity at playing a bigger role - and that's not going to be here unless some unlikely moves are made.
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And you predicate that opinion on what? I don't see that as a very sensible move. He's having trouble staying in the line up as is. Now granted we're not as deep on LW but he's just trying to find his game at this level. I think switching him to LW is an unnecessary burden at this point.
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One, he stated himself when drafted he is very comfortable on either side.
Two, I have watched in play in nearly 50 games. Over half of his offense is generated from the left side.
Three, any true sniper loves shooting from their off wing.
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I'm concerned about what he'll do in the defensive zone, because if he has difficulty in that regard, Sully won't play him or afford him a bigger role. You have to factor that variable into it. I'm fine with his offensive prowess, although I'd like to see him move his legs a bit more. But again I just don't see Sully doing that. Regardless of if it's fair or not.
I'd like Sprong to be given a few games with Sid, but considering how Simons playing it doesn't seem likely and I couldn't find fault if he stays there a bit.
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Based on what? Gryba got multiple paycuts after getting a 2 year deal at $1.25 million with Ottawa at age 25, he had played in 258 games by the time Edmonton gave him the 2 year deal at $900k. Reinhart was a RFA and still coasting off being a high draft pick. Manning had been used like a #5 defenseman down the stretch for the Flyers and was also a good bit younger than Ruhwedel. Holzer is an actual example, but there are a buttload of examples of guys getting less than Holzer on 1 year deals.
You might just be overvaluing Ruhwedel, his best case scenario is a team gives him a Holzer contract. More realistically, he's going to get a year or 2 at $700k a season. When you have younger and more proven guys like Claesson and Schenn getting 1 year deals at $700k-$800k, I don't know why anyone would expect Ruhwedel to get something like 3 years at $1 million or higher. The only way he would is if a team really, really likes him, and he doesn't do anything to warrant being really, really liked.
You have to find a team that views Ruhwedel like the Ducks viewed Rowney, which is way more than the player he actually is. The Ducks view Rowney as a 3rd liner, based on him getting 14:30 ATOI in the games he has been healthy for.
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As for Ruh... I can see him getting 2 at 900k from someone, I can see him getting only 650k x 1. Never know when a fringe player is going to get some fans or become unfashionable. I hope for his sake that where ever he goes next is somewhere where he's really got a shot at being number 6, that's not ideal for us but I like the guy. But if not, keeping him here works just fine too.
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I don't know if I want to take that right now and I was actually one of the few that wanted to make that move as well.
While PulpJunkFarty is bigger and has a better 2-way game, I think Sprong has him beat for the offensive tools that he has in his arsenal. Both are lacking confidence, but our boy Spronger is starting to show it a little more. The Oilers are more in trouble because of how high they selected him. They're already talking about how he could have been a mistake drafting him. Tkachuk would have been the smarter pick and he was taken a few picks later by their cross province rival, lol.
It could be worse, they could have picked Juolevi, a video game addict that derailed his career a little because of a video game, haha.
But in any case, I would be curious about Kassian in our line-up over Grant. Kassian is a bit of a tool, but he skates well and hits like a truck. Imagine the Caps series with Wilson trying to get around Oleksiak trying to murder him and then Kassian. But more importantly, Kassian can play a regular shift as wel and has underrated hands.
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Also to add about Puljujarvi...
There was ABSOLUTELY NO REASON for them to rush the kid to the NHL. He SHOULD have spent another year in Europe at least. Instead, as the OIlers love to do, they rushed him and then set him back a year or more in development.
There was ABSOLUTELY NO REASON for them to rush the kid to the NHL. He SHOULD have spent another year in Europe at least. Instead, as the OIlers love to do, they rushed him and then set him back a year or more in development.
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I think my "favourite" part of that story is them not organising language lessons for him. Complete lack of class and common sense.
For a kid they selected that high in the draft... that just seems idiotic. Value wise he would be worth millions to the franchise if they can develop him into the player they thought he could be when they drafted him. Millions upon millions. And they haven't hired a translator or English teacher for him? Seems beyond stupid.
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The bare minimum they could have done was be xenophobic like the Hawks and speak to him in a mocking Swedish accent to make him feel welcome.
But even that example, of the Oilers not doing that to make a kid like that feel welcome. This is also during McDavid's time. What separates a f***ing living legend and hall of famer like Crosby from plebs like the Oilers and their "stars" is the fact that Crosby goes out of his way to make players feel at home, far more than he needs to when the team has people to do that for him.
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